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thats the key...Our depth/role/glue/intangible guys before could step in and play...and have an impact....The gys we have on back half of lineup can step in...but arent quality contributors...and the vets we leaned on then...not old in the tooth with younger more athletic guys being snubbed....big difference yup...we lost the right balance Perkins albeut no experience up here...is a seasoned vet...with professional playing time over a number of yrs...in a number of leagues...Maybe he has really picked up the CFL game and Wilson sensed his being cut due to it

yEAH....I hoping we seeing an offensive strategy shift. With some of the bodies we have that are athletic we could really exploit a lot of defenses who aren't accustomed to it The athletic TE too who automatically will widen out the defensive front...allow likley more inside gap control, and with a back like BO that be a huge plus for us And a big athletic TE who can basically just do a nice chop block/edge seal and then release into the flats or an out and up taking away a defender from the box would be another plus....especially as a true threat to catch the ball and do something with it

Yeah there is a marked difference for sure...and several comments..and some somewhat cryptic by several different players last yr speaks volumes to how much a clusterfuck last yr was...especially when a lot of it was said too just after breaking camp. The baffling part is Osh kept OC guy around in a reduced capacity..serves zero purpose and really nothing he can really teach BO or any back really to up their ganes The fact we see MCI being integrated in as rb..full back and out in a pass catching role...Clercius being used differently and with more versatility tells you Condell see's potential and use in certain players others ignored..or just couldnt see. Be interesting how we deploy guys and what are offence looks like. I'm thinking this may be the best thing to happen to ZC since..well he first arrived here.

yeah we woefully misused him the last few yrs....I think Condell will get most of him...Dude is a beast and can be very effective for us.

yup...he needs to show that the leap from college to pro speed isnt too much for him, and that with time and reps when he can get em that he will adjust...or can...From all accounts seems no reason he shouldn't..and yup...skelly where DB's arent actually going through guys, and pressure and chaos along the l.o.s scrimmage is real and you may have to adjust your platform, or move your launch point...totally different circumstance....be interesting to see this weekend tho...and if he has ability to use legs if nothing is there...or pocket collapses....and he isnt panicked from the slightest pressure or first read isnt there...Perkins we know can go off script and run....can Elgersma as well

Yeah he has the what you want body type....has as legit an arm as we seen up here in a while, can make all the throws, and even though his highest level of competition really is CIS....He knows the Canadian game and won't be fooled by what he see's like a rook American He like other's said...should be eased in...not expected to light the world on fire right outta the shoot, and he has to show/prove he can parlay his Canadian experience, and his skill set at the speed and complexity of the pro level...That's the only real issue, and if he is able to, and or we allow him time and rope to learn and develop and not just thrown to the wolves and ruin him...He should be just fine...He just has to become and prove he is pro level in the head...he has the rest already Wilson has the pocket poise...but just seems like something is holding him back...Mental...ability to process/read....who knows but if he doesnt have monumental success and light shiat up this pre-season he is as good as gone...as Perkins actually looks like he and his pro experince has enabled him to grasp the Canadian game pretty well, and if he shows any upside and success...and ability to make things happen be it in scheme or off schedule....I cant see the roster not being Zach..Perkins and Elgs

I think the pre-season for QB is gonna be basically Wilson or Perkins decision as to who on roster....ZC is a given, and you would think Elgersma is gonna be as well as QB3 to start season after all they hype about him. If Wilson is beat out by Perkins, then I see him gone and Thorne PR'd, but if he steps up and shows he can be the backup then i see Perkins PR'd if he accepts it....or we 1 game him for a bit and Thorne sent packing. I kinda like what Perkins brings and wanna see him in game action, and if he shows promise then I'd rather he get the spot as I think his skill set would really translate well up here. I expect to see ZC...Perkins...Elgersma as the 3 on roster. How and who we use as actual QB2 will be interesting and who takes over the short yardage role as well.

we'd be a better...younger...more athletic defense with them along with Griffin at SAM than with Wilson and T.Jones Maybe we are gonna go with the upside and more talented and part ways with one of Jones and Wilson with the guy staying being a DA and the backup if injury happens...A smart team wanting to filed it's best roster and have guys really develop along the way would do that...as opposed to riding old declining guys into dust as they degrade along the way...wasting the talent you have in waiting yup...Wilson would be the perfect DA/mentor/rotational guy and starter if need be, while the youth continue their development. He offers a lot still, but man you gotta be proactive in the transitions and player development so you arent relying on green unproven guys when the old guard finally break right down...we seen how that plays out already...did we learn? Funny thing tho...Jones is a good player...not great, and when you stack em all up prob ranks behind Wilson..Ayers..Woodbey...Griffin in terms ability and versatility...with Smith and Shay right on hisass Being a holdover/vet shouldn't be an automatic pass to be the starter

You saw correct...ZC has been doing that full body heave now for 2 solid seasons, and has affected his accuracy and ability big time. He doesn't throw like the new breed now...through the lower body with hip twist...He all arm and his arm has been degrading for a while now Elgersma does throw a truly nice ball, and definitely looks the part and seems composed...Game action will be a good indicator of the one thing we need to find out, and that's if he can process quickly, and trust in what he is seeing....and not get the impatient jitters and be goaded into bad decisions....if he can grasp all that, and should be a bit ahead of the curve from a U.S trained QB having played Canadian Ball all his life we may have something. well...he is the more complete LB....Said for 2 yrs Jones should be the rotational/situational guy and the depth as a DA...lotta holes in his game

yes and no....He shouldn't have been counted on at the start of the yr, but could have been a transition guy going into this yr and beyond, and yeah I was highon him, but we had no clue as to how to use/develop him and the OC guy fiasco last yr just exaggerated it. We will now never know Yeah...Tachinski is really just a warm body due to all the injuries, and shouldn't be anywhere near the roster, but I sure we will waste a PR spot on him for no specific reason at all knowing Osh...and his "praise" of Corcoran for "constant effort" as opposed to highlighting any real dominance or ability/upside skill wise is scary in itself with likely more roster inadequacies this yr playing out. I would hope it can be said that he likes to see every guy with "constant effort" or why they even here??...That doesn't translate into being the best available player

I think it just a matter he not ready yet...big ol lineman recovering from that...timeline wise he wouldnt have been ready yet to play....and shouldnt...I think we should have learned from last yr that rushing guys isnt wise....we basically ended 2 careers He played 4 games....so he not even 12 months into recovery yet....He should not be counted on till at least labor day really....But agree...he is a useful depth guy...great in Jumbo and he is good on short yardage defence...great get off (one of the best on team in goaline defence) and has his knife technique down pat... Thats why dont like Fredrickson....4.7's 40...not an elite vertical...prob gonna have real issues getting separation from pro caliber DB's...and not the greatest footwork/agility...Be a nice 6th/7th option if roster allowed but our roster likely wont allow that....as he doesnt return kicks Thats why outta what we have left of whom I saw I'd go with TJ Davis....has more speed and agility...can make people miss with ball in his hands and can work a lot of what we do in the inside passing game/sweeps and also has returned kicks, plus the fact he was a QB you could maybe have some trick plays with him...Plus even tho it arena ball has some actual experience outside of college

we gonna be a double digit win team this yr...no doubt in my mind...I am worried tho about our depth on offence outside the oline and rb. Excited about the defence...and how it's gonna evolve And if we have significant injuries to Demski and Neild....or have a National olineman...or 2 go down where we need to play 3 or more Imports (we have nice depth top do so so not worried there) then we are gonna have to go 3 national receivers, and we dont have the ponies for that...and Lord help ZC then as teams will basically take away White/Wilson and make him start pressing and forcing throws into bad spots...and we know he will as history shows....or lean on a middling group of Canadian receivers who will basically offer nothing much

Our Oline is gonna be one the leagues best, so we improved there...Our defence as well is gonna be way better with the additions, plus the likely use of several big upside Canadians making our rotations much more effective. Or offence and scheme is gonna be night and day better with a real OC...The aforementioned oline upgrade....and a solid top 4 receiver crew this yr. But I think we dropped the ball at the draft, and we are razor thin in depth on offence with skilled position players...one or 2 serious injuries to key guys...we gonna be scuffling yeah, but the lack of forward thinking starting 2 yrs ago already has us in this spot....didnt say there was a plethora of talent there for the taking....but we really have done nothing to have any real succession plan yeah watching Wallace...he looks like a total different player from last year...and thats not just his frame And across the board with top 30 guys yeah we better than last yr and more than solid....but we are thin in depth again in a few areas and our draft was another slug grab event with 75% guys who have no upside. Our lines this yr I think are gonna get us back to possibly 2019-2021 land and be our key to grabbing first again. I love what we have cooking on defence and the versatilty and athleticism of our guys..especially the lb's and backend

You don't have to be an "expert" to see we still razor thin at QB and a significant injury there likely kills our hope "Expert " sentiment isnt required either to see that after our 5 best recievers.. we are razor thin..zero experience let alone depth and no real front runner with exceptional talent to make a difference..which also goes back to the hope ZC has a renesaince again..but he also is a guy who doesn't thrive with inexperienced and less than stellar talent around him at this juncture The draft..was ok'ish but took a flier on a guy early who we didnt need to, and is a question mark for sure and is only gonna be a bit player as well while missing out on some guys who could likely contribute immediately...then went and took another flier on a guy already signed in NFL and back loaded the rest with a bunch of guys who really won't Crack.. or have no business cracking roster..just more low to no upside guys that we already had a slew of...that being said we nailed free agency so that's a good thing

Have to see in a game I guess...he has an average vertical and his speed in combine was 4.7's and don't see the elite body control some other receivers who run 4.6 to 4.7 have to compensate for the lack of being a real burner...Kenny Lawler for one, and you had generally a better than 50% chance he would go get a ball if you got it even remotely close to him. I didn't see him be able to get much separation in drills either, and his footwork isn't elite either. Sure there has been some mention of him making a big catch here or there, but that was also a matter of his not getting separation and against a lot of guys who will never play up here. So what should have been just your standard pitch and catch skelly play seemed more impressive, that's not gonna happen against CFL vets, or teams starters. But am curious as to what he does in a pre-season game(s)as some guys just go off in games, but look pedestrian in practice, Also wanna see what the QB convert TJ Davis brings as that could be an intriguing guy and possible use as an option pass potential, and is good with ball in his hands making people miss so could be used in jet sweep type stuff...plus he has returned kicks. So hopefully he gets a lot if use in pre-season to show the versatility we need. but right mow I would take Wheatfall over any guy we brought into camp this yr, and I sure Condell would have had a use, or known a way to use him. Hopefully that impression changes after pre-season game 1