Booch

Part of issues are TC and guys having their spot carved in cement regardless of what goes on in camp...that needs to change as does guys maintaining their spot...guys here have had zero worry about that...and that initself is a cancer so to speak..as deserving players see it...work your ass off..get better...actually be better...but if u not in the old boys club or a Osh favorite....u stuck in PR land...ive never seen so much of this in my life in football...and that's in 30 yrs involved in game playing...and training/coaching/recruiting on both sides of the border ....baffles me.

Yeah...just this past season shouldn't have been the indicator for them to perk up and realize..."wow...we have issues" this been almost 4 yrs in making...hence the little faith in Osh turning it around unless he was re-upped with extreme conditions and if the same ol same ol is occurring then best get yiur cardboard boxes ready to pack up your crap Actually...Ford would have stayed and not for as much as edm gave...but a significant bump none the less We just basically gave in and accepted he would leave..and really good thing as we are severely overpaying in our secondary as it was...like almost 600k into Nichols...Holm...Kramdi is crippling as it is and poor use of sms and assets...bad roster management We would have been just as good if not better with paying Nichols and replacing Holm and Kramdi...Kramdi isnt even needed as a ratio piece...we pay huge for him and cause Osh loves the Canadian/underdog...If Kramdi was an import...he would not be starting based on what he offers...and i don't see another team in the league that would dump their sam for him and his price tag...its things like that which all add up to our roster and depth dysfunction...and its Osh induced... Thomas and Kolo gobbling up prob 300k between them for their pathetic performance...but they Osh's bois and we tied to them...hopefully that's a "were " tied to them

We had incompetence tho above in the board running crap...and poor football people as prez...etc...we don't have that now so replacing a hc wouldn't have been an issue I'm more concerned now that osh won't deviate from his ways...and we will lose out on guys due to it..and still neglect player development over his personal favs...Maybe he...and lesser extent Walter's were given a bit of a directive/direction from Wade..Hopefully and guess early moves come Jan will show as so...but the extension of OC guy...early signings like last yr of garbage like Thomas...not cutting/releasing others in early Jan to show we going after legit FA talent.. then buckle up for more the same and fighting to just get to 3rd at best You should have asked the real questions...put him on the spot...I woulda

i'd rather have a rookie make the odd mistake...and learn and develop than an old guy who justv doesnt have it....or a coach's fav who has no business as a starter...that also equates to losses...likely more, and at same time you arent building depth

risky move....and too much weight given to what he accomp0lished 5 yrs ago now...and since...we been regressing Making playoffs is great....losing for inexcusable and easily preventable reasons is an issue....Osh wont change hu=is ways ....hasnt in 12 yrs. People say he and Walters have earned the right to fix things....well why did they break it in first place?....and since 2021 have had 4 yrs now to "fix" it and if anything we got worse Guess we have to wait and see and give benefit of doubt...Maybe Miller re-upped with the caveat you show a change...or you will be canned The month of January will pretty much dictate the 2026 season with who some the first re-signings are....and if Walter's doesnt get on the podium and state that we are moving on from a whack of guys from the "glory days" half a decade ago now and we moving in a new direction...with that the announcement sooner than later that OC Guy is not coming back but failing to do that....status quo with coaching and how we run camp/practices and award spots with nary a competition.....the early signing of Thomas types...can see a ZC extension as well....among other dumb moves....well 2026 gonna be more the same I have little faith in Osh until he show's different...and if he does he will get my praise for it...I never dumped on him pre 2019...but since 2023 and the continuous blunders that lead to where we are....he has done nothing to get much praise as it got worse yr over yr...so not holding my breath I do expect some guys we dont wanna see leave ....leave tho thing is....RB is a real poor place to have your marque salary in a Canadian where you can get the same or even better production from an import at 1/3 the cost....and who in the CFL pays anything close to what BO gets here? We coulda payed Dobson...easily...but we tied whacks of money into guys Osh valued more....who were not worth it....it's how you allocate money...and where....not so much to who....RB....DB.....LB....Boundary receiver. we have excessive money tied into RB...DB....LB....and it kills us elsewhere...

yup...we definitely backed in....and was lucky we were able to

with 2023 and 2024 in the que Say or Smith wouldnt have been a huge difference maker....but wouldnt have hurt us either, and would have been so much further in development for 2026 tho, the larger issue was it would have allowed another import elsewhere...say a legit Dline man to delete Thomas....an Imoport olineman todelete Kolo....a true legit WR threat You cant look at the thing just player vs player....it affected the entirety of the roster...a poorly crafted one for us in regards toassetts/value/worth....and coupled with his insistance to not vary from his rstio allotment....just handcuffed us more

what if ish said he didnt want them....or valued crap like Kolo...Thomas and money they sucked up as more important...is the G.M to do opposite of what HC wanted?...That would be dysfunctional....or if HC pited and stommped his feet at direction GM wanted...again dysfunctional...either way...no good and one had to go....and just based on what we witnessed with game decisions...who was rostered and played more....dumb move in games....playing hurt guys....not using Natioilzed rule....playing more Canadians than needed, when some were inferior than a Import....pretty apparent the major issue here became Osh.....and yeah Walter's was weak, and should have done something more...Or maybe they tried and Osh just was Osh...so plan was regardless after season if he got another offer or not...was gonna be gone? Enabling Osh to slither away ego intact?...who knows....but we can all agree we need change Running back 2026 as status quo...same people in place....we will be a 5th place squad Yeah...roster aside, or what was made available...Osh picked poorer players over better/younger upside guys....rarely allowed any young guy to get reps and acclimated/experince...or even push a guy off the starter spot to make the roster deeper and stronger.....while he rode guys into the dirt till there was zero tread left, or became limited due to injury and then had no viable guy to plug in they trusted or had any film on to feel good about playing them, and had to trot out injured guys further hamstringing the game day roster, all the while claiming they "all stater quality/number 1's) How that is any of Walters fault is hard to comprehend, and if he pulled the trigger mid-season this yr many...well most here would claim what an error that was ....Walter's biggest gaff was not pulling trigger after the 2024 Grey Cup loss and why we lost it...poor rostering...poor in-game decisions....and that was 3 yrs running Time to look forward now and at the positive aspect....we aren't rebuilding...or coming from a place where we started with Osh in 2013 that was an utter dupster fire...we in a good place....just need a new driver...we will be fine

well you should have some trust, as that's who you hired, and Osh did sell him and Miller on being the guy to carry out their vision But...how things went since 2023....that trust and rope should have been reeled in, and the hard questions asked....I think that is where we went off the rails.....and need to get that back on track...we are not in desperation mode and really are just a few lil tweeks away from being right back where we were....but not under this current set-up But when the G.M and H.C are buds....who had some early success together...muddies the water...can't go down that road again

but if the HC at end of yr and in FA tells his G.M this is who he wants....yadda yadda yadda....the G.M should trust in him....not create rifts....Walter's and Osh are both to blame....100%....Walter's more so in not being more the "boss"....but then that also falls on Miller too End of the day Osh picks the roster, and cant be argued he picks some bad choices....so it's his team...he also makes the dumb decisions and poor judgement....in charge of the unprepared team more times than we can count, and rarely able to answer with adjustments....Walter's biggest blinder was not dumping him last yr...lesson learned I guess Agree....and thats exactly what happened here...Osh was given to much currency and rope due to a few cup wins...and Walter's stopped being the damn good G.M he was....And if like you said there was the stand-off....he should have canned him after the debacle of 2024.....or by labour day this yr

or ply the ones that could rep into the offence or defence....and they dont develop...until they leave here as other coaches do....Osh's logic just like his coaching is flawed, and will be a good riddance now....you dont larn on the sideline, or even in practice really...theory sure...maybe....playing....not at all yeah...exactly...how do you think we got T.Jones...dumped for a raw rookie...who ended up as RO.Y as well....and is better than any LB we rostered the last 2 yrs...Osh is flawed, and hopefully he can keep the Argo's in the abyss now I have not been one....and have no issues with him back to be honest Sad we have 2 former guys we could have kept on that list too...and would have made a huge difference here this yr....but our dear leder choose to retain his lil fav's in several spots....not allowing us to do so

GM is responsible with his staff of scouts to bring in talent....not "final say" as well....as it goes with all teams...The HC will parlay the type of player he wants...who he wants to retain, go after in FA etc..etc...and G.M and his team will accommodate that best they can...They not gonna bring in guys, or resign guys/not resign guys that go against what the HC wants or claims he needs.. This roster garbage and fail is all on Osh as he is the the guy who puts the roster together....and the only fail by Walter's is the blind trust and believing in what Osh was saying....He should have tied the can to him at end of last yr, or as this season unfolded and the issues that were responsible again for us listing badly and still sinking...canned him before labour day...That's Walter's fail...and to an extent Miller's too Players were brought in...and cut...many showed real well in camp and in pre-season and above all had potential and upside...youth on their side...but Osh went another direction...kept garbage...aged out....poor talent and nobody experienced to back them up...making it worse Could the guys released made a difference and been better....we can never know but very likely would have because they couldn't have been worse than a lot of what we retained....even guys who were kept, were better than a lot of the guys that Osh choose to play and align his beliefs in...

He should have been rostered in lieu of Ball or some other irrelevant bottom Canadian and repped in at times...if for nothing to get a guage on him Like his tenacity and size and his technique is real good being a raw rookie

Bud Grant left for NFL tho...im sure if he stayed he would have eventually flamed out at somepoint tho...as its inevitable

Average fan that just looks at record..2 cup wins pretty much half decade ago...read the media slobbering but don't connect dots to the 4 straight failing yrs...and common theme as to why and what real issues are for sure will think hes da bomb...hence that sentiment...every good coach and situstion runs its course...that's why u don't see lifetime coaches in one spot...we ran a good 4 yr course bookended by 1 poor course that almost ended early....to one now that was cratering due to no reason other than self sabotage by a stubborn guy who can't seem to evolve further...it definitely time and he will be looked at in bomber history as one of the greats..but also flawed leading to his end

Bud...not mike...how dare you slander Mike u old bugger! 😆

If he'd come...be excellent choice...if he didnt get poached early he'd have had multiple cups..and prob coached well into the 10 yr range Guy was an excellent manager of a team..dealing with players..and on top of it all crazy smart positional coach/coordinator Even when he was HC at that time we only had minimal coaches so was heavily involved as DC along with HC Prior to that top notch DB coach...but dare to dream Any g.m dictating roster during season or arbitrarily cutting guys over the coach is Glieberman territory and dysfunction at its highest degree Once camp opens...its all HC on who stays...who goes...who plays..and how much...period...end...no deviation... We will continue the slide...and some players we don't want to leave.. Will leave and several that should have been gone for a few seasons now...will be back...basically

Maybe that's one of his "options" If he to get a big raise then better be elsewhere...he already in Bang for buck range where he hampers lineup elsewhere Don't get me wrong hes a great player and the heart of the team...but also at a position where if u know how to scout can get same production at a third of the cost. Beat me to it...if he wants more...we are a better team moving on...sentiment and all aside...be crippling...especially if we still paying ZC

Yeah...that was part too...but also...he wasn't happy...was a big loss...u think a new young up and comer would say the other part in media...not happening Yes..in not so many words...and so he left

We come in with a new HC...with a vision and willing to let best players play...and spots be earned...we won't lose anyone we want/need to keep We stand pat and continue as we have ladt 2 yrs...expect many a defection..and piss poor FA period

Yup..always wrong....much like your drivel...continue lol Just cause you don't know me, don't let it get you down...others do...but also I don't need them or want them to vouch...your justvthe classic internet poster who peaked in high-school but still likes to live there leading your gaggle...u do u.. And cause I won't offer u names doesn't make it not true...I have to others in PM and had it validated...maybe some will tell u so but I don't require or need them too...its also about trust...and u have none and I can't trust u currently to divulge anything as far as I could throw you...and pretty sure I could toss u a fair distance too...why would I offer any tidbit to you ...someone who attacks..accuses...shoots off his cockhole incessantly...earn it...and u might get it

Could have landed Flo as well..amoung others...even guys like Godber could have been had in FA which would have made us significantly better...but when HC tbinks otherwise and got too much sway.....well.....deals can be made but when your HC says we good...and you trust him to a fault...well u get our roster And the G.M should trust the HC he chose...and shouldn't meddle into things...but there comes a point when they have to start exercising their g.m role as the boss too...but we didn't here...result of too much buddy buddy crap here ...possible but it needed to change this offseason ...last offseadon really but we dragged ass on several levels and were lucky to make playoffs if not for the cross over...I am a fan of the team and defend a lot...players and coaching...but we were a flawed smoke and mirrors team 2 yrs running..and the smoke finally took over

But if given total control basically...he'd have no pushback to deal with He was given too much here..and killed us and created rifts with his room and with scouting...There a reason Penn left here...why work your butt off all offseason for nothing...Ted offered him similar role and off he went

We need 2 legit new bodies...or 1 if Wallace progresses which i sure he will We in good shape with Vpool and Randolph as future and to be honest a transition year with Vpool..Bryant...Eli if he gets the shot...or anyone but Kolo...Best of Neuf/Wallace...Randolph Bryant i think is more than serviceable at guard as we transition and be invaluable to Vpool and the center...and is damn good insurance in pinch if a tackle goes down We def tho need to grab a top notch olineman in FA regardless of position as have missed out on several good guys lately as we let our line erode..and guys walk

So Argos apparently wanna give osh big say in personelle...obviously they delusional and wanna be wandering the wilderness aimlessly....have at er But new HC and era about to start here. 2 yrs too late but still a good thing