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2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He should have never been pulled for that shrimp Case...one of several stupid moves last yr for no apparent reason.. I get eye rolled from.the nutyankers all the time...it's glorious... -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I like the price...prob a post injury deal and rightfully so...totally puts us in li e to sign Lawler now...my bird in tree said he would be inked here prior to fa open...for 2...guess we shall see... Which makes sense as it may tale a half yr to get to where he was...if he can get there...he needs to avoid the Poundings he takes tho And wr would have been just fine as he isn't a ratio requirement .. When he go down? -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
His ceiling fell in and went through the floor and he's in the basement now with all that rubble on him as he tippy toes around it and has the odd play run right into him -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I also think part of the recruiting and player movement is because the HC doesn't wanna accept that some guys are needing to be swapped out...or that we have personnel issues...as he trumpets it repeatedly how they are all starter quality and here for a reason yet he will trot out injured guys over this apparent "depth" or play past their prime guys with prime time reps...that's where our roster...and eroded depth issues come from...and it's been slowly eroding us...not sure wtf the dynamics are with our management structure and HC's pull/influence but it's time for the G.M and to an extent the President...as he has football knowledge to be the bosses and have final say...How elite teams operate -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Every player will make plays and u can make a reel on...his salary was posted as 139k last yr...and Walters doesn't do incentive laden deals -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Some people blinded by what Osh claims...he's by far a complete player to be paid what he is and he doesn't just "make plays" He's good in a couple facets..but he's horrible in coverage...he at times out in space looks lost and misses his play and he is not a good in space tackler...he's good crashing down and in the scrum but in space was prob our worst db And that salary and the others tied into the secondary are killing us...his 140 would be better served with Ford and SAM is easily replaced for under 100k -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I give him credit for being adequate....nid teir maybe.....I not happy with adequate for 140k per yr -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Not sure why people wondering what Vaughters has left in tank...he'ss only 31 and has limited wear and tear from a few yrs testing the NFL....he gives us off the edge what we have lacked since JJ left and thats power to collpase and good inside technique...can see this really complimenting WJ Garbutt has a well rounded skill set but has to elevate now too...can he...will he get the chance....but he was essentially a rookie last yr learning as he went ans playing a lot that SchmeckThomas combo did none our other dline guys any favours Persons tho is the guy I really keen on....He was a legit NFL prospect for a pass rush specialist, but they wanted him bigger and he balked at that....he's perfect for the CFL tho Linebacker is what I curious about...The recent Jones signing is a biggie....and preferably our jones is the 4th guy...rotates in at various ways and isnt anointed the defactoMLB...as we know we like to do that around here regardless if they are worthy of it...He has some holes in his game and gets exposed for it a lot if he is 90% snap guy. If Kyrie is actually healthy,,,and stays healthy I have no issues with him as a transitional guy this yr while we groom his replacement...Healthy Wilson is top of league in his position Same with Kramdi...I know a lot of you here think he's the bee's knees but he is gawd awful in coverage and open fiield tackling...he's a good situational guy and in and around the box when we slide him up...but at 140k per he should be a divison and league all-star..and he's not...and he wont Griffin or Parker there would be ideal and use Kramdi as super sub like we did with Griffin....Make it a oint to have Kelly take over safety....and find another via draft or free agency to also play there....thats your National spot and allow yur front 7 to be your best and most athletic...You can spell off with a Lawson on the line withh a solid rotation...and With Kramdi ala Griffin... -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
pERSONS....dude is legit a talent as we have brought up in a while on the dline -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I still think we should just sign Lewis and Lawler...to go with Mitchell..Demski..Clercius and Wilson if he gets cut...if he lingers around there then some unknown to us yet rookie so groom....You couldn't fail going to war with that group and BO -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
well we better be signing some big ticket free agents or have some serious talent we bringing in that are sure fire starters... I know Person's will be an is legit...But Garbutt was our best end not named WJ...And Fox over all was probably the best well rounded DT.....Going by what Osh trotted out or allocated reps too is by no means...at all the best guys played If Cole isnt signed here he will be playing elsewhere...you can bank on that...don't let some of your bias against some posters opinion and your thought that Osh does everything right cloud your judgements I bet if Thomas went unsigned by us...that be a guy you never hear from again tho.....prob several others we gonna trot out..... -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Or Jeffcoat...Or Couture...Or Grant...Our a legit Punter...or a legit Canadian depth/totaion guy like Kongbo...Jury out still on MLB... he cant walk....is he not on his rookie deal?....he plays as is...or doesnt play at all if he gets no NFL deal -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I dont want Hollins..we can do better Walters should just buck up and go all in.....Sign Lawler and Lewis for 225..245k....give em incentive to grab some hellacious bonus cash for leading league in receiving, and TD's.....sort it out later...even tho he says he doesnt like to do that or whatever yip yapin he did....only 1 will obtain it anyway...so have at er Lewis..Mitchell..Lawler...Demksi and Clercius and some unknown yet rookie backing up....out in front of B.O...hell yes and if ZC cant produce with that he's toast Let slugs like JT and Kolo come to camp...as fodder and purge them for youth and upside...frees up about 300k for elsewhere....shave 140k off to fill their spots with entry level guys and you still have a nice 140...150k to use We had B.O...Lawler and Schoen all last yr...no reason why we cant swap Lewis for Schoen to make it work....If you aint cheating you aint trying.....there's ways to circumvent the cap....abuse the bejesus outta that marketing money before the league eliminates or caps that. Too much belief is allocatted that you need all these vets to be sucessful...no...you need ballers...surround them with a solid 10 or so 4-5yr+ guys and a smattering of 2nd and 3rd yr guys and you will be just fine if you play your best talent...and actually coach them and not go thru the country club atmosphere admiring how you did it 5 yrs agao -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
same...now bring his buddy Winton along -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
and really...what he make last yr?....friggin peanuts too....total head scratcher what we were doing there...hardly a spot that ate up big bucks and we needed to cut cost...There were multiple other spots making a lot more...and giving us cacka for it -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
What would bode well for us...even not factoring in who may or may not sign in FA or re-up from our current FA's is that going into camp....Positions are all up for grabs, and the best players, and ones who also show nice upside on top of it, get the spots....and That goes for all positions...you have some key vets that obviously stay..WJ...Lawson...Nichols...Holm...Griffen...Bonds...Ayers...Wilson...Adams...Woods...Bryant..Neuf..Wallace...Eli..BO...Demski...Mitchel....not Myron...Castilla...ZC...Clercius...Lawler and or Schoen if signed....MCI...QB Wilson...after that....take the cream of the crop....best of the best....sort out who and where you designate Nats and Imps when you have your 46 main guys.... When is last time we have done that?....not in this run we havnt...and we now on the backside of the success...and teetering -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
then we low balled him...and he retired....and injury issues was a reason but we kept resigning Biggie..Wilson...Hallett... and still havnt replaced his production yeah....in theirfading yrs for most part....or on the start of downside with no capable replacement to push or groom...tho Osh doesnt allow a gy to push he not around so hard to know...and dont really have contacts with him or guys close to him...but I do know from experience that even when deemed helthy..some guys still take months to get back...when was he hurt even as I dont recall -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
WE would have been sinking 550 k into 4 db's...thats insane and stupid...even without Ford we are sinking a heck of a lot when we shouldnt have to.....good luck to him elsewhere as he a baller, but we dont need a canadian corner to make ratio we've allowed our depth and where we allocate our money to erode and handcuff our roster...been going on for a few yrs now...and hate to harp on the reason but its the HC love for old aged vets and his reluctance to be like a guy like Bouno or Mathews...even Cal and move on before it cripples your roster and asset management...or ability to manage it fluidily not always who have we lost...but who we have missed out on also clinging to guys who's upside had passed them by...where oft injured or looking forward shoudnt have been in teams plans in 2 yrs or so... As ro the Schoen issue...who knows what he will be able to do when he healthy, him and Lawler offer 2 excellent skill sets....But Lawler offers that something other that not many do...Schoen included...and Schoen the last seson and his coule games in 2024 shown to have a bit of the droppsies...part of which is he is a bit leary of all the pounding he takes after catch...have never seen an elite receiver take the shots he does repeatedly...has to be a reason for it Lawler miseed with injury last yr...yr prior was that suspension...2019 he didnt get on roster until week 4...broke a collar bone in edm making an elite catch....**** happens....I like Schoen but he is more replaceable with good recruiting -
U just don't get it Never said they need to win every game...and getting their means diddly...unless you are happy with failure...I don't know many people in life who are except nuttuggers here We lost 3 of the 5 plain and simple due to a coach who was the reason...big deal he got us there...if he can't finish the deal...the that's an issue...and we are losing more than we winning in cups...to comment on your teams of yonder comment I've been around the game a long time..still am....seen a lot...involved in a lot...talk to many still involved...I coach..recruit..train...and mentor players so yeah I have a bit more "in the know" than Joe fan... So in a nutshell what can this team do...tell it's HC to change some his ways and ideals...accept fault even tho his stubborn pride and ego won't allow it and adapt and evolve...or fall by the wayside...and if it can't happen...adios amigo...you like to blame the players for losses but the coach is awesome...5 straight appearances...if you were involved in high level football you would know the players Excell or fail 90 percent due to what they were coached to do and schemed for...u could have a team of all world players on field but if not prepped or coached properly...and then adjust to the individual game itself...u will lose...we rode guys in their prime and best at their position from 2019 till 2024...and when elite isn't elite no more...the success erodes...much like we allowed our depth to erode in a serious way clinging to the past...we choose to play injured guys...or past their usefulness guys...why...no depth...even tho we told otherwise...it's a matter of the coach doesn't believe it himself and trots out injured guys and less capable ones as we have no depth...or is he just a stubborn fool? What's your answer Mr "he's cooked"
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2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
we did fine actually when Woli was out....and Clercius has potential to be actually a lil more dynamic and still offer same as Woli My issue is we have an injury prone Demski who goes games missing in action...and has bouts of the fumbles...Clercius who is only in yr 2...and...............................................sweetfuckall after that for depth No clue what our roster aspirations or plans are but I doubt Osh would swap out ratio,,,,as he has never shown an instance to initiate change for the better only unless due to injury or veer off the path he has travelled....maybe this is the yr....I have my doubts tho And if we go status quo on ratio.....having a raw canadian rookie as the "depth" or picking up some cast-ff from elsewhere from the scrap heap...or via free agency if anything has us paying the same...or more for a new guy....or paying less for a draft pick who likely wont even have to tie his shoes up as he will never see field, or if he did be totally ignored...so how does that make us better?...this has been seen over and over Right now looking at who/what we signed...have no idea what our plan is....Are we gonna saddle ZC with Mitchell...who is gonna have a break out yr I bet....Oft injured Demski...Clercius...then rookie..rookie? and rookie depth on top of it? Can't see ZC loving that and making that work well What we doing on defence?....re-upping Wilson and Thomas screams of running it back with a lot of the guys who have failed 3 straight times and it's a good thing Biggie is damaged goods as we all know if not he'd be back Super curious who we are targeting and what area of the team we figure we need to use FA to fill the spots. All that money sunk into the secondary to me is not a smart allocation, and I bet we hang on to some in hopes Ford comes back....so that makes it even pricier....when it should be your cheapest bucket of cash...not one your highest. So do we even have room and money on roster for a game breaking linebacker, and a legit interior dlineman or edge guy...3 things we woefully need, and if we do splurge there...are they gonna have to share reps with Jake?....signing a couple guys would further reinforce the lack of need for him I have faith in Walters and Miler to do the right thing...and get the right guys...I have minimal faith tho in Osh using them correctly tho, or fielding the best lineup...why would we be uber confident? -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
maybe we will let him pull double duty to...he's a more than capable punter....and our Punter guy wont be missed, and allows us to put a Global on roster who can plat teams...even rotate in on defence -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
we can trim national dlineman...we dont need 4...and if we plan to use those 4 as the main contributors to the line....ouch...we will have a brutal dline I know Walters has said he allocates this and that for certain groups....but he can also deviate as well...and that shouldnt affect who you go after or who you retain because a certain group is all used up SMS wise Woli got 110....Jake gets at least that I would assume if not more......now who offers the most value for that money as a depth piece...rotational guy or limited reps guy...Like many say as to if thats what they do with Jake to justify his signing then its good...even tho we have 3 other guys besides him? Woli by far would offer more to us....as he younger....more athletic...can play all the receiver spots and I am sure would work on cover teams if asked and do well....hold for kicks if need be...and If one of Clercius or Demski get dinged...and I sure One will...we know he can step in...start...and be very productive Jake...offers none of that...He can play tackle....let me rephrase he can go out there in the tackle position.....but offers minimal at best production....cant play anywhere else...sure we put him off the edge and that was an utter embarrasment to watch.....he can't cover on kicks....hold for the kicker?....good god....and if he has to step in as a full time starter cause whoever gets hurt...lord help us There would have been 110-130k give or take tied up in Jake or Woli and the same for use elsewhere by trimming one of the roster....I see where the value and benefit would be...as I sure others do as well....Apparently tho not Osh....as I sure he was in the discussion as to keep Woli...and not re-sign Jake....or should have been....dumb move -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
unfettered....sounds dirty hahaha -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
not trying to be a crap disturber or arse...but do you have that as a fact?...or just an assumption? It possibly could tho with the Thomas signing....say they are looking to spend such and such in FA on some big ticket prices...and only have room for so much depth with vet Canadian salaries....so say 115...120k for a spot...Went to JT in lieu of Woli....and we just basically got rid of any National depth that has experience and usefulness at receiver....a spot we use for ratio...and are carrying 4 National DT's now...a spot where we dont need that much depth there....it wasn't a ratio requirement and especially with 2 of them (JT and Schmeck) who really are bottom barrel talent wise...one of whom has zero upside...and another...Samson who never got a snap...so is a big unknown too....rosterand sms wise....this doesnt look like the smartest allocation of assets and cash...Unless like I mentioned they have some big mind blowing event in FA happening....and I not too positive thats happening -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
Booch replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
that would make zero sense...basically all new receivers for ZC save for Demski who isnt always healthy, and minimal reps from Clercius....We all know how that will go....as ZC has a hard time dealing it to guys he isnt too familiar with...or has trust...and he gets hissy about it too...which compounds it My impression s we lock up Kenny if we havnt already, and let Schoen explore...to see where he valued after injury, and when he may even be ready...and then decide even minimal reps is a waste...If it is to spell off Lawson...which really should be the only reason we rotate a national in there then use a young guy and develop him...Park JT on the 6 game in case we have injury catastrophe....and keep his salary off the books And depending on how we use ratio...we may not even need a Canadian DT to satisfy the ratio...so dress 2 Nationals....Lawson and the best of the young guys or a possible draft pick