Booch

Yeah...why couldn't we have dangled that carrot Ott got exponentially better in one swift move We could have done the same...He plays best players...plays no favorites...will pull a guy mid game..heck mid drive Schooled us in 2 cups Damn...but good job ottawa Yup...and a HC with a track record...back up the truck...please Dinwiddie has a good hand in recruitment and lotsa connections...wayyyy more than osh and walters combined

if you read between the lines...aprt of what BO is saying about re-signing here is dependant on whats around him .....and he talking other offensive talent be it on the line....reciever and most importantly who is gonna create the offence.....and rightfully so What player on either side of the ball would wanna re-up here, let alone sign here fresh with the knowing they likely to be playing with...or behind garbage, and garbage coaching....I'll tell you....none...zero...careers are short enough as it is and the window to win even shorter which is the main goal of any player Guys who will tho...The JT's....Kolo's....the aged out guys with zero future who can still play a bit...but not at elite levels...and prob nowhere else, and offer zero upside...thats who...kinda what we have littered our roster with the last 3 ..4 yrs and the end results spoke for themselves....

yes and no...He isnt as physical for sure....but he also hits line faster and has more explosive ability and likely would break longer runs at times....maybe home run hitter types...so 6 of this...half dozen of the other thing...But wouldn't wanna rely on him as a bell cow at this time....yet....A 2 headed deal tho with him and MCI could be workeable....as why they havnt been working him more and feeling out his b=value is been an utter waste Uber athletic...prob one of the most in league really and great body type for CFL...Especially if they can implement him into the passing game more...He could be like a James Wilder type back minus the ****** if we put in the effort and could see the forest thru the tree's with guys on the roster But nope...lets Pidgeon hole guys into roles and responsibilities that accentuate nothing about them or potential, and ride the "known" commodities until there's nothing left to ride...or we ride them into the dirt due to injury and then are scrambling with a lack of depth and trust in any backup guy.... nope...practice are a wasteland to prove anything...much less supplant a guy ahead of you...you have to use the ability to see and project talent/worth and roll with it....again...somethjing we dont do unless forced to cause a guy is literally in a body cast

He controls the roster and what the coaches have to work with....sure assistants will have some input...at end of the day tho it's who he elected to keep...then roster...Begins and ends with the HC for most part Same with how's on the field as well on both sides of the ball...He may not have created the playbook...but he has the play card in his mitts all game....both sides of the ball and can say what he wants out there on any given play and what player package he prefers too...and his co-ord will send em out If anyone truly believes Younger would want Korn and Thomas taking more reps doing jackshit for example...than any other interior lineman we rostered....or refused to roster is just way out to lunch...moreso than even dear leader...It's classic case of making chicken salad outta chickenshit If Younger had the right guys up front...his scheme would be lethal....that also goes for some questionable usage of guys in back end as well

several on our roster are...but under Osh....many will never realize it playing here unless he shifts how he does things I'd be shocked if Woodbey doesn't get looks....he basically debunked some of the negatives NFL teams/scouts placed on him prior to his draft, so he could be following the Ayers path as well.... Smith could step into that role easily as well as WILL....or a role like Griffin held as well...freeing up a DA spot for another end or true NT...Griffin tho needs to be brought back...Shay as well I am sure could be a WILL candidate and good at it, but like to see him groomed at MAC. Bang for buck we can be better off without all 3 of those DB's truth be told, and able to focus funds elsewhere...No cfl team shoud have 2....let alone 3 giys in the secondary making 140k+....but getting Nichols back at a reduced price if possible...or the same is prob the best scenario of the 3....he is one the vet pieces you hold on to as he can ball still and is the best all around of the 3....

plain in simple...our roster/ratio makeup...sms allotment vs value for the $ is an utter mess...we have massively excessive amount tied into 2 positions in the CFL where they should be your cheapest groups (DB and RB) We value vet's and "intangibles" over talent...and that in itself comes at a cost, you don't need excessive vet's and limited role guys to succeed....a few on each side of the ball, along with coaches in tune with the room and the team will suffice Our draft strategy as well effects our roster, and isn't surprising when the HC and G.M basically were ST coaches only and base their picks save for the typical 1st or second nobrainer picks on these guys who excel on ST and thats it...and will ever be...Great players with starter skill can play teams too....a lot of times better than the plugs

yup...if we just want him for the super sub/jumbo guy then definitely....upgrade the center position....we should be doing that anyway at ny position...and we dont...or haven't been...and say it again...of making your team better means putting a Canadian in this spot supplanting and American...or vice versa...you do it...another thing we dont And yeah it's a Canadian league but playing 9 guys as your starters/majority rep takers when you dont have to and using only 7...and it makes you better.....then do it...But Osh doesnt...He's too Canadian biased and seems to wanna prove his bias/point over the betterment of his squad

oh I agree....similar money I am sure is the thing...what he looing for i think is competence in coaching...and an optimal roster to succeed....makes you think...If coach's and G.M brought back...is that his trigger to look elsewhere...I sure it is for others

that's actually part of whats hurting him....He excels in that role...can fill in at guard...center...I bet RT too.....use as a TE on run schemes...road grader on short yardage....is viscious in second level...KOLO cant fill in anywhere let alone even play center at a decent degree....and our lack of depth is stonewalling Eli...he's a victim of a poor roster...poor scouting....poor coaching decisions...

he's got no chance in hell of any NFL money or playtime...He\'s not even close to what Rourke was/is....and he lasted for what amounted to 35 seconds and major politics working against him..Elgersma has even more than Rourke....he's smoking crack if he thinks he gonna wait and get a chance...and make zero dollars doing it....But he could make anywhere from 300 to 600k a yr up here if he is legit....

true...but part of that is also we had next to nothing else for most of the season...and heavily leaned on him....and slap a Butler or Mills in that same role here and the touches....same result Love BO....and all he offers...but if he looking for even more cash...plus what we already paying Demski...the dumb money ZC i sure is getting....I just dunno....mind you drop JT...KOLO...Kramdi and you just free'd up close to 500K....and you could replace kramdi and Thomas with already signed entry level Imports at half the cost...even Kolo...I'd love to see us use a import center The balance left from dropping those 3 useless Canadian salaries for better use and bang for yur buck players who are import pays for any bump BO would be looking for...Lock him up for 2 yrs...and groom the replacement ...we already have 2 inhouse....

Exactly this...as well as our ratio and how we use it and allot the money and the value you get from it, and how it rapes you elsewhere, compared to the lower price tag and actual better more impactful play from an American...I talking SAM.....Interior d-line.....even center.....Second Canadian receiver Our flat out refusal to to never stray away from 3 oline...RB...2 receiver's and the pile of garbage that is JT Inside has just handcuffed us...allowed us to either miss out or not even consider an impact player in FA in any of those spots and made us weak....shallow in depth and just hanging onto garbage and never getting better.....because this "belief" we have that this is the winning template....cause it worked half a decade ago now To be the best, and stay the best you need to be continually getting better...bringing guys in....looking forward, not at past success.....and if you find a guy thats better than who is starting currently....you plug them in and your depth guys continually are being better along with your frontline guys....worrying about bruised ego's and loyalty aint gonna keep you succesful When is the last time....almost anytime under Osh where we have adjusted how we run our ratio....or cut a vet...a 2 yr..3yr starter....for an up and comer? I can't think of once....Only time we replaced anyone of significance is due to a player leaving for better opportunity/money or a guy was so injured even Osh couldn't justify dressing them...and even then he has played guys who in now way shape or form should have been dressed...let alone starting. And....hence....here we are and from sounds of some the soundbites from Osh....prepare for more BS nad from some personal discussions and chat I have had...expect some exodus cause of it...Sure the team is gonna spin it that "they are moving on from player X...PlaYer Y" and if you believe that get a hold of me cause I got some merchandise that I can sell you at a crazy wicked deal....it's awesome legit stuff 😁 We are a chaotic mess riht now....no real clue or plan and sounds like it's gonna fester into 2026..

yup...with the kolo....if we wanna retain Schmeck...thats the guy they should develop into a center....he prob believe it or not on the whole team...both sides of the ball is quickest off the snap...has a lethal knife push to collapse a line too.... I can't see any reasoning or rality where he is brought back...none....considering what a lot of the read between the lines statements from players....and the outside the ears of the media chatter is a lil more...profane shall I say....If he is brought back Osh better be grilled...questioned and called out on it And Osh's excuse as mentioned...which it is...a real bad one that he "cant draw up play"...like cmon...then you shouldnt be a coach at pro level....there is pretty much a template to run an offence off...its how you add to it...how you use it and the creativity within it...there is only so much....and so many concepts you can use...If a 12 yr running HC has no ability to do coachable things...getta outta here now I said before that I didnt think Osh was a good coach in regards to the teachable stuff and creating things....creating concepts and ability to adjust...let alone see where adjusting is required....Guess he just confirmed it

well at least he is taking some accountability...tho if he had half a brain he would also see the issues, and be able to make some suggestions to fix....and with that comes who he rostered.....he severely handcuffed our offensive chances in the ESF with who he put out there...and unwillingness to flip his ratio...heck he didnt even really need to flip it....just add an import reciever

yeah an undersized center thats athletic...can thrive in the proper scheme undersized center who is fundamentally sound and technically great....can succeed....again when you use them accordingly...If you have an overall smaller line...but athletic and technical, there are lotsa systems and blocking schemes you can use to actually be really sucessful...especially when you have RB that can carry the mail...which we do.... Undersized center, if powerfull and strong, can thrive as well Kolo lacks all of that....and an OC that couldn't likely draw up a system and a game plan to beat a California Prep school Interstingly enough Tui is not undersized.....very athletic....had top notch college coaching and his technical skills are as good as you see up here, and by all accounts is strong as Eff.....hmmmm....Imagine.....But cant translate/develop that by not playing the position

well hopefully if he shows up here...with the status quo he cool with sitting behind guys like Kramdi...Lawson....we prob bring back a cut or 2 cause we liked them, but cut them regardless....and watch inadequate Osh boi's suck up the joint

Thats multi layered.....who isnt roster let alone any business starting or worthy/usefull....I'd go with JT...Kolo...Korn...Corcorran....Ball...Weitz tho he did get removed AS for starters who aren't the best use of assets and cost...and the cost of player not worth the bang....Kramdi....T.Jones...Mitchell (tho i sure he will be quietly gone) All guys who played the one corner......Have to get better, and bigger....also was it scheme related and lack of pressure....maybe...but we still need to get physical DB's Wilson tho played well...needs to be replaced with the Canadian kids and open up ratio swap for us....That being said...Healthy Wilson is he better as the reserve DA LB over T.Jones...and would he be more cost effective...?? as well as offer a better all-around usefulness? Our recieving corp heeds major overhaul and talent...Keep Clercius..Demski...Pokey...the collective rest can all be replaced...need to be replaced. And Demski shouldn't be the A1 guy at this juncture

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part of that is the real poor receiver routes in this ....i wont even call it playbook....cause I dont think we even really had one...and a lot of what we installed and ran in camp to "prepare" everyone....we jettisoned....like wtf Preaching for 2 yrs now coaching is our downfall....and if in playoffs this yr would be again....and wow.....it reaered its ugly but all too familiar head I also dont think Osh knows how to coach/scheme or make any kind of play or teachable lesson....as he hasnt shown it....and I dont thinkn he can show it....when he has less than stellar co-ords his teams are brutally bad...and he isnt able to take on a role other than be the "leader"...and even then...seen minimal actual leading of late...a whole lotta excuses...non-chalantness...deflection....zero accountability....it's all good baby....cant we see it??....lol

and he got a chance to start when???...What has Kolo done other than make Osh all firm to keep him playing...ot's not his stellar performance There are a lot of instances where guys dont get a legit chance here and it's all on Oshea....if he has a hardon for a particular guy...good luck getting a chance to bump them out a lot of our success in jumbo is on him....on short yardage too...generally guys go his side...and when they dont...we often fail If a guy can block as 6th...off edge as a TE...one who is always in second level creating chaos.....do people truly think he isnt able to do that at center...his position he played all his life?... I can see why people say he hasnt earned it....but he hasnt been given a 2..3 game stretch to run with it...Kolo has been given ....gifted a 3 yr run...and got shittier each and every yr...how shitty does a guy have to get to finally be punted off the roster....Watching Jake..Kolo...Korny and others before....reeeeaaaaaal shitty apparently

People crap on ELI and say it be a non factor because they are the Osh defenders....Eli would be just fine if he was slotted as the starter there 2..3 yrs running now...people fail to correlate that our line has started to slide and wasnt close to what it was and became an issue as soon as KOLO was gifted the starter role...3 yrs ago...think about it

if osh is back....be more of the downward trend...poor roster...stupid decisions...same ol same ol A HC has huge impact and say on the roster and who they retain and who/what they request....and the G.M and his team accomodate...hence why we are littered with garbage....The G.M and coach will always work together in a fluid and functioning system and are not gonna really but heads, and the G.M isnt gonna go against what the HC vision is....they hired him for a reason.....but there also comes a time when the G.M and or President need to step in...and lay down some law....or remove things from the equation....and this wasnt being done here, and if we bring back all the same cast of characters....it's just gonna continue on....plain and simple This team is broken now at the top...they have no clue in the right way to get out of it and I can see several defections coming player wise with guys who want no more part of this, another season of big whooptydo FA signings and an even poorer roster...and how that's even possible is mind boggling but it's gonna unfold right in front of us....not even the real off-season yet but from sounds of all that in media reports...it's already disappointing and just gonna get worse Osh needs to grow a pair and not worry about this mt nice guy image he wants to portray and yeah....rip some new arses and explicity say where things are not optimal....and actually have a plan to fix it...He's a pro football coach....not a babysitter of fragile egos and minds.....just gutless...season is over...was a pathetic excise of one at that....take some accountability for it....make others accountable....but nope...smug grin....like what we have....guys are awesome...blah blah....fuckingblah

We had the polar opposite

If osh is back...and i hope hes not...but if so...it better be on a short leash and any resemblance as to whats gone on of late...and games that look like this yr...that fire button better be pressed I think bringing him back is a huge risk sms wise cause if he just continues as he has..and we need to cut bait...and who really thinks he will change? Then we on hook with money to him on the coaching cap aspect Yup...somewhere along the way in 2022 to this yr we lost the plot..the foresight...ability to project and the ability to make the tough decisions...can these 2 get back to that? Maybe? But if they can't and we committ again...only to have to can them...then we really gonna be wandering in the wilderness for a few yrs...they did it before...was it just lightning in a bottle and things just lined up perfect? Or was it from actual things they did...and then got too fat and complacent?? There's arguments for both cases...huge decisions coming here that could affect us for a few yrs running...in either direction..

G.m oshea would be a bigger disaster than what we have scene here...our roster would suck even more if he had full control...it sucks as is with his partial say