Booch

thanks for your perspective as well, but not basing things on youtube and general consensus. I seen all play live, albeit only seen Waggoner live in camp here. But it's easy enough to see from live play, comparison in camp through drills, ability to correct and adapt, and conversely not having the ability to do so is where i get my perspectives...not saying they are be all end all, but pretty confident in them. If Hurl is our starting "middle" linebacker then we failed in recruiting this year...and I thnk general consensus would agree with that. If he can grab a outside spot, and make us a better team and be a Canadian..great, but if he doesn't it's not a free agent pick up failure. He is good enough to rotate, be occasional starter and a dominant special teamer and makes our Canadian depth better.

I prefer Allen over Hurl too actually...and based from what I have scene is why I feel that way. Also pedigree plays into it, and with reps and learning the Canadian game he can be a Barrin Simpson type in the middle, but with more speed and better cover skillls. I paid a lot of attention to the linebackers when I was there and Hurl didn't particularly impress me. He is in the bottom tier of linebackers in regards to cover skills (not just Canadian but all LB's) Waggoner is much better, has the loose hips to be able to turn and run with a receiver easily from either side which is essential up here and is bigger and faster. Takes better angles and has much better closing and recovery speed. He's a rookie here yes, but he has pro experience and has played in pro style schemes, and is smart and will pick stuff up fast. Our best scenario would be a LB core of Allen or Bass in the middle (whoever wins it outright) with the other guy rotating in..I sure we can DI one as we have done that before. If Adams steps up and shows he can take over for Randall then you flank the MLB with him and a Waggoner/Hurl/Newman rotation. And truth fully i would like to see us start 7 Canadians, though with the ability if we wanted to go with 8. 3 O-lineman, Westerman, Bucknor/Jones and 2 receivers and an all import LB core. We would have a lot of in game flexibility this way. Can roster all the best Canadian LB's for teams and rotation and if offence is struggling can throw an additional import receiver or go with a two import RB set and change an Import LB with one of the Canadians who could essentially be starting

I would be happy with that

Yea, The Greaves going somewhere rumor had no real substance whatsoever. If anyone was to be traded once all things shook out after camp and we could determine that we did have some roster and ratio flexibility with the O-linemen then truth be told it would probably have been Neufeld on the block...not Greaves. If we have learned anything over the last few years it's Greaves is dependable and not prone to missing time. Also been more than adequate and that's been playing alongside garbage that affected his performance. Need to remember he is a D-line convert and learning as he goes...apprenticing on the fly so to speak. So this year, with the dudes beside him his game should elevate and he will and should hit his potential, and next year if our two new recent pics continue to develop and push him out of starters role and we draft and develop another newbie, or acquire via free agency another younger cheaper canuck, well then he can be trade bait for a new need, as he would be a costly 6th or 7th olineman.

me....rest in some cases is welcomed...and needed and common...no biggie

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things, RB's Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision. Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo. Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps. Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows. No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around. Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group. i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do

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Was maybe an under the radar signing but Darvis Adams is smooth..smooth.. And very shifty...Tunie for a big dude is fluid and strong on the ball..I like these guys. And watching the import olineman if I was rating them I'd go Bryant Daniels Lewis File Tyler

Thanks

When is second half of practice today

Yeah I thought I had middle linebacker locked up, and I long snapped since grade 11...am I holding out or on 1 game injured list?

and is Stephan Alli making an appearance in camp this year? Or have Bombers dropped him from any plans?

Also agree if we don't get Demski I wouldn't be too concerned or bothered. Let him cut his teeth and develop for 2 years elsewhere, and if he looks like he is panning out and becoming a legit Canadian star, well pretty sure in free agency we can get him to come home and be the hometown star.

If we don't trade down, what I would think be best course of action is Take Chung at # 2 (if Ottawa takes him which I doubt then Groulx) 11 - whoever is there of Durant or Demski (If neither then I would be looking at either SML or Akie) as either or would both be rostered and contributing this year with limited reps and certainly on teams. 15 - If Byron A is there grab him, Or Blair Smith, and if neither is there take a flyer on a Varga or Boyko If we can do that, the rest is just gravy Save for the signed in the NFL guys I would think the first three would make the active game day roster and contribute this year

Could always go the route of 3 import linebacker if we choose to stick with 2 Canadian receivers, especially if we draft one who steps right up in TC, or one of the incumbents lights it up and takes the next step in being a bonafide Canadian starter. Gives us a lot of options certainly and a 4 import receiving core would be sweet,

Neufeld won't be cut. When not injured he is well above average (and Canadian). If we can acquire the depth on the roster ratio wise he will play and hopefully not get hurt as we are a better o-line with him. He gets hurt then Goosen or another capable canuck steps in, or if ratio allows it an import. If he is to be gotten ridden of it will be via a trade and only a trade that helps the Bombers

and sometimes some of these invites get "un-invited" before camp even takes place in lieu of a better supposed prospect

Hurl will not be the MLB and pretty certain isn't even in any consideration as such. Not sure why people keep thinking and saying that

man this guy's maturity..or lack there of it and "me first" attitude is quite the indicator that I would never want him on my team. Spouting off and making challenges like he is is laughable and I know as a veteran player on if he was on my team he would be sat down and talked to by some of us and put back in his place. He proved last year when going gets tough and adversity pops up he quits..and for being 5 foot nothing and 100 and next to noting he best be keeping his lil yapper closed and play ball....his head should be on a swivel now if he was wise.....friggin tool

Running back would actually have more to learn technique wise, instinct wise and at the pro level...and even NCAA level there are a lot more things that need to just be second nature and don't require a lot of thinking as game is too fast and complex to not have been playing there consistently for a long period of time. He be best suited as the boundary wide out one on one and stretching a defence and or going down field and boxing out a DB (ala Basketball) and winning the jump ball battles. That or coming off the edge as a modified slot/TE where he doesn't need to be a polished route runner initially but a guy who can get the tough yards in traffic

We are not expecting Hurl to be the middle linebacker...not sure why people are so fixated on that

for concrete work in civil jobs there is a spec required for said concrete....when being placed they test for slump, air, temp, make cylinders for breaks (could be 3 sets for 7 day, 14 day 28 day for example) to test the mpa of the concrete. The spec for such a structure I can guarantee was not over looked, or was inadequate when plans went through qa/qc and review. The on-site work and inspection though is a different case all together and if the on-site engineer did not order the tests, review them to make sure they met the spec, or were just ignored and hoped would not lead to issues then yes all that work will be re-done by the contractor/Project Management tandem. We keep records of all this stuff when doing projects for our due diligence and in cases such as this where issues arise. If it comes to light that tests were not done, or the results of test show they didn't meet the specs at time of pour, and after the cylinders were broke, then the blame is soley on the Stuart Olson

I work in the Engineering and Infrastructure Industry and from my take its not so much a design flaw moreso a lot of oversights on some things (due to inexperienced stadium design team) As well it seem's that the on-site Contract Admin/Project Management team and obviously the Site Inspectors and people involved with Quality Assurance and Quality Control really dropped the ball and didn't ensure specs were met and the job was not done for a lack of better words....right. Structurally and for the most part functionally it is fine, but the tight schedule for completion, the fiasco of unrealistic timelines (probably due to inexperience) caused a lot of the cosmetic blemishes and issues with drainage and proper HVAC and sewer/water and other odds and ends to not be properly inspected and deficiencies in meeting specs, grade...etc..etc were either not done, or the prime contractor and Project Management team hushed it to get it done and had fingers crossed that it would never become an issue (at least not within first couple years) For most projects as well there is a warranty period where the contractor is on the hoook to fix resolve problems and issues prior to the client taking over the costs associated with the project (ie..repairs/maintenace/issues) so thats an area as well where Stuart Olsen will be liable for. Regardless of it all it should not be considered a slight to the Blue Bomber organization as they were not to blame for construction issues, but the Board or the group or whoever it was who hired the Designer and Prime Contractors for this project. Was it a case of hiring a cheaper Designer...hiring a friend...whatever the case it's just too bad it happened and puts a bit of a black eye on what is still a great stadium (best in Canada most would say) but get it corrected and be done with it This is common in projects all the time, it's just this one is more of a public issue and a nice media story to cause discussions and finger point

meh...not a big issue...he could still conceivably get released again before main camp even starts

YEAH that Ellingson one is a real head scratcher!