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Poilievre is great for those who are already Conservative voters and will drink whatever Kool-Aid he serves up (Justinflation anyone 😁). I'm not sure he could win over undecided voters when his lies and BS comes under more public scrutiny in an election campaign.

And they won't let the public see the data that suggests this approach is warranted - we just have to trust them. We've had the itchy trigger finger on loosening restrictions before. Pretty much every wave when we see others loosening restrictions. For some reason we've been delayed in our waves compared to other jurisdictions, but don't want to delay reopening. "It seems a bit premature to be on a path to reopen things, particularly as we've lost all situational awareness when it comes to knowing where our cases are coming from, who is most affected, and what the transmission chains are," said University of Manitoba epidemiologist Souradet Shaw. "Hospitalizations are at an all-time high, and ICUs have not yet peaked, so the timing is curious."

Again, it is really weird to put that on Trudeau when the US is at 7%! And we are lower than most other countries in the Europe as well. You are pretty much making the case for why Trudeau is doing a great job handling the economy.

So you're saying 1991? That is the last time we had inflation at 6%. Actually, that was even the last time our inflation numbers hit 5%, so even if you're exaggerating... Again - Canada's inflation numbers are NOT 6%.

Justinflation? lol. He's really got into your heads. Some kind of weird obsession. Have you bothered to check the facts on this, or is it just easier to repeat whatever you hear? Since the start of the pandemic, inflation in the US has been consistently higher than inflation in Canada. Guess what? The gap is growing too. US inflation running at 7% while we are at 4.8%. Or is Trudeau so all-powerful and evil that he is controlling US inflation as well. The interesting thing about the CPC is facts don't matter as long as you are louder and point the finger more intensely at someone else.

This. Most Canadians are opposed to this convoy thing and disrupting life in urban centres and border crossings is likely swaying people even farther against the cause. I'm sure the extremist language and behaviour aren't helping. The CPC response - make Candice Bergen the interim leader who has been heavy in public support for the protests. Surely the undecided voter will love that the leader of the official opposition is highly supportive of this😏

You used to be a staunch Conservative voter, correct? Would you return to the party if they had the right leader? Genuinely curious. I feel like any leader would have an incredibly difficult job uniting both elements of the party. They've fed their followers BS for years (see climate change) and they are dealing with the fall-out of a fairly divided group of voters. Like Noeller, it scares the hell out of me that they chose an interim leader who is an all-out convoy-supporting MAGA clown and they just might come to power somehow (Ontario has elected 2 Ford governments, we chose Pallister twice), but I see uniting the voters on the right as an increasingly difficult task.

If this is any indication as to the direction the party is headed.... It will be nice to see the NDP as the official opposition for a change. Bernier will be right pissed off though.

I think this trucker convoy has been great for Trudeau. Getting people to choose sides between the nutjobs protesting and Trudeau really makes people sympathize with Trudeau. Having F Trudeau signs and convoy leaders open talk about him facing bullets🙄

This is probably what scares me the most. There's already been a bunch of Conservative politicians saddling up besides the nutjobs. They know there is a US vaccine mandate, they know most of the restrictions come at provincial levels. The US could have stopped Trump, but the spineless politicians saw the following he had and hopped on board the crazy train. Shocked that is happening here too.

Hate to inform you - it is definitely not 4 million anymore(more than double now, of which 1 million is already released) - GoFundMe spurred by trucker protest raises $600K for Indigenous water | News (dailyhive.com) There's definitely more money than brains amongst the clan supporters.

I think there are two major differences between protests between pipelines, BLM, environmental/indigenous causes and what is happening here is: 1) This is largely a protest fueled by misinformation. 2) This is largely a protest selfish in nature in that the participants are unhappy with the consequences of their choices and don't believe they should have to face consequences. These are tendencies, so I'm sure there are actors in left-leaning protests that are truly misinformed, just as I'm sure there are some in this protest that are fully vaccinated and understand the impacts on our healthcare system, but genuinely concerned about state power. It is an interesting observation that the roles are largely reversed however.

Exactly what I would think. It definitely could get stronger, but it likely wouldn't select to get stronger transmission>severity. That being said, I once read an opinion that Omicron is expected to infect 3 billion people. Rolling the dice that many times and hoping that it never gets a more severe mutation that is either equally or more transmissible is a bit scary. I think Jeff Goldblum should synthesize experts opinions and present it to the public through his Jurassic Park character. In regards to Tobacco, that is the plant being used to develop the Canadian Medicago vax - Medicago: Plant-based COVID-19 vaccine sees good results | CTV News

I think the only thing we can reasonably predict is that any subsequent variant will be more infectious than the previous, otherwise it wouldn't spread. I guess it could also evolve to develop longer periods where an individual remains infectious as well, while still remaining as infectious. With the amount of vaccinated people becoming infected, I would also guess developing increasing resistance to vaccines would have a good chance of evolving. We can hope that severity wouldn't increase with each mutation, but I'm not sure that is a given. I'd be interested for any articles or interviews on this subject if anyone has any.

FWIW, my doctor told me you can't really gauge the vaccine effectiveness by the amount of antibodies detected in the blood. He told me he got his blood tested specifically after he got the shot and was not showing any antibodies. I have no reason to suspect he was lying or uninformed, but I haven't seen anything to confirm or deny that. The answer was in response to knowing how well I might be protected from the vax given that I likely didn't receive the full effects due to an autoimmune condition.

Today is a really sad day for me. I had hoped what we've seen in the US come to the fore during the Trump years would galvanize us against going down the same road. I had hoped conservative politicians would show leadership and create intentional separation between themselves and the far right. I thought we were better as a country. Nazi flags, partying at the war memorial, Prime Minister needing to be moved, defacing Terry Fox statue - this in a cause that was known to have ties to the far right, yet was encouraged by self-serving politicians with real power in our country. I'm not sure where we go from this level of divisiveness now and I'm genuinely scared for our future.

Daniel McDonald is the chief compliance officer that was also fined along with Stefanson in the link I posted. I'm willing to bet there's a connection here again. If I made a list of the dumbest and most ignorant connections I have on social media, there would be nearly a 100% correlation to the ones posting garbage about the Flu Trux Klan. The inability to engage in any kind of critical thinking is quite depressing.

This isn't the first time she's had issues: IDA fines Wellington West, compliance officer | Investment Executive She's definitely mixed in with a lot of wealth. She should be forgiven for her performance as our premier during Covid - she's obviously got a lot of other things going on that are more lucrative.

Intensive care unit number hits 4th-wave high as Manitoba reports 14 COVID-19 deaths on Thursday | CBC News Pretty disheartening to see that we're up 6 patients in ICU on a day that they announce 14 have passed away from Covid. This is the result of "waiting to see how this plays out". A predictable outcome when hospitalizations and ICU admissions lag infections.

If they want to talk about freedom and equality, use their trucks and loads of free time to bring food to remote First Nations. Donate the money raised to ensure reserves have clean drinking water. A group of entitled people expecting to be free of any responsibility to the rest of society is what this is. Self-victimization and promoting themselves as heroes to Canada. Backed and encouraged by people that know how to manipulate them.

I prefer Flu Trux Klan

I'm sure that some of them are good people, but I've heard some of them yelling racial slurs and personally know a few supporters that have some pretty horrible views on race, homosexuality, etc. etc. I would be shocked if a good contingent of the ones participating did not hold similar discriminatory views. There is surely a strong correlation by right wing extremist views and this convoy. It is unfortunate that they feel powerless in our system, but I put a lot of the blame on dog whistle politics. There has been a lot of window dressing and high risk situations being fully open when other areas face more severe restrictions. I think this has been one reason so many people are sick of restrictions - they often don't make sense "If _______ is open, why can't I __________". Having bars open around Christmas while telling people to only gather with a small amount of family members comes to mind. If they would come right out and say "we are keeping these industries open for economic reasons" that would at least be more acceptable than to just ignore it outright and go ahead with nonsensical restrictions. Both US and Canada require people to be vaccinated to cross the border, are you saying truckers should be exempt from both rules? There's no mandate that truckers get vaccinated anymore than there is for the rest of the population. Is there any other population that you think should be exempt from the rules on both sides of the border? I can see the argument for truckers somewhat, but not for teachers, seeing as they are in one of the most dense workplaces that exist in our society. Having them unvaccinated puts others at heightened risk. The same with healthcare professionals, especially since they are dealing with especially vulnerable people. I don't agree with mandatory/enforced vaccinations, but trying to protect people from the stupidity/selfishness of others makes sense to me. I have no problem with them dealing with the consequences of not getting vaccinated when our healthcare system is being dragged down by them. We'd need way more unvaccinated medical professionals for this to work or accepting that unvaccinated people will get less attention and a lower standard of care. And we'd have to ignore aerosol transmission in buildings. Ignoring the realities of the situation, I think both vaccinated and unvaccinated people should be fine with this.

Poliovirus - Wikipedia Measles - Wikipedia I guess we are not technically 100% done with these viruses, but they are pretty under control. Not saying we can get to the same place with Covid, I have no clue, but effectively wiping out viruses is possible. Genuinely interested to hear how you would like us to approach the virus and restrictions. I'd agree that a lot of what we've been doing lately does not make sense in terms of what is allowed and what isn't if that's all you're saying.

I have a lot of friends on social media who aren't the most intelligent people and they've been promoting the whole convoy / store shelves being empty thing a bunch. Extremely frustrating. If they knew who was backing it and what they stand for, they would quickly change their tune. They're ignorant, not jerks like those behind the protest and many of those in the protest. Unfortunately the situation has been seized upon by some a-holes looking to get their own 'stop the steal' going in Canada and they've done it fairly effectively.

Worker absenteeism — not trucker vaccine mandates — impacting store shelves: Metro (yahoo.com) According to the CEO of a major national retailer, the effects of the trucker vaccine mandates are not the primary reason to blame for inflation and empty shelves at grocery stores - people being affected by Covid is. Unfortunately this does not stop many politicians in Canada from pointing the finger at Trudeau (ignoring that a US vaccine mandate exists) and saying that Trudeau is to blame and he is the one responsible for causing divisiveness amongst Canadians. Totally ignoring that there are more provincial mandates than federal. Incredibly disappointing that we have politicians that see what is going on in the US and realize how much easier it is to manipulate the dumb and ignorant rather than develop policy that is attractive and effective. Andrew Scheer and Pierre Poilievre surely know and understand the situation, but are using the idiocy of those involved to score political points. The same way Mitch McConnel and and Co. are doing in the states. "If you see empty shelves blame Justin Trudeau." 🙄