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How have you decided to blame the coach and not the player for that? Absolutely. Who else is supposed to watch to make sure the players are where they are supposed to be?

Well, there it was. If we needed any more convincing that O'Shea needs to go, that bonehead oversight in not getting his people lined up properly with the game on the line ought to convince all but the delusional.

And that may be an optimistic assessment.

I believe it falls under the "Dey tuk er jerbs!" laws. terk deerrr jeeerrrrbs! Uff da!!!

I expect the team to compete from the opening whistle, leave it all out the field, one play at a time, give it their all, and not quit until the game is over. Did I miss any cliches?

Since this thread seems to be serving as a gameday thread, over at the Stamp's fan forum, the consensus is that they will score about 40 points and the Bombers will rack up no more than 20. Of some note, the recently departed Jasper Simmons was described as a very good rah-rah locker room/sidelines guy who couldn't crack the roster in Cowgary. The speculation was that the Bombers will really miss his energy. Sounds like what many here have been expecting- another blowout.

Can someone donate to that online?

I'm hoping against hope that the Bombers have one upset win in them this year, and that it might be this game. I'd better go now, take my meds and lie down until this passes.

Its getting harder and harder to look forward to games this year with excitement. There may be an Australian Rules Lawn Darts tourney on somewhere. And there's the knitting channel's purling finals from Yorkton Saskatchewan ....

Being able to identify Canadian players as such is a big part of my loyalty to the Bombers and CFL. No Canadian players, little interest- I may as well follow the Arena Football League.

It seems a bit odd for the US government to get all sweaty about this sort of thing, considering the low numbers involved and that the same government had been holding seminars at taxpayer expense to tell American businesses how to move their manufacturing and service jobs offshore.

And some of us are AWOGs (Angry White Old Guys) who need to get worked up about something, for chrissakes.

Yup. Calgary is not the juggernaut they were the last couple of years and very beatable. The difference is the coaching and the number of brain cramps, but we ought to be able to tell pretty soon in the game if the Bombers' hearts are in it.

You are ignoring what I see as key aspects: O'Shea presumably chose his assistant coaches and at least three have proven to be very poor choices. What makes you think he will choose better given another opportunity? He took two months to mull over whether to fire an obviously horrible defensive coach before he pulled the trigger, and then there are his really poor assessments of his quarterbacks and choices of game personnel. Add these up and it sure as spit looks like we need a new head coach. oh noes! Two whole months? also wasnt he essentially saddled with MB? Hall has been outstanding as a DC as well.. he was an O'shea pick i'm assuming? It would depend if one out of three is OK- pretty much like the Bomber win/loss record on his watch.

If the team noise you mean is gagging and retching, then, yes. I'm guessing he was referring to the Jets... I assumed that but since this is a Bomber forum...

Well, physically for sure.

If the team noise you mean is gagging and retching, then, yes.

They have two kickers named Palardy now... the other being an American named Michael. Get ready to hear that fact about 300 times during the next Argo game. Can you imagine if Rod Black is calling the game! No. I refuse to. Its bad enough having to endure him let alone pre-traumatizing myself.

You are ignoring what I see as key aspects: O'Shea presumably chose his assistant coaches and at least three have proven to be very poor choices. What makes you think he will choose better given another opportunity? He took two months to mull over whether to fire an obviously horrible defensive coach before he pulled the trigger, and then there are his really poor assessments of his quarterbacks and choices of game personnel. Add these up and it sure as spit looks like we need a new head coach.

Bottom line: Muamba can chase the NFL dream if he chooses to. We can give a spit or not if we so choose. This has gone on too long and bringing him on board with a fat bonus just to have him bail next year just isn't worth it. Moving on......

There are few Kent Austins or Huffers out there, so I think there is a good case to be made for Tom Higgins as head coach. Look at the sad-sack team he led last year to the playoffs with as bad an assortment of QBs as we had.

Do I detect a hint of fatalism here?

I seem to recall that damned few of the American franchise owners actually paid their franchise fees. One of the few was the chap who owned the Sacramento/Baltimore teams.

A choice of Yugo, Trabant or Lada.

I would see expansion teams in the London, Ontario area and Quebec city before any half-baked US expansion. It was a disaster last time that nearly sank the league.