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Eskimo defence looked rather pedestrian. I always thought they were required to play on foot. Still, Edmonton look like they woke the bear up.

The only thing that's hard to believe is that we didn't try him at Centre earlier. Morely has been the target of a lot of bile on this forum and I was one of his harshest critics. He has been the steadiest and probably the best O-lineman we've had this year, import or not. That it took six years to realize that this was his natural position says an awful lot about the judgement of O'Shea's predecessors.

And I'll bet that Etch invested heavily in Blackberry stock.

I hate the hockey jersey logo on the front look. I don't mind them at all. Simple. Clean. Understated. Not a bad alternate jersey. Way better than most of the other hideous designs.

I agree that we are at real risk of getting our butts kicked at the Banjo bowl, which ticks me off because I bought tickets a month ago in a fit of irrational optimism. I suspect that Willy's ankle is worse than the club is letting on, but maybe because he is essentially a pocket passer that won't be too bad, but our O-line, receivers and run defence are very suspect. We may get to see one of our backup QBs in the second half, but O'Shea hasn't done anything like that to date, even last game when Willy was dinged up.

Surely you jest. He's not jesting and his name is not Shirley.

We seem to have an inordinate amount of frequent fliers on the injury list.

Its not just the yardage given up- it comes down to giving up the yardage at critical times. Had the yards been gained in the first half when the game was still developing, it would have been a different things altogether, but the yards were gained at the end of the game when it really mattered.

But O'Shea supports his DC completely and fully believes the coaching they are doing will overcome the mistakes being made and there is evidence that backs up this stand. I disagree- there is plenty of evidence from the games against Toronto and Sask . Both teams seemed to know that the Bombers were vulnerable to runs up the middle and saved the ploy until the 4th quarter when the game was on the line. Then they pounded it up the middle, ate up the clock and scored to win the games. There is no reason to believe that Sunday will be any different- if anything, the loss of Wild makes the situation even worse. Kuale is a major downgrade from Wild.

And on a related note Rob- Ford has a new campaign slogan:" I may not be the next mayor of Toronto, but I'll always be 12 steps away."

I would be very interested to know how much the league put out for the design fees for the ugly creations.

Our rookie kicker is having a heck of a year and has the field to himself when he performs, but Randle is one of a crowd and gets noticed only when he screws up. He has been more effective than Leggett or Johnson but he's not going to beat out Lirim.

Well, we're not that far away from October 31st.

Curiouser and curiouser...as Alice said

Who says we can't have both? never understood why people think we can only pick up one player I don't know, maybe roster space? They just brought in 3 dlinemen. There's a big difference between brining a guy in for a cup of coffee and one that ends up in the starting lineup, without even getting into cap space and who you cut to make room. Or who suddenly develops a mysterious injury.

I seem to recall that Elliot's problem was that he wouldn't accept direction from the coaches, and given the grade of coaches we had, that may have not been a bad thing. Doug Brown reported that at one point, the defensive coaching was so bad that the D-line and linebackers totally ignored him and decided at the line what they were going to do.

What?I dont know if its grammatically correct. Lol.But both players are burried and forgotten and rotting on the depth chart.... well, like dead. lease on life?? I LOLed anyhow.....so great.This part of the thread totally bottled my mind.. That's a mute point. Uhhhhh.. Nooooooo... It's a moo point.. It's like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. And if it was a mutt point, the dog wouldn't care.

For sure. Also, the Toronto team bidding for the Bills is a long-shot at best. They are literally "Living on a Prayer." A couple of days ago one of the major backers of the move backed out-can't recall who.

Nope not the case. Unless you mistakenly think the run stopping problems are a personnel issue and not a scheme issue. And I do.

I'm not sure about Moseley, but the other two d-linemen recently signed are defensive ends and it seems to me that our problems on our line are in the middle, not the ends. I wonder what the thinking is behind these signings.

You realize he WAS in the CFL, right? He made his name up here.. Now that you mention it, yes I recall, but he still seems the perfect sort of back to carve out a hall of fame career here rather than be another mediocre back in the NFL. Maybe we will still see him in River City.

Thigpen's bio makes him look like a good fit for the CFL- he was 193lb but is probably a bit heavier now. 2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report: Marcus Thigpen, RB, IndianaMarcus Thigpen, who is also a sprinter for the Hoosier track team, isn't one of the elite backs in the country. He is however, always a threat to score every time he touches the ball. Thigpen averaged 6.7 yards per carry this season, even though he only averaged just under 8 carries a game. He also averaged 18.1 yards per reception and 22.4 yards per kick return, further illustrating his game breaking speed. Thigpen played running back in high school and was moved to wide receiver for his freshman season, after red-shirting in 2004. He was moved back to running back during the spring of 2006, and has been Indiana's starter ever since. His experience at receiver has made him a valuable asset in the Hoosier passing attack. He serves as the safety valve for quarterback Kellen Lewis, and has taken several of those check down passes for huge gains. Thigpen has recorded 1621 yards rushing for his career, and scored 9 touchdowns on the ground. He has also caught 84 passes for 1028 yards and scored 9 touchdowns through the air. At 5'9" and only 193 pounds, Thigpen isn't big enough to be an every down back at the next level. However, his big play ability gives him a good chance of making a team as a return man and a third or fourth option in the backfield. Thigpen has averaged over 20 yards per return each of his four seasons, including a national best 30.1 average during the 2006 season. His 3 kick return touchdowns also led the nation in 2006. Thigpen is a late round prospect who should expect to hear his name between the late fifth and late sixth rounds. Marcus Thigpen's Pro Day workout may have shot him into the mid fifth round range for a team looking for a return man. He ran a 4.47 second 40 yard dash, had a 35 inch vertical leap, and broad jumped 10 feet 6 inches. Last Updated Apr-17-2009 by Randall Weida

I haven't seen a Western team, that we've played, that we can't beat. But haven't.

With Moore down hard and neither Romby or Aaron stepped forward to be the go-to guy, we really need a someone with Matthews' talents- he could be the difference between making the playoffs and not.

I wouldn't hold my breath on anything changing. I can see us going 2 - 6 down the stretch mostly due to other teams have figured out our weakness. You're pretty much on the money. If we TKO Sask'n this weekend that all changes but if we succumb to the riders for the 3rd time this year I can only see 2 more wins down the stretch --- thus 8-10 looms and I don't think that will get us 4th in west and the crossover. Unless BC collapses and goes 7-11 with Lulay still not right and Glenn having problems. Must say I love how O'Shea protects his players.... almost indifferent to their weaknesses. At least in public. If he's like that behind closed doors we got problems! We are going to be in tough this weekend because we've lost a couple of key pieces: Wild and Moore, and it looks like Sask will be in good shape. What is going to stop a replay? The additions of Romby Bryant and Kuale?