TrueBlue4ever

A couple of incidents like that. One was when Don Wittman had died and his family was on field for a tribute and a moment of silence. Fans in the student section chanting “Go Bombers go” throughout. You are referencing the Remebrance Day game where someone was chanting during the requested moment of silence for fallen soldiers. Came on Ourbombers saying veterans would applaud him expressing his freedom of speech they fought for instead of being bothered by him not respecting the moment of silence. I think the argument devolved into a debate about whether standing was better than sitting for making noise before said poster conceded they were in the wrong and just attention seeking during the moment of silence and may have been insensitive to the moment. But every fan base has its share of loogans. Some Winnipeggers throw beer cans, some Saskatchewites dump manure on lawns, some Vancouverites and Montrealers riot, some Hamiltonians fight opposing team’s players and coaches, and some Torontonians engage in passive resistance as a form of protest (at least I assume given their conscientious objection to attending games).

I’m pretty confident if I told your veteran parent to go balance a ball on his nose in reference to his service branch, you’d struggle to find the “levity” in that comment, especially since you recognize their sacrifice as you say. If you want to rip a player’s performance, fair game. You want to call out their character for domestic violence, drunk driving, getting busted using steroids, have at it. But no, I’m not going to lighten up because you want to poke fun at someone’s military service by equating it to a circus trick, there’s nothing funny about it, especially as a parting shot.

Nothing like dancing on a guy’s grave on his way out with some cheap pot shots and character assassination of a serviceman. Sometimes I agree that Lyin’ Guy wasn’t far off with his “bunch of assholes” comment. Not upset about the cut from a roster point, but the man came in and did whatever was asked of him and did it competently enough, whatever the assessment of the skill of the position or the utility of the roster spot. And he served his country in the military in an elite service branch that makes him deserving at least of thanks and respect instead of mimicry, and makes him as tough if not tougher IMO than any poster on this site, whether they be ex-football player, gym rat, or keyboard comedian wanting to see circus acts or having a laugh at his expense.

New bodies were what fans on this site were pining for, instead of rolling back the same old vets. We’ll see how that goes this summer.

I thought I read that Brady Oliveira also said the Bombers were pretty quiet about his contract negotiations as well leading up to the tampering week and then Wade Miller got involved and reached out when other offers were coming in.

Maybe they should bring the mentors back for another road trip.

Well I recall certain posters saying that Schoen was fine, moving well, would be in, didn’t need the practice, and even if hurt a bit was valuable enough to dress even as a decoy, so Osh was not alone. Hindsight always 20/20 unfortunately. And with Bailey, Demski, McCrae, BOLO also all beat up, who actually was left to play at receiver if we benched all our hurt players. Sucks but we got bit by the injury bug at the wrong time, had some bad red zone turnovers that cost us, and ran into a team playing over its head at the exact right time of the year for them. Lots of reasons we lost, dressing banged up all-stars was only one of them.

Pretty nice discount he took to stay in Winnipeg. Are people going to forgive him now for his tweet and stop calling him a selfish teammate?

Like 16 for QBs, but also 9 and 12. For running backs, 33.

That’s three shutouts against in the last 7 games.

Was waiting for Pittsburgh to challenge.

Given the traffic on this site today, not sure too many of us were actually “working” while at work.

Now I’m judging you for spending your vacation day in the sun staring at a social media chat site.

Just a reminder that the Grey Cup is in B.C. in a dome this year. Cold weather won’t be a reason for reduced QB performance in the final this year.

Wow. An actual insider who names his sources. Put him on the payroll!

The exact same argument can be made for paying Schoen big dollars. His cap hit would hamstring us even more than Brady in terms of not getting other pieces. Brady’s increase is $115,000 over his last contract. Schoen could be as much as $230,000. And replacing an elite Canadian who put up 1,500 yards, even as a running back, may not be that much easier than replacing a starting American receiver. We already have one under contract in Lawler.

Impossible to truly know if other backs could match Brady’s numbers, but I will offer two things: 1. If we were debating 1,200 yards vs 1,150 or even 1,000 I might buy that. But 1,500 yards is rarified air (as is 2,000 yards from scrimmage) and I think people being irked about Brady’s tweet fuelled a lot of downgrading about how good his year was. 2. The only real fair comparable if we want to say anyone could match Brady’s numbers with this o-line is to look at the last guy who played behind this o-line. Andrew Harris never put up the numbers Brady did last year, and people want him on our Ring of Honour. Put me in the camp that says Brady, especially as a Canadian ratio-breaker, would not have been easily replaced.

American running backs who hit 1,000 yards may be disposable. A Canadian RB who hits 1,500 (and 2,000 from scrimmage) much less so. And if he goes down, we have Another Canadian to step in as well as any American. As for Schoen, we still have Lawler, who is at least his equal production-wise. And many keep saying that Bailey would be a top 2 1,000 yard receiver on any other team, maybe he’ll finally get the chance to meet these fan expectations here if Schoen is gone.

Wait. You led the “This is the year fans will turn on Mike O’Shea, and if he doesn’t change his roster ways Wade Miller should sit him down and tell him his services are no longer needed” after a 15-3 season and losing by a blocked field goal in the Grey Cup, then started a whole thread about getting rid of Zach Collaros, and NOW you are expressing surprise about an entitled and spoiled fan base?

Which is why Atlanta is getting a third look. And why Houston is always mentioned.

We resigned Lawler to a 2 year deal in 2023 reported at the time to be worth $260,000 the first year and $300,000 this season. It has now been re-structured where the now reported $310,000 amount for this year is $285,000 with a $150,000 signing bonus. All numbers courtesy the Winnipeg Sun. So I would say yes, our own GM went there and met the ceiling of $300K for the top receiver when he re-signed last year.

Agree that smart roster building is the way to go, but it only takes one GM to re-set the market (like Jones did with Lawler 2 years ago - $300K is now the accepted ceiling), and all GMs, including Walters, have to work with that standard going forward or risk losing their top guys like Schoen. Add more money available equally for all teams and all that happens is the ceiling for the top guys will go up as the bidding wars increase. A marquee player rule will not change that reality. And every club, including the Bombers, will overpay depending on their current state (think Travis Bond when we needed to climb out of our hole).

Your financial logic makes no sense when you say there won’t be any increased salaries. Right now let’s say the cap is $5 million for all 45 players on your roster, which includes your top player let’s say at $500,000. Your total budget for player salaries is $5 million. If you add the marquee player rule, then you have $5 million now for 44 players, who currently cost you $4.5 million, plus your $500K marquee. Teams are not going to continue to spend only up to $4.5 million for their 44 player roster, they are going to spend the “extra” $500K to afford the Schoens and Oliveiras and Betts of the league. Any team that puts in a self-imposed cap of $4.5 million instead of spending to $5 million will be left behind at free agency time and be forced excoriated by their fan base. All the while the market is re-set because someone will pay an extra $50K for Schoen or an Oliveira or a Betts because they now have that extra cash, so a $300,000 ceiling for a receiver jumps to $350,000, running back jumps to $250,000, and Canadian linebacker star or front line defensive player jumps to $300,000. But you still have to account for your marquee player in your salary budget. So even if the cap is frozen at $5 million, your salary budget will jump to $5.5 million, because you still have to pay the marquee player, He won’t count against the cap, but he will count against your total salaries paid out. Suddenly every team’s salary expenses budget has jumped 10%. And maybe with QB likely being the cap exempt spot, those salaries go back up to $750,000 since that was where the market was set before. And the following year, if the cap stays frozen, you have the same $5 million available to spend on your 44 players that you spent on them this year, and you have already assigned your marquee salary to the 45th, so next year you have the same problem you have now of having no extra money to offer the next wave of players who want increases, because you are already up against the cap. This is not the NHL where you sign players to longer contracts and have to stay below the ceiling to fit in future salaries while paying out your current players. The CFL is the home of the one year contract (and the terminated without consequence contract), so it is harder to retain your core when other teams can outbid you for that one big free agent who wants a raise and would throw your current salary structure out of whack with the jump they deserve, because it forces cuts elsewhere. The marquee player rule will not solve that dilemma, it will just increase the salary budget by the amount of the marquee contract, while the rest of the 44 man roster will adjust upwards to fill up the total cap space. If my analysis (or JBR’s or Jesse’s) is wrong, please explain it to me. If Speed’s or Booch’s is incorrect, maybe someone else give it a shot explaining it to them.

If the cap is $5 million for 45 players this year, and then $5 million for 44 players next year, then sure next year you will have an extra $600,000 for those 44 players with your marquee player rule removing that one salary. And teams will still spend to that $5 million for those 44 players next year. The problem then surfaces again in two years time when you need to give raises, you are at the $5 million cap for your 44 players, have already assigned the marquee exemption to a player, and there is no extra money for raises. Your marquee rule only defers the problem for one season, then you are back where you started. Your extra $600,000 is only a one season correction, it won’t give you an extra $600,000 every year.