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This feels like “out goes Trump, Mike Pence now in charge”

I’ve had my handle since before he started playing, and had the jersey number since Darvin Adams wore it. Biggie and I settled out of court last year.

I would claim copyright infringement if they used the number.

The way Hecht’s arm was dangling when he came off I thought dislocated shoulder. But given how he was moving it around, I thought if they popped it back in, he is showing no ill effects. Given what others saw, concussion protocol makes sense. I suspect in a tight game, he and Hardrick go back in. But as much as it bothers some fans who hate common sense and foot off the gas, resting them and coasting was the proper move.

I disagree. Blown coverage on Walker’s first TD, dropped an INT, and mid-read the play and went for the pick instead of the man which led to the Edwards TD

For serious: 1. Harris - just a beast. 2. Whitehead - a threat to score every time he touches the call it seems 3. Jeffcoat - constant pressure, got jobbed on a couple of sacks. H.H. - Nichols went out to throw a block when Harris reverses field. Harris recognized his QB was going to put himself in peril and cut back inside for 14. Honourable mentions: Thomas Miles making special teams tackles all over the place, and the whole s-line for that goal line stand to keep it a 3 score game. Goat: Lawler makes a great catch and then forgets that this isn’t college and you don’t blow the play dead when you hit the turf without contact, and gets up to signal first down instead of securing the ball. He almost made up for it with a great toe drag end zone catch that I thought was at least worth a challenge.

And by the skin of their teeth, they get that score

Give the Argos this much credit. Unlike B.C. last night, they haven’t rolled over and quit.

Ok, it’s only half time, but i’ll Start it now. 1. Bomber special teams 2. Bomber offence 3. Bomber defence H.H. The New Era guys who designed the new uniforms for this game. Bomber Blue and Argo baby blue numbers and socks made for appealing visuals tonight.

So, after 1 quarter, does anyone NOT have their lock of the week?

5 minutes in, the Bombers have 5 yards offence and 23 seconds of possession. Nichols sucks! 🤣

Apparently I was. Carry on, nothing to see here. What a disgraceful effort. OK, losing is one thing, but this is the second time in 4 weeks they just folded their tents and quit against the Eskies. Won't say the entire team yet, but they need about 25 heart transplants on that Lions squad right now.

Wade Miller tipped off fans at the "You Make The Call" event that theses were coming and swore everyone in attendance to secrecy. I ran into him at the home opener and asked where they were. He said they needed a couple more weeks to roll them out and I said "Dammit Wade, this secret-keeping is killing me!!!!" Have to admit, they are a neat idea, but this flag almost ruined it for me. Had a PTSD flashback to 2001 when I saw it.

Beyond that, the level of overpay was equally foolish. Lions knew both Chungh (local boy) and Reilly (return to his first team with his old GM) were coming home well before free agency started and wouldn't sign elsewhere. Could have probably shaved $50,000 off of Chungh's salary and $50-75,000 (maybe even $100,000) off of Reilly's and still easily got them to sign. Really bad cap management.

This statement feels like something that would have been said after the loss in Edmonton in week 2. The fact that they showed up even less at home after they quit in the earlier game in Edmonton is inexcusable. There has got to be cuts coming after that performance.

The Pylons The Turnstiles Open Door Policy The Mild Bunch The Gift That Keeps On Sieving (I may have tried too hard with that one) Sieve And Let By Ole Pu-trids On The Block

Dirty hit by Tuck on the punt cover. Leads with the head into the back of a downed player.

Brandon Dyson And old school - Angelo Mosca

Let me just interject here and say THIS is what a good football forum offers. Lots of differing opinions, disagreement between posters, but civil discussion and lots of intelligent thoughts and valid arguments on all sides, regardless of your stance. I have enjoyed the debate on this topic. You stay classy, San Diego!

This topic could have the makings of a poll question. Two more for you. Ed Philion. Nick Benjamin.

I guess my comments are in response the original post comment that this method would "settle arguments" or that Nichols is "having a bad year". I'm not sure how this system objectively or consistently measures good vs bad, so I don't see it as a valuable tool. Maybe a throw in the dirt is accurate because the QB wanted to keep it low to avoid the knockdown or INT, and was simply trying for a first down and not a 35 YAC yard type of play. Only the QB will truly know where they intended for the pass to go compared to where it ended up. Ricky Ray was a master at lofting the high sideline ball where only his receiver had a play on it, incredibly accurate to my mind, but who can say how Ferguson would rank it? (receiver had to go and get a ball in a tough spot, bad throw? - maybe it's meant to be in a tough spot so the defender also has a tough time getting to it). My "deep balls preference" theory is based solely on the limited examples Ferguson uses to outline his criteria, and he mentions low or behind the receivers throws as bad, and uses video of YAC yards catches as good, so I am only guessing based on what he provided as his measuring stick. Again, his lack of a clear consistent metric beyond "this looks good to me" diminishes the objective credibility of his rankings. A better way? Well, incorporating completion percentage would be a great start. I think we can all agree that a QB who threw at an 80% completion rate was more accurate than one who threw 50% on an objective basis of measurement. Maybe award higher points for longer completions. A QB who throws 70% overall, but is 13/13 in throws between 0-10 yards, 6/10 in throws from 10-20 yards, and 2/7 in throws over 20 yards may not be as highly ranked for accuracy as one who with a 66.6% completion rate but is 3/3 from 0-5 yards, 5/7 from 10-20 yards, and 12/20 from 20+ yards. Just as an example. Hey, it's his thing, and kudos for thinking outside the box in finding a way to crunch numbers to evaluate QBs, but it seems too subjective and impossible to verify through consistent data to be taken as a way to rank QB performance fairly. Just my opinion.

Any reason, given the big yards he has thrown for this year so far, to think that he won't go off?

But BC didn't try to establish the run game the last time, and they seemed to have learned their lesson since in diversifying their playbook. But yeah, the Edmonton pressure will have to be much better handled for sure.

Here is my issue with it - he is using a subjective "eye test" to decide personally what "looks like" a good pass to him, and giving it a grade. Now, he may have no skin in the game and will rank QBs evenly based on the throw and not the thrower, but if he doesn't prefer a certain style of pass, it will hinder the scoring for that QB. Using an efficiency rating (where Nichols is at 120.7 and #1 in the league for QBs with more than 50 pass attempts, and only behind Arbuckle for QBs with more than 6 attempts) incorporates raw data like completion percentage, TD/interception ratio, yards per pass and yards per attempt to determine a more objective number that more properly ranks QBs equally for the metric it tries to define. Streveler rates higher, and Nichols should rate highly because they use a short passing game with lots of short passes to the running backs, and those should be easier to throw than than crossing route into a seam between multiple defenders. But looking at some of the examples of what Ferguson grades his passes on, he seems to like the deeper downfield throws. As an example, Mike Reilly likes to throw up the jump ball passes and let his tall receivers out-duel the shorter defensive backs on what we call "50/50 balls". But it's easy to say that the pass is accurate, because it is not behind there receiver or low, which he likes to pick on. And how many times do we see a receiver change their running pace to "slow down" or adjust to the ball in the air, to be able to speed up and the last moment to gain separation form the defender or catch the ball in stride. That may translate into an accurate pass, but how much of that is on the QB hitting the target perfectly and how much is on the receiver adjusting to the ball in flight to "move the target" and meet the ball? YAC yards seems to be a big thing based on Ferguson's "eye test" metric (because to him the perfect pass is hitting the receiver in stride so they don't have to change their route). I think of 3 passes in particular Nichols threw in the last game, two I believe came on the drive where Hardrick took the roughing penalty, that would be subject to a low grade but in my mind were put exactly where Nichols wanted them to be. The first pass was a sideline throw to Darvin Adams for about a 25 yard gain on 2nd and 10, where Adams made a great leaping catch. That would rank low on the rating scale because Adams had to adjust to the high wide ball and made no YAC yards, might score a 1 or 2. But Nichols put the ball where no other player was going to be able to make a play on it, so if Adams doesn't make the catch it falls incomplete out of bounds, and maybe Nichols trusts that Adams can make the high catch, so puts it up there for him rather than risking hitting him in stride down the sideline where a defender might step in front of it for an INT. Much safer than a Mike Reilly rainbow toss 40 yards down the middle of the field into double coverage where Duke Williams out jumps the corner and the safety, but the throw could be more "accurate" since it hits the target zone, but could be picked off more easily if not for the athleticism of his receiver. That to me is a flaw in the judgment system Ferguson employs. The second pass was to Drew Wolitarsky. Nichols threw a dart over the middle that Wolitarsky went down to the turf to catch. Will score maybe at best a 2 because the receiver got zero YAC yards and had to go low to scoop the ball off the turf. But looked at another way, Nichols again puts the ball where only his receiver can make a play on it, threading a needle with defenders close by. And it went for 9 yards when the Bombers needed 8 for a first down. To me that is a perfectly placed ball, but according to Ferguson's video examples, that would be a bad pass. Wolitarsky makes a very nice catch, but was it a bad throw he had to go down for, or was it meant to be a low pass designed for Drew to go low and secure the first down with zero risk of interception if he can't squeeze it? The last throw was the called back TD to Adams. Could score high because Nichols led the receiver and hit him in stride, or could score low because it was "too far in front" of Adams, and only the brilliant one-handed catch saves the off-target throw. Who, other than Ferguson, can say? Or does it even count because the penalty wiped out the pass altogether? So it might be a nice idea, but unless Ferguson wants to justify his scoring on every pass publicly, all he is doing is assigning his own subjective ranking system of what in his mind makes a good pass, with no real consistent real raw data to validate his opinions.