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Maybe set a percentage limit (like 80%) that you can spend to the cap before the season starts, so that you can accommodate mid-season changes due to injury or in-season signings, with every salary counting even if you cut the veteran player mid-season.

In 2013 the Roughriders went over the cap, were fined just over $17,000 for it, were stuck with a bunch of back loaded contracts (otherwise they would have been way over the cap and lost draft picks too) that led to a 3-15 season in 2015. Oh, and they won the Grey Cup at home in 2013 and generated a $9 million profit for the game, and $10.4 million overall for that year. Given the meagre penalties in place for cap violation, the ability to instantly re-build your team, and the profit generated from a Grey Cup winning season, why wouldn't EVERY team violate the cap? If you want to prevent cap abuse, then nullify contracts at the outset if they create a situation that the team goes over.

Here are the bios: *statistics incomplete, best I could find with documentation Lirim Hajrullahu – 35 games in 2 seasons (2014-15), 46/53 converts (86.8% - best 96.9% in 2014), 62/78 FG (79.5% - best 87.0% in 2014: club #2 all-time), 5 FG singles, long 53, 123 KO, 7754 yds., 63.0 avg. (best 63.3 avg. in 2015), 5 KO singles, long 95, 250 pts. (best 159 in 2014), led Western Division with 159 pts. in 2014 (club rookie record) Gerry James – 145 games in 11 seasons (1952-62), kicked from 1957-62, 116/146 converts (79.5% - best 87.2% in 1962), 35/66 FG (53.0% - best 66.7% in 1957-58), 17 FG singles, long 29*, 151 KO, 8246 yds., 54.6 avg. (best 60.4 avg. in 1962), 2 KO singles, long 86, 240 pts. (best 86 in 1962 – had 131 in 1957 including TDs), 4 time team nominee Most Outstanding Canadian (1954, 55, 57, 60), 2 time CFL Most Outstanding Canadian (1954, 57), divisional all-star 1955, 57, coaches all-star 1958, led Western Conference in scoring 1957, 60, 6 Grey Cup appearances (1953, 57-59, 61, 62), 4 time grey Cup champion (1958, 59, 61, 62), CFL Hall of Fame Don Jonas – 54 games in 4 seasons (1971-74), 97/106 converts (91.5% - best 93.8% in 1972), 38/75 FG (50.7% - best 66.7% in 1972), 20 FG singles, long 42*, 9 KO, 521 yds., 57.9 avg. (best 57.9 avg. in 1971), 0 KO singles, long 90, 231 pts. (best 97 in 1971 – had 121 that year including TDs), 2 time team nominee Most Outstanding Player(1971, 73), CFL Most Outstanding Player 1971, 2 time divisional and CFL all-star (1971, 72), led CFL in scoring in 1971 Greg Kabat – 44* games in 8 seasons (1933-40), 84* pts. (best 33* in 1939), 4 time divisional all-star (1934, 38-40), 4 Grey Cup appearances (1935, 37-39), 2 time Grey Cup champion (1935, 39), CFL Hall of Fame Trevor Kennerd – 187 games in 12 seasons (1980-91), 509/511 converts (99.6% - best 100% ten times), 394/592 FG (66.6% - best 80.0% in 1983), 131 FG singles, long 55, 867 KO, 48657 yds., 56.1 avg. (best 58.4 avg. in 1982), 18 KO singles, long 95, 1840 pts. (best 198 in 1985 – CFL record at that time), 3 time divisional all-star (1981, 83, 85), 2 time CFL all-star (1981, 85), led club in scoring 11 times, 2 time CFL scoring leader (1981, 85), #2 all time in club scoring, club record 9 converts in one game, club record 7 field goals in one game, 3 Grey Cup appearances and 3 time champion (1984, 88, 90) Bud Korchak – 82 games in 6 seasons (1949-54), 76/96 converts (79.2% - best 93.5% in 1953), 17/35 FG (48.6% - best 66.7% in 1952), 10 FG singles, long 44*, 155 KO, 8071 yds., 52.1 avg. (best 52.4 avg. in 1952), 3 KO singles, long 80, 140 pts. (best 61 in 1953 – had 69 in 1952 including TDs), 3 time divisional all-star (1951-53), led Western Conference in scoring 1953, 2 Grey Cup appearances (1950, 53) Justin Medlock – 53 games in 3 seasons (2016-18), 137/138 converts (99.3% - best 100% two times), 158/185 FG (85.4% - best 89.4% in 2018: both club records), 3 FG singles, long 58 (club record), 254 KO, 16822 yds., 66.2 avg.: club record (best 66.7 avg. in 2016: club record), 11 KO singles, long 95, 633 pts. (best 227 in 2016 – club record), 2016 divisional, CFL and CFLPA all-star as a kicker, 3 time team nominee for Most Outstanding Special teams player (2016-18), 2016 CFL Special Teams Player of the year, 2 time CFL scoring leader (2016, 17), club record 7 field goals in one game (3 times), holds or shares 9 club records in all (also most field goals and field goal attempts in a season in addition to those already listed) Justin Palardy – 53 games in 4 seasons (2010-13), 102/102 converts (100% - best 100% 4 times), 114/139 FG (82.0%: #2 club all-time - best 86.7% in 2010, 12), 13 FG singles, long 51, 212 KO, 11903 yds., 56.1 avg. (best 57.3 avg. in 2012), 5 KO singles, long 91, 462 pts. (best 165 in 2011), Grey Cup appearance 2011 Bernie Ruoff – 77 games in 5 seasons (1975-79), 148/152 converts (97.4% - best 100% in 1979), 148/245 FG (60.4% - best 75.0% in 1979), 50 FG singles, long 58 (club record), 324 KO, 18961 yds., 58.5 avg. (best 62.9 avg. in 1976), 9 KO singles, long 95, 673 pts. (best 151 in 1979), 1979 team nominee for Most Outstanding Canadian player Alexis Serna – 42 games in 3 seasons (2008-10), 94/94 converts (100% - best 100% three times), 82/114 FG (71.9% - best 81.6% in 2009), 18 FG singles, long 54, 204 KO, 11770 yds., 57.7 avg. (best 58.8 avg. in 2008), 3 KO singles, long 95, 368 pts. (best 161 in 2009) Troy Westwood – 293 games in 18 seasons (1991-2007, 09) (#2 club all-time for both), 732/734 converts (99.7% - best 100% fifteen times), 617/853 FG (72.3% - best 80.4% in 1993), 110 FG singles, long 57, 1291 KO, 74093 yds., 57.4 avg. (best 62.9 avg. in 2007), 28 KO singles, long 95, 2748 pts. (best 213 in 1994 – #3 club all-time, club record 3 seasons over 200 points), 3 time divisional all-star (1992-94), 1992 CFL all-star, team nominee for Outstanding Special Teams Player in 2003, 2 time team nominee for Most Outstanding Canadian Player (1992, 2003), led club in scoring 16 times, 2 time Eastern Division scoring leader (1992, 93), led CFL in scoring 3 times (1994, 2002, 03), all time leader in club scoring, holds or shares 17 club records including 5 single season records, CFL record 661 consecutive converts, 4 Grey Cup appearances (1992, 93, 01, 07)

OK, if not noticed, Bud Grant was the all-time coach choice, and Cal Murphy the all-time GM choice, and the punting voting is in, and to no one's surprise, Bob Cameron is the viewer's choice award winner, easily outpacing Jon Ryan who at least got 3 votes. everyone else was shut out. On to the kickers, which I am posting now with their bios. Voting will run until Sunday night. And it is time to consider the return game. I will list both punt and kick returners here, so please forward nominees for both categories. Off the top of my head: For punt returners - Jovon Johnson, Paul Bennett, Gord Rowland, Ron Latourelle, Kevin Fogg, Henry Janzen, Troy Stoudemire For kick returners - Leo Lewis, Dave Raimey, Tom Scott, Demond Washington, Ryan Lankford, Paul Williams, Mack Herron, and since he holds 2 club records I feel obliged to throw out the name Quincey McDuffie (the T.J. Heath of this group) Dual threat (and also missed FG returner) - Charles Roberts, Keith Stokes, Eric Blount, Albert Johnson III, Maurice Leggett

I get the reference, not slagging the choice, just said it was interesting.

Interesting song choice, given all the tunes with "New York" in their title.

With free agency coming up, we should clarify one thing: to resign is to quit something (see Goosen, Matthias) to re-sign is to enter into a new contract with your current employer (see Bighill, Adam)

In order - it is just you, no he hasn’t, and no he isn’t. Matt Nichols took a lot of crap on this board at times last year (I was not exempt from getting on him when he complained about the boos), but when it’s -30 outside and many Americans head south ftom the day the season ends to the start of trading camp, here’s our offensive leader giving back to the community and doing more than just a quick autograph session for a fee. I’m impressed to see him engage on a personal level with the Brandon fans. Kudos to him!

That was my original plan, but don't want anyone to feel slighted if they suggest a player.

I kid, of course. But I was asked to put in a number of candidates, and so I did. So to shut down voting right away after one vote (and the time it took to compile the stats) seemed a little presumptuous. But no other punter had a mural of him painted on the side of the team’s stadium. Like I said, we won’t need a full week of voting here.

Ummm...........

Thanks, King Trump, but I'll let others vote too if that's OK.

One man's take: OK, a nice list of names provided by Speed Flex and Stats Junkie to consider, and this pretty much covers the Bombers history of punters. But this boils down to Bob Cameron vs. who anyone will try to pump up to justify bumping Cameron out. So let's knock them off one by one: Casey - again, this guy did it all, offence, defence, special teams, and excelled everywhere, but never the absolute best at any one position. Delveaux - punted in the glory years, 3 rings to his credit and a very impressive average for an era when punting was not the specialized craft it is now. Still, no more rings than Bob had. Jacobs - more than just a spot duty punter, but split duties with Casey, and he is more deserving of consideration in the QB list McKee - punter in the club's dead era of 1972-74 ,average numbers, never made all-star, so not even the best in his era. Nope (sorry ISO). Medlock - does a very serviceable job, and has added that funky end over end Aussie rules kick to his repertoire, but when we think of him, we think placekicker, not punter Rebholz - another jack-of-all-trades player who excelled at many positions in the club's first dynasty in the 1930's. Sorry, they didn't keep stats back then Renaud - It takes big shoes to replace both a legend and a phenom, so give Renaud props for giving the club some stability post-Cameron and Ryan, and outkicking Westwood in the process. Some solid years, but not in the upper echelon of all-timers Ruoff - some very gaudy stats here, but strikes against him are (a) his split duties as a place kicker make his punting feel like an add-on rather than his specialty, (b) his greatest success punting came after his trade to Hamilton, so his accomplishments here pale a bit in comparison, and (c) in case some of you don't know, his departure from the Peg was quite the scandal, after he was caught imbibing in the wacky weed (it was a different time - "Reefer Madness", anyone?), and his criminal charge for marijuana possession was a one-way ticket out the door which tainted his legacy here (Jack Wells inevitably would ask after every Bomber game vs. the Ticats "What was that chant that came up every time Hamilton punted?" like he forgot that the "BER-NIE, BER-NIE" taunt was a reminder of how he got run out of town - ah, Cactus, don't ever change, even in the next life) Shepard - again, split duties with Delveaux and was better known as a running back, but he is tied for longest punt in club history, and is only one of two Bombers ever to lead the league in punting average in a single season (that's the most amazing stat I found researching this stuff, given that it happened only twice in the 68 years of recorded stats in a 9 team league for the most part) Ulmer - like Renaud, has some good tenure numbers and very serviceable, but won't crack the all-timer list So that leaves the phenom to strake his claim. Jon Ryan was way too good for this league, and the fact that he holds the all-time single season average is especially impressive given where half of his punts took place. Unlike the cozy dome in BC where Lui Passaglia first cracked the 50 yard barrier, Ryan kicked at the wind and ice bowl of Canadinns, where his average would dip a few yards once October arrived, the air got colder, and the ball started to freeze. Ryan's average most of that unreal 2005 season was hovering around 54.0 yards, and watching him launch moon shots every time was must see TV. Anything under 55 yards on the fly was a disappointment, he was good for at least one 65 yarder a game it seemed, and it wasn't just driving for distance - his hang time was astounding too. If we are talking the best pure punter to ever pull on the Blue and Gold, he outdistances any challenger, and...............ah, who am I kidding???? Cameron wins this almost on longevity alone. His legend was ensured in the 1988 Grey Cup, where the semi-insulting qualifier of his abilities by broadcasters as the "best bad weather punter" or "best into the wind punter" in the CFL was proven, as his sheer dominance over Passaglia tilted the field position all game and earned him Outstanding Canadian player honours in the big game, the only time I can recall that award going to a pure punter (other kickers who split duties as punter and kicker have won). Amazingly, he never led the league in average ever in 23 seasons (likely because of the adverse conditions he faced at Canadinns), but he was never seriously challenged for his job the whole time he was here, and "The Canadian Rifle" (he was the starting QB at Acadia in his University years for the uninformed), was very adept at the trick play, and was an extra coach for Cal Murphy on any special teams situation. Arguably belongs on the Mount Rushmore of Bomber players (more on that topic when we finish off this poll).

Sorry about the delay, real life intervened. Polling will close on Sunday at midnight, don't think we'll need that long on this one. Here are the bios: Bob Cameron – 394 games (CFL #2 all time) in 23 seasons (1980-2002), 3129 punts (CFL #2 all time), 134301 yards (CFL record), 42.9 avg., 95 long (twice – tied for club record), 134 singles, 4/4 converts, best season 46.9 avg. in 1983 (#2 in club history), 11/24 passing, 176 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT., 45.8%, 1 rush, 8 yards, 0 TD, 10 special teams tackles, 6 time divisional all-star (1984, 88-90, 93, 95), 4 time CFL all star (1988-90, 93), 2 time team nominee for Most Outstanding Canadian player (1988, 98), Most Outstanding Canadian player in 1988 Grey Cup, 3 Grey Cup appearances and 3 time champion (1984, 88, 90), CFL Hall of Fame, CFL record 188 punts and 8126 yards in 1988, 353 consecutive games played Tom Casey – 83 games in 6 seasons (1950-55), 139 punts, 5754 yards, 41.4 avg., 78 long, 6 singles, best season 42.7 avg. in 1955, 6 time divisional all-star (1950-55), 2 Grey Cup appearances (1950, 53), CFL Hall of Fame Jack Delveaux – 65 games in 6 seasons (1959-64), 227 punts, 9552 yards, 42.1 avg., 84 long, 19 singles, best season 44.8 avg. in 1963, 3 Grey Cup appearances and 3 time champion (1959, 61, 62) Jack Jacobs – 74 games in 5 seasons (1950-54), 518 punts, 21248 yards, 41.0 avg., 88 long, 55 singles, best season 43.9 avg. in 1952, 3 time divisional all-star (1950-52), 2 Grey Cup appearances (1950, 53), CFL Hall of Fame Walt McKee – 48 games in 3 seasons (1972-74), 379 punts, 16111 yards, 42.5 avg., 83 long, 13 singles, best season 44.2 avg. in 1973 Justin Medlock – 53 games in 3 seasons (2016-18), 312 punts, 13600 yards, 43.6 avg., 85 long, 5 singles, best season 44.5 avg. in 2018, 0/1 passing, 0 yards, 2016 divisional, CFL and CFLPA all-star as a kicker, 3 time team nominee for Most Outstanding Special teams player (2016-18), 2016 CFL Special Teams Player of the year Russ Rebholz - 6 seasons (1933-38), no statistics available, 3 time divisional all-star (1934-36), 3 Grey Cup appearances (1935, 37, 38), 1935 Grey Cup champion, CFL Hall of Fame Mike Renaud – 86 games in 6 seasons (2009-14), 671 punts, 28490 yards, 42.5 avg., 79 long, 29 singles, 4/4 converts, best season 43.9 avg. in 2013, 2/5 passing, 38 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT., 40.0%, 2 rush, 28 yards, 0 TD, 10 special teams tackles, 2010 divisional all-star, 2011 Grey Cup appearance Bernie Ruoff – 77 games in 5 seasons (1975-79), 621 punts, 27926 yards, 45.0 avg., 81 long, 22 singles, best season 46.9 avg. in 1978 (#2 in club history), 2 rushes, 40 yards, 0 TD, 1979 team nominee for Most Outstanding Canadian player Jon Ryan – 36 games in 2 seasons (2004-05), 236 punts, 11062 yards, 46.9 avg. (club record), 92 long, 18 singles, best season 50.6 avg. in 2005 (CFL record), 0/1 passing, 0 yards, 4 rushes, 52 yards, 2 special teams tackles, 2005 divisional, CFL and CFLPA all-star, 2005 team nominee for Most Outstanding Canadian player and Most Outstanding Special Teams player, led CFL in punting avg. in 2005 (50.6 avg.) Charlie Shepard – 73 games in 6 seasons (1957-62), 521 punts, 22995 yards, 44.1 avg., 95 long (tied for club record), 53 singles, best season 45.4 avg. in 1961, 6/9 passing, 101 yards, 2 TD, 1 Int., 66.7%, 1959 divisional all-star, 5 Grey Cup appearances (1957-59, 61, 62) 4 time Grey Cup champion (1958, 59, 61, 62), 1959 Grey Cup MVP, led CFL in punting avg. in 1960 (44.8 avg.) Ed Ulmer – 99 games in 7 seasons (1965-71), 758 punts, 31668 yards, 41.8 avg., 91 long, 35 singles, best season 43.0 avg. in 1968, 1/1 passing, 25 yards, 0 TD, 6 rushes, 26 yards, 1 TD, 1 reception, 8 yards, 0 TD, 1966 divisional and CFL all-star

He should cramp up before every game.

I will work on the bios today and have the lists out. Not sure about Serna, but I will add him, but then Hajrullahu could be added too (best all-time single season field goal percentage in club history, st least before Medlock)

Not just the West. Loffler has been the CFL all-star every year since he joined the league (and CFLPA all-star the last 2 years). So he is the best that is out there, but no safety is getting $200K.

Loffler took a roughing penalty for a helmet to helmet hit on that play. Instead of it being 3rd down, Leos got an automatic 1st down. The next play they punched in a touchdown. We lost that game by 2 points.

Remember, God created the platypus, so it shows s/he has a sense of humour.

Jets' 10 game and monthly splits this year: 1-10: 6-3-1 Oct: 7-4-1 11-20: 6-3-1 Nov: 7-4-1 21-30: 7-3-0 Dec: 11-4-0 31-40: 6-4-0 Jan: 7-4-0 with 1 game to go. 41-50: 7-3-0 Pretty consistent for all of teeth gnashing by fans this year.

Maybe we should have a little MBB Oscar contest to see who can call the most winners correctly. I sadly have no prize for the winner, other than bragging rights to the victor. Any interest?

"A Star is Born" sure has lost all of its momentum in the Oscar race. It was the clear-cut favorite when it came out, now it will be hard pressed to win anything other than Best Song. And I'll say now if "Black Panther" wins Best Picture then the Academy's attempt to be more inclusive will have severely overreached.

Got my tickets already. Glad that my kids both want to go and see this.

When the Moose returned the Jets were still a very hot ticket, and with the wait list, some fans saw a Moose season ticket as (a) the only alternative to see hockey, and (b) a way to get a leg up on other fans in the queue. But Jets tickets are much easier to come by now for the casual fan, and I know a bunch of Jets' season ticket holders who were stung by how expensive the playoff games were. I had one friend who sold one playoff game to basically fund the rest of the playoff series for herself, and then sold another couple of playoff games to help afford this year's season tickets. And I have at least a dozen friends who are positing tickets for sale for this year's games to recoup the cost of last year's playoffs. In the past I might see two or three offers for tickets a year, this year I could get tickets to every single game quite easily through those channels (people who put up one or two games for sale are now putting up 10-15 games a year). The upshot is that as the Jets become more accessible, the Moose crowd prefer to go to a few Jets games rather than a season's worth of Moose games. I think adding a WHL team will either fail or sink the Moose. Don't see 3 hockey teams co-existing in Winnipeg.

One man's take: COACH - Dave Ritchie - Pulled this team from the abyss and helmed one of the great all-time seasons in 2001 that should have resulted in a Grey Cup win. Loyal to his players to a fault, which allegedly led to a split in the locker room between various factions at the end of his tenure, and he always regrets talking his foot off the gas in '01 to rest players (although that bit him in '02 losing Stegall to injury in game 18). He will be #5 in this group. Mike Riley - Younger than more than a few of his veteran squad when he was hired, and many believed it was actually Cal Murphy pulling the strings from behind the curtain as "silent coach", but no one was more adored by his players, or the fan base for that matter. He pre-emptive departure after the '88 season was heartbreaking for many Bomber fans, and his return was feted, especially after the 1990 Grey Cup triumph. The exception to the rule that nice guys finish last. In this case, he is #4, but I like the idea of him being the defensive coordinator of the coaching staff. Reg Threllfall - When your worst season is a .750 winning percentage, you are in rarified air. And it took a wonky rules debate to keep the Bombers out of the 1940 Grey Cup (different league rules between the Western Football Conference and the Ontario Rugby League and the league decided to ban the Bombers from playing in the title game because of it, in spite of the fact that they were allowed to be there the previous two years and the year following), so only a technicality keeps him from getting his team to 4 consecutive Grey Cups (and possibly winning 3 in a row). Give him a longer tenure than 4 years, and his numbers would top Grant or Murphy, and I'd wager he wins this poll. OK, only 2 coaches have statues outside of IGF, so really this has always been a 2 man contest. Cal Murphy deserves a lot of love for many reasons. Native Winnipegger in a league where Canadian head coaches were rare, he knew how to extract the very best from all his players. It was his nuance of the game that stood out. Bob Cameron said he had more of a feel for in game management than any other coach he had seen. Murphy always knew there exact time to call a certain play, especially the surprise gadget ones. Not always loved by his players, but boy did they show up for him. Case in point the mutiny in 1991 when the players whined about the shoddy conditions at CanadInns and how Murphy ran the place like a dictator, cheaping out on stuff and stonewalling on contract negotiations (he was GM and not coach at the time, but ran the show). And yet the next game after this very public internal feud was a 68-14 thrashing of Hamilton at home in the largest Bomber victory of all time. And in the one thing I can put him ahead of Grant for, he never missed the playoffs during his run here. Too many stories to recount, but a few highlights: Chris Walby seeing the pouring rain at training camp one day and figuring it meant indoor film study, Murphy walks in and yells "on the field in 5", and then stands in a golf shirt getting soaked for a 2 a day while miserable players hit each other. Walby said it proved Murphy would accept no excuses, would put himself in the same conditions as the players, and take no shortcuts. It steeled the team for the cold November games when other teams mentally checked out, and the Bombers knew they had the game won before the first snap. The trick plays - Murphy liked running trick plays, but said he liked running them a second time in the same game. He figured that a team wasn't expecting it the first time, but wouldn't dream of the play being run again, so were caught even more off guard. One game he had Shannon Baker back fielding punts with Allan Boyko. Being much slower, Boyko got kicked to by the punter. He fielded the kick and ran left to right, with Baker cutting behind him going the other way, when Boyko flipped it back to Baker for about a 50 yard gain on the reverse, fooling the cover team. Next punt they both converge on the ball, with Boyko again catching it, then handing it off to Baker as they ran in opposite directions, again crossing up the punt cover team for a big gain. This happened a third, fourth, fifth time, etc. and by now everyone in the stadium is waiting for Boyko to catch the punt and just hand it to Baker, as he has done all game. They are literally standing side by side when every punt is fielded. Finally the eighth punt comes down and Boyko again catches it and hands it to Baker, and the whole cover team is aiming for Baker, except Boyko pulls it back and takes off himself with the ball with everyone keyed on Baker, and he scampers for about 30 yards before being tracked down. Cal Murphy completely schooled the other team that day with his trickery. Bud Grant is a legend in 2 football leagues, and transformed the Bombers into the first Western dynasty in the CFL. Holds all the Bomber coaching records, and is the greatest of all time. So Grant will and should win this, and you can see I have a soft spot for Murphy, but I can cheat and vote him in a GM, where he had just as much influence on his teams, and was the key fighter against the American expansion and keeping the Canadian ratio rules, which kept the league from killing itself in the mid-90's. So it can be a win-win. GM Have already sung my praises for Murphy, so won't re-hash it here. It astounds me that Lunsford lasted as long as he did. I guarantee that if he existed in the fishbowl existence we have now with social media, he would have been fired 2 or 3 times over if the MBB fans had their say. His first 3 seasons, the Bombers went 8-39-1, and that wasn't enough to gas him. After finishing first in the West in 1972, the Bombers gave away the West Final at home to Sask. after a no yards penalty on a missed field goal gave the Riders a second chance to win it, and then the team went 4-11-1 the following year and missed the playoffs that season and the next - still not enough to fire him. Still employed despite a 4-12 season in 1979, and he was 0 for his first 6 playoff games. It took 3 more years of frustration to finally pull the plug. Paul Robson was brilliant and just meshed perfectly with Murphy, and found an astounding amount of talent (credit scout Paul Jones - who would lated build the indianapolis Colts into a Super Bowl champion, for a lot of it too), but wasn't around long enough to finish on top. And others have more eloquently spoken about Ausley and Ryan. Completely agree with those takes. So in the end, it is going to be Grant and Murphy if voting stays as it currently stands (and it will), and both deserve to be there. But I want to give some love to the old guard, so I'm going cast my votes to Ryan as GM for creating the team and the Western league, and Threlfall as coach for basically having a perfect track record (League interference notwithstanding) during his tenure, knowing full well neither will win out. But thrilled to see grant and Murphy take this one.