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Rich, I picked the Tiger-Cats to beat Montreal before I saw their injured list today. I would like to change my pick to Montreal now if that is possible.

Yikes. Tiger-Cats lose both their starting cornerbacks and Simoni Lawrence for their next game, and Lawrence has gone to the six game injured list. https://3downnation.com/2022/08/19/ticats-place-all-star-linebacker-simoni-lawrence-back-on-the-six-game-injured-list-lose-two-more-defensive-starters-for-matchup-with-montreal/

The league has kind of painted itself into a corner here. If the rule is simply that the visiting team should avoid going into the home team’s stands, then the Williams fine os OK, but Dom Davis absolutely have been fined, even if the attempt was poor (the intent was totally there). And Williams was clearly celebrating with his team’s fans, in a special section with no threat to the opposing home town fans. And in regard to the Argo Ti-Cat incident, it was the home team in it’s home stadium that fought with visiting fans. So either you make a blanket rule of “zero fan interaction of any kind” and things like the Bomber TD hop get banned, or you do a case by case basis based on observed threat, in which case the decisions on Williams and Davis both don’t make sense. So what does the league do next time a Rider jumps into his own home stands, eats nachos, gets fined, and rightfully says if that is a breach where is the Bomber fine for every TD celebration where they jump into the stands? Then the Hardrick Hop gets banned and this is why we can never have nice things. Or the Rider doesn’t get fined and where is the consistency? Especially when the league enjoyed the positive fan PR of the creative celebration and ran highlights of it on Twitter (since edited) and their website.

I would be too. My father’s connection to the Bombers goes back to Osborne Stadium and graduating from med school with Bomber great Tom Casey. He got me interested in the team and the CFL in 1981, and we got season tickets the following season. We got to experience the great 80’s teams together, an amazing way to start my fandom with such strong teams. Saw all the highs and lows over the next 37 years, and many vivid memories of our time spent at the ballpark during that time - way too many to share here but would be happy to regale you with some of you want the anthology contribution. Like your dad, mine passed in 2017 (on Thanksgiving) and I can still remember the quiet pain I felt in 2015 when I could see that he could no longer physically handle the walk up the stairs or mentally follow the games from the stands any more as his age and dementia caught up with him. Knowing I was losing him and those special father-son moments a full two and a half years before he actually died. Thanks for your piece, it certainly resonates with me and brings my own fond memories with my father flooding back.

Duke Williams gets fined for jumping into the stands in Edmonton and eating nachos with Rider fans after a TD. Seems silly but a violation of “security protocol”. So where is the fine for Dom Davis for jumping into the stands in Winnipeg to antagonize Bomber fans? More potentially explosive security situation there, no? https://3downnation.com/2022/08/18/cfl-fines-riders-receiver-duke-williams-for-viral-nacho-eating-touchdown-celebration/

Wow. Pearl-clutching about a post before it is even a post. Impressive. God, this bye week cannot end soon enough.

Fair enough. I would say the short punt is easier, but agree to disagree. The kick is more conventional. Thanks for the opinion.

7 year contract for a 32 year old. And the stupidity of NHL GMs continues.

Are Rider fans denying that he skipped the test, or just not bringing it up when they rip on Harris? Because I thought that was your complaint, and I don’t surf Riderfans so I would not know.

Yes, Liegghio practices punting and aiming for the sidelines a lot too. And there are hundreds of “what ifs” in a game that would change the discussion, but the hard reality is that we didn’t make the kick, which is why we should entertain these other options, and maybe entertained them before the miss. Punting for the single point seems like the easiest way to score from that close in, the returner shouldn’t even have a chance to touch the ball given the distance. Other than the football “code” that it looks like a cheap way to win, what stops them from taking the easiest route to winning?

From a “which team do I dislike more” standpoint, if I have no favourite I just watch it unfold without cheering one way or the other. I always approach this type of game in terms of “what is best for the Bombers”. Right now, a Lion loss helps us more, so even if I am not openly rooting for them, a Rider win is the preferred outcome. As for Rourke, the media should absolutely be singing his praises. He is putting up numbers not seen since Doug Flutie, and a home-grown phenom at the sport’s most important position who is articulate and clean-cut and resurrecting a franchise who have struggled for a while is nothing but great for Canadian football. What’s not to like about it?

Typical of any fan base. Switch the players, and the same thing was done here.

Yep, lots of latent hostility out there. The loss heading into the bye week certainly did not help the mood (as evidenced by the title of this thread). Let’s try a less contentious topic. Paul LaPolice - great offensive coordinator, or the GREATEST offensive coordinator? Debate! 🤣

Question: What is easiest? (A) to punt a ball 26 yards for a single point out the side of the end zone (b) kick a 32 yard field goal, (c) punt a ball 45 yards through the back of the end zone for a single (d) kick the ball off a tee from 52 yards through the end zone for a single (e) kick the ball off a tee 33 yards out the side of the end zone for a single point (f) punt or kick it into the end zone and let your cover team pin the returner for the single point (g) go for the touchdown? What gives us the best chance of winning, and should anything else matter beyond that (like how it looks, what it says psychologically)?

Is there anything more hypocritical than a guy who pled the 5th 440 times in a recent deposition asking for transparency in the court system?

And then claim you were hacked if it was you with the dumb hot take. 😁

The first game of the year against Ottawa. Brown marched them down to the 21 with passing then 2 running plays to burn the clock and kick the field goal. So not Collaros himself but the team played for the FG, I imagine Zach would have run the same plays if he was in.

The really troubling thing for the GOP is that even though they parroted Trump’s lies, most of the old guard Republicans did not truly believe the election was stolen. But the new generation of Trump-endorsed candidates who are winning these primaries actually do believe it.

I did not know that was the name of the game. The bean bag one, that is.

I’m afraid to ask what the “corn hole” activity is.

But why do you “have to show faith?” Show faith In his ability to punt for the game winning single. It’s like those who argued that running the clock to zero in the last minute was bad because it showed no faith in the offence to go for the TD by throwing the ball and potentially leaving time on the clock. Should the coach not tactically play the best odds to win the game? Was the punt not the better tactical play odds-wise? Is it just the optics of “winning cheap”? And should it matter? I can understand the idea that it could psychologically affect a kicker if his coach doesn’t trust him to kick a 32 yard game winner, but O’Shea can totally frame it as “yes we trust him, which is why we put him out to kick an important 45 yarder earlier rather than punt, but this was about getting the point we need to win. If we trailed by 1 or 2, I make a different decision”. And how is Liegghio’s psyche now that he has missed those 2 kicks? Which is more damaging to his confidence? Just asking, appreciate the counter-arguments from you and would love you to expand if you want to.

To be a 32 yard field goal, ball would be on the 25 yard line. Punt distance is measured from the line of scrimmage, not from where the punter kicks it, so Liegghio’s 47 yard average means he is actually kicking the ball another 10 yards or so from where he stands. It was 45 yards from the line of scrimmage to the back of the end zone, and 26 yards (plus whatever angle distance) to kick it out of bounds in the end zone to the side. 26 yard punt should be pretty automatic.

So, thinking about the end of regulation, and wondering why this was not discussed more. Should O’Shea have called for a punt instead? Aside from the “who wants to win that way?” argument, (and is it really a valid argument?) should O’Shea take any heat for not taking the best option to win? Remember Ken Miller trying this and the punter couldn’t kick it through the end zone, but also remember Lui Passaglia deliberately shanking a field goal out the side of the end zone to win a game in Winnipeg on the last play by one point. Is it a cheap way to win, or smart tactics if the rules allow it? Thoughts? (and this is not just entirely 20/20 hindsight - I did say to my wife in the stands just before the kick “why don’t they just punt for the single?” -did no one else think this?)