HardCoreBlue

And imho, from a respectful conversational point of view and regardless one's political and social beliefs, it's high time we all try to get away from the 'yea, but that person/those people are worse' response. I'm sure I've been guilty of this tactic over my lifetime, but I'm trying to improve on not taking that approach. It's counter productive. We need to address the issue at hand that was raised, whatever the side of the fence it's coming from. Once we do, then move on and address any counter claims on their own. As my mom always said to me, two wrongs don't make it right. End rant.

For the love of goodness, when is Myers back? Myers: 'Coach, I can't even skate'. Coach: 'I don't care.'

Penalty Shot, too deep in his net.

I understand that but that wasn't the call the ref made. Also, one could argue Buff was playing the puck. Moot point though, game, set match for our Jets. Tough loss.

So have I. Totally disagree. The ref assumed the play before it happened. A big no no for a ref. I do agree with you about Pav playing the puck. And the Shark player made that penalty shot look easy. Ugh.

Wow, I'm with you. Rarely, rarely do I ever pin as much influence on the ref but after watching the third period I'm befuddled. Not only with the penalty shot, but how does the ref blow that whistle? Call goalie interference but why the whistle? It was too quick for him to say he lost sight of the puck. Oh and I wish someone would have clocked Burns. Someone needed to stand up for Ehlers in what Burns was doing to him. Someone needs to tell Thorburn instead of randomly picking fights for show, challenging players like Burns when he's ragdolling our smaller players is what he is there for.

Random thought. We trade for Jake Allen, give him a fresh start. I'll show myself out.

From a serious point of view and not coming from any political stripe, this passive aggressive approach to packaging facts is very very troubling to me. Chuck Todd, in his words, was befuddled. This is exactly the intent of this approach. To befuddle the other. I agree with others who have said the way to combat this is to immediately shut down the conversation and wish them a good day.

Our up and coming Martin St.Louis?

She's given me an approach when I'm losing an argument or telling a fib. 'No I'm not wrong, we aren't lying, I'm presenting you with alternative facts'.

That won't help your cause.

Fail.

Not necessarily, to a certain degree, disagreeing with you, but for me personally I wouldn't want to shut down good fan rivalry discussions/taunts/trash talking etc. I don't care what the Rider Site does in how they administer their site. All I care about is we don't tolerate posts that are meant to truly hurt demean. I was thinking the other day of starting a topic in the general discussion about what people here think about posting their real names. I think that would help diminish the absurd posts but I do recognize the risk about the crazies getting hold of our real names and doing their crazy things. It would an interesting discussion to have though and read different perspectives in this.

2-0 Jets Pav with a shutout

Premier DT outside of QB sacks would include: gap excellent, doesn't cheat, disciplined in playing the system, runstop master, constantly double teamed opening up other lanes, great at stunts, great fitness, leader in pass knock downs, forces/recovers fumbles, can play any where on the line, has mastered many DT moves, difficult to block, coachable, team first attitude, great community member etc

No no no. Believe, have faith in the process or whatever the he** Brandon Bridge twittered out.

Weird, I get that a lot.

You're right, it will vary from player to player. But if you look at things longitudinal, controlling for certain variables (e.g., age and number of games played), you'll see trends that would help one determine the characteristics of what a veteran means. Not perfect, but something to help us understand the differences between a rookie and a vet.

Interesting, that's what Pavelec said about Noel. Confirmation that waiving him was the necessary thing to do. Good luck Dave Tippett.

Not in the sense of useful experience, developed talent, demonstrated maturity, honed leadership, etc.

Ouch.

It also seems that the shooters are becoming so much more accurate. Goaltender coaching seems to have forgotten there is a top half to the net.

Hutch and Helle are thinking, 'yea thanks, you score 6 goals for him, where's my goal support?'

Yup, the hidden job market.