HardCoreBlue

Although some seem to think there is no pressure on Burris this year because its an expansion team with low expectations, I think he has a lot to shoulder this year inhow he carries himself as a leader. It will be interesting to see how that unfolds this season.

Suber needs a quick start this year to get his shine on early.

And I hate to agree, but here we are Same reason I voiced on the Lapolice thread, bringing Price here would not happen if indeed our new regime are true to their words when it comes to leadership, culture etc.

Good God. Come on. You're smarter than that. "I dont hate you, just the way you were born". Its like KKK who now like the "We don't hate black people, we just love white people" BS. Price is the worst kind of coward. He's just religious enough to know his hick opinion is in the bible but too stupid to realise the bible is the worst source for supporting an opinion like this. And, worst kind of coward because he cant even own his opinion fully. Imagine if, in 2014, he tweeted "nothing personal. I like you as a person but my faith doesn't allow me to support black people (or women, or whatever)". Its the same thing. This is the human rights cause of our time like equal rights for minorities and women were previously. Should have cut him. My guess is that's what the Stampeder organization is presently considering as one of it's options in how they will handle it 'internally'.

Can't see that happening regardless of actual benefit. The optics would be terrible. We finally get him off the books then promptly put him back on and would cut against the grain in creating a new culture led by this new regime.

Nothing against you, but that in itself, is a sad statement. No offence taken. I just know hundreds -- and that is not an exaggeration -- of men over 35 who have turned their lives around with a similar protocol. Granted that isn't the same as a 22 year old athlete taking Winstrol to bang out more reps in a combine test, but I think most lay people have absolutely no idea what PED's do. And more importantly, what they DON'T do. Funny you say that. I remember listening to Barry Bonds, when asked at the time about his alleged use of PED's, explain that PED's can't help with eye-hand coordination, proper way to hit/field the ball etc. implying either you have these superior skills or you don't, PED's won't solve that for you. I thought this was a creative, albeit limited, argument.

1. I work in the field. Have for 20 years. 2. Steroids are not "unhealthy." Supra physiologic doses, sure, but not normal doses. Fact is they are extremely safe when used under the guidance of a medical professional. 99.9% of athletes don't do that though, as 99.9% of athletes wouldn't qualify for a legit script. Some older guys might though. 3. Once you understand and respect the drugs and get past all the fear mongering and misinformation you see them for what they are -- drugs with an intended purpose. It's like Vicodin. If you need it, it's a God send. Use it as a party drug or take 10 a day and you have problems. That's fairly cryptic, what field would that be? Because there is more than one field that offers important perspective to this issue of steriod use in sport. Also, curious with your #3, what point exactly are you trying to make in relation to Quinn Smith's predicament? I work in training/fitness, with roots in higher-level athletics. I am not commenting on the issue of drugs in sports. If a sport is mandated to be drug free and you geared up anyway and got caught, that's on you. If you legitimately need the stuff, get a script and contact your union rep. But none of that is the drugs' fault. Its the players. But the media blames the drugs. I don't really know Quinn's predicament. If you got dinged for Winny then accept your punishment like a man. Supplement companies used to taint their stuff with methyl test and even clenbuterol back in the day, but those days are done. I did hear a Gaspari product had traces of a legit anti-estrogen though. I hate that whole industry. See your doctor -- if you have low T, get a legit script and go on good, clean medication with doctors monitoring. Okay, I have a better understanding of where you're coming from. The complexity with steriod use, whether for medical purposes, performance enhancement in sport, fitness industry, supplement use etc is that these different scenarios usually don't work in isolation from one another. This can cause misinformation, confusion, stereotyping, guilt by association, responsibility deflection etc).

1. I work in the field. Have for 20 years. 2. Steroids are not "unhealthy." Supra physiologic doses, sure, but not normal doses. Fact is they are extremely safe when used under the guidance of a medical professional. 99.9% of athletes don't do that though, as 99.9% of athletes wouldn't qualify for a legit script. Some older guys might though. 3. Once you understand and respect the drugs and get past all the fear mongering and misinformation you see them for what they are -- drugs with an intended purpose. It's like Vicodin. If you need it, it's a God send. Use it as a party drug or take 10 a day and you have problems. That's fairly cryptic, what field would that be? Because there is more than one field that offers important perspective to this issue of steriod use in sport. Also, curious with your #3, what point exactly are you trying to make in relation to Quinn Smith's predicament?

Appreciate the image etched in my mind . . .

True dat.

I don't think any professional league distinguishes between guilt and guilt with intent. It is not up to them to determine intent. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that even if he showed them a picture of a needle in his butt, he'd be penalized the same. To be honest, all this "I didn't know" stuff is just window dressing anyways. If you're taking stanozolol, the chances that you didn't know it are incredibly slim and anyone in professional sports would know that. They'll deflect and claim ignorance, but the reality of the situation is that if he tested positive, it's not because he didn't know he was taking it, it's because he ****** up his cycle. Agree. By knowingly I mean his story will look like swiss cheese, full of inconsistencies, lacking logic, contradictions and not so much a smoking gun of pictures and needle holes.

He apparently did really well but they also took him out of the game and replaced him with an import on roughly half the snaps. We don't have the luxury of doing that unless we're rotating Canucks all over the place, which I suppose we'll have to do anyways. I'd personally rather see us use a rotation of guys like Newman, Muamba and Thomas and stick with an every down work horse MLB If I had my way, I'd minimize the use of rotation schemes but if I had to choose, I'd pick the middle linebacker spot(s) as my guy(s) who never leaves the field.

If it's determined he knowingly took this banned substance, can the CFL governing body take more of a hardline stance other than mandatory testing and harsh words? If they can, they should and send a message to all players/CFL teams that this will not be tolerated even it it means top talent not playing in this league. If they don't follow-through on where they stand with performance enhancing drugs, that also sends a message but with a different meaning.

I've never understood that. What's the risk of picking every round? Is the cupboard that bare to pass?

I think most of us assumed it was only for the media. However, I'm not sure that certain media personal would be disciplined/aware enough to focus only on the controversial calls. It would have to be well moderated. Also there would have to be commitment and patience with all parties involved that this would be a work in progress.with some kinks along the way. If perfection is expected right away , there will be some very disappointed people.

As long as it focuses on that and nothing more. e.g., a media person asking how come they called so many holding calls etc etc etc.

Having a lower percentage doesn't necessarily mean your team lacks in overall draft success. As one of your findings show, some of these players who pan out ended up playing for other teams/leagues (or other reasons of not playing with your team that had nothing to do with talent) which can be a separate issue other than pure draft ability/success. My educated guess would tell me BC would be a good example of this, no? Or is my line of thinking flawed which has happened before and will happen again

Because he is still a damned good player and lots of teams need a centre who can do the things he does in the regular season. Not everyone is as deep as San Jose that they have centres playing on the wing just to fit everyone in. Big man, soft hands. I believe he led the league in helpers this year. What team wouldn't consider him for a fair price?

Regular bus fare covers about 50% of the cost of Transit, with the province and city subsidizing the rest. So you're looking at about $11 round trip each to cover the cost of the charters. Chancellor Matheson and University Crescent. The lighting is incredibly poor, sidewalks non existant, or end abruptly on University Crescent (actually saw an older man injure his leg quite severely on the west sidewalk of University Crescent last summer after a Bomber game right where the sidewalk ends and there's a big rise), mix of drunk and sober pedestrians, people riding bikes through crowds of hundreds and thousands of people (and who knows what their sobriety situation is), confused bus drivers and people trying to find their bus to get out of there in the pitch black dark, then add in people being shooed out of parking lots trying to contend with the pedestrians and bikes. The conditions are definitely there for serious injury or death. But hey, at least they built the railings in the stadium well enough so we can't fall over or under them. Add in a 'home team loss' provides more fuel to this fire unfortunately . . .

Yes, I do recall that particular kicker and his interview. I was wondering what did become of that workout and since they were pursuing other American kickers, I had assumed nothing became of it. I believe he only does placekicking..but I could be wrong. Either way, it's good we got the right Maher involved with the Bombers…not some rabble rouser. At least his last name isn't 'Crapigna' who is profiled on the CFL official website. Don't know the guy, nothing against him, but what an unfortunate last name for a professional athlete, especially a kicker. It just writes itself when what to say when he's approaching the ball. Sorry, carry on.

I completely 100% agree with you, wins this season is not the biggest issue for this club. The biggest uncertainities we have is do we have the luxury, the discipline, the appropriate people that understand this and consistently follow-through in what it means to 'stay the course' for progression other than wins? The true litmus test of this new regime will be how disciplined, how focused, how flexible, how open, how intelligent the coaching staff, the management group and executives are when it comes to minimizing bad decisions influenced by pressures/needs/opinions not relevant, not plausible, not correct in what it will take to turn this organization around towards stability. I'm stating the obvious, yes but overall, collectively with all the non-playing people employed by the WBB over the last while, we haven't done well with this aspect of a shared vision, of shared responsibility and shared accountability. I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing thus far with O'Shea, Walters and Miller. The true test however will be when significant adversities hit this season and how it's handled. Right now, the new people charged with turning this club around are still enjoying the honeymoon phase.

After one of our DB's step in front of him declaring pick six :-). The jury is out on whether this will be good for the type of image the CFL is wanting.

Especially the ones who nod there head up and down when he asks does every get it but in fact they don't get it and poof, it's deleted off the smartboard screen. It reminds me of sitting in math class and my teacher asking if there is any questions as he's erasing everything off the chalkboard saying how easy this stuff is. My mark that term, 33%.

We are a league noted for second and third chances . . .

Why you don't want Glenn here? I'll field that one. Fit for what we need other than pure skill. I'm not sold on the fact that Glenn would embrace a teaching role, 'I'll do what ever this organization wants me to do' mentality. He's already demonstrated that he wants to be the number 1 guy. Nothing wrong with that, just not here. He needs to be flexible. We need him to be a leader whether he plays or not. We need to revitalize the culture of wanting to be a Blue Bomber and I don't think Glenn would want any part of that. He's an athlete with great skills but not a leader in the truest sense. He's never demonstrated to me he can be a leader when it counts the most. He actually reminds me a bit like Cleo Lemon but with a lot more skill. My guess he's never professed to being one and takes care of number one. Fair enough, nothing against him personally but take your wares elsewhere. Just my perspective.