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We might possibly see a contract extension or two with the balance of the remaining 2014 cap money ... but holidays are now going to dominate .... can't see any coordinator moves muddying the seasonal celebrations ... time for contemplation & reflection Think on you managers ... critical decisions coming up soon clarity coming to a town near you

Since we want to toughen up our D maybe we could bring in Angelo Mosca as DC and to keep things lively Joe Kapp as OC

When was the last time a "virgin" American came in as a coordinator and done a good job? (By virgin I mean not coached recently in the CFL)

"gettin' any younger" ... OL playing years can be very many if health holds ... only kickers and maybe QBs last longer

When you don't have a destination HC or co-ordinator job (and coming off of 5 really bad years, we don't), you can't walk around like you have one. If you'll recall, the exact same line of thinking you are espousing, is what got us stuck with Etch last year. The better guys took the better jobs, and we got stuck with what was left. So we can live with Etch?

Actually it has a lot to do with the other CFL clubs. Both in individuals that are now available (Would Benevides be an improvement from Etch as a DC?) and also in the size of the contract needed to secure a coach in the future. Also in another form do those open jobs hold any interest in current Bomber coaches. Everything that happens in the CFL has a ripple effect on the other teams. The coaches in CFL bounce around from team to team. For every move in one direction there has to be a move in the other direction. The coaches are looking at their options too so there is going to be delays on both sides. Even if deals have been made, announcements might not want to be made to space out the media attention if nothing else. I understand impatience but maybe I am wrong but expect a lot of the posters here have been around a few years or been involved in some business and understand these things are complicated with lots of competing agendas. Above all I can't imagine anything more ridiculous than announcing firing someone without having a replacement in hand. fire first hire later is common ... it does a fine job of achieving clarity for all involved you would only look for upgrade with the incumbent in place if you are reasonably satisfied with his work

" I would suspect they have made at least one if not more coaching decisions, and are simply trying to "time" releasing it to get the best media impact (or something.)" .... I don't think you can sit on announcements like we did in the good ole days ... too much social media leakage

Barring a complete implosion of epic proportions, O'Shea has to be safe until at least the end of next season. All coaches are on borrowed time and darned few leave on their own terms, but O'Shea's achilles heel may be his stubborness and being unwilling to change things /people when they are not working. I agree that it would be a very bad sign if we go into next season with the same cast as this year. Change for the sake of change is pointless but change when it is warranted is a good thing. "O'Shea's achilles heel may be his stubborness and being unwilling to change things /people when they are not working" ... you can say that again ... my biggest worry about him really

What often gets left out of this thought process - maybe they just have better things to do with their time than appease the fans with a pointless press conference. I'd rather they be working, myself. Impatience debatable, entitlement no. If one says, impatient or not "I'd like to know, I need to know, We should know now" does not mean they think they are entitled. If however one starts to say things like "Management owes me an explanation' that's another story. This thread isn't about entitlement or impatience ... never was ... some want to frame it as that but that is just plain missing the point Since MOS took over this ball club, his communication with the fan base has been ... well, I don't know: lets say limited (or inadequate, politically correct ... rarely frank) ... that's the point Walters & Miller have not made up for O'Shea's shortcomings in this matter The other original point was about our fear based on last year's tardiness in grabbing coaching talent ... no one wants to experience the same problem twice We are hoping for better but fearing the same ... that's the 2nd point We are looking for some communication of confidence .... not being some little impatient school girls Condescending .... sheesh

Your Post - - This is what I am trying to say. I am looking for some sign of life from management .... not entitlement to every little detail. This feels like the silent treatment to me ... and we as fans are just supposed to be good soldiers and endure whatever the generals send our way .... I have got better things to do with my life

I will take false entitlement over no entitlement ... fans are not ever entitled ... they just vote with their pocket book ... they sort of know how management feels about them ... and sometimes they just feel small, diminished

"It's being handled internally":... Not since the Mike Kelly days have I personally been so put off by media relations between our Blue executive and the faithful posters on this board. Or more precisely, the lack of any substance being put forward to us. Maybe it's just me imagining things but as a fan I feel like I am being "handled" although not so blatantly as in the Kelly days. I don't like the "polite" communication I feel like we are getting. Are we as fans getting the respect we deserve from O'Shea, Walters and Miller? I don't want them throwing people under the bus but I would like to see some frankness and open honesty. Media things can be played too close to the vest sometimes. Is it happening now? Either management is deliberately keeping us, the fans, in the dark, for whatever reason. Or else, they are very slow deliberators and decision-makers. I hope the problem I'm feeling is about their communication style and not about the ability to formulate a new success plan for next year.

I thought Barker has done a good job fo the Argos .... huge injuries and no $$$ to bring in replacements

We can focus on building our Blue!

I am not at all confident about what the Blue are going to do about our coordinators .. in fact I feel nervous about what is being argued out behind the scenes

Wally is a real arm-twister ... it may be what he is best at ... intimidation .... possible reason for not so great team chemistry ... ask Andrew Harris

Go Bombers .... next year's champs not chumps

Dyce our next OC?

Will Buono retire?

Based on what? There's literally no trend to support this statement. JJust my own observation

What is the most likely position for a Canadian non-import to make the NFL? There is an individual talent here or there but the only consistent position Canadians are recruited at is offensive line. Good lineman are rare both in Canada and the good old USA. Any offensive linemen taken in the top two or three picks is going to attract high NFL interest. I believe drafting an offensive lineman with the second overall pick is just too big a gamble. I don't care if the draftee in question says he is not interested in the NFL, now or later; I wouldn't believe him. I'm not sure I'm in love with Demski either. He did not dominate in the Bison-Dino Hardy Cup on Saturday. I feel very strong that our GM will be able to pick good lineman with our 11th pick and in the middle rounds. As long as we don't pick a guard or tackle with our number two, I will be happy. We just cannot afford to lose our top pick to the NFL, now or down the road.

A aggressive defence like Etch's was going to give up some big plays, maybe game changing plays. The key to success is forcing some big defensive plays, maybe in a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratio. Pressure defences can't give up as many as they make. I'm not sure the schemes were the problem; I am pretty sure it was the lack of execution of those schemes, whatever the cause. I cringed every time I saw a seven man blitz and it was like we were rushing three people. That happened way too often. So in evaluating Etchevery we have to answer the question why didn't his schemes work? Was it personnel or was it design?

If MOS does that then he has one foot out the door already on the way to being canned. That would be a mistake. But he's stubborn so I wouldn't be surprised. Stubborn seem to be MOS's biggest weakness

Panthers were in the NFC championship game second year first year finished 7-9. Jaguars made it to AFC championship game the same year beat the 13-3 Broncos. Minnesota Wild made it to conference final in 3rd year. San Jose won a series in third year. In five years Marlins were world champs. Colorado Rockies made playoffs in 3rd year. "Expansion teams are supposed to suck" ... no they are not .... who put that regulation in your head?

I believe Tresman has been around the NFL enough to know what a HC csan & can't do ... if he is in the midst of a mutiny then you can only confront it with trades and cutting the rebels