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Can't say I'm surprised by this, Swiston has been here what? 3 seasons? has been injured every season pretty much, means he's probably below where he needs to be, when you keep getting injured over and over and over, you aren't gonna be able to learn much, It's too bad but the reason the guy was picked in the 4th round and not earlier was because of his injury concerns. This isn't new, this has been going on with Swiston since before he was drafted, that's why we got him in the 4th round.. If he was healthy and not injury prone, he would have probably been taken in the first 2 rounds. Oh well really. Good luck tho to Paul in the future, Hopefully he catches on somewhere cuz honestly, he seems like a good guy and hopefully gets a chance to show he can stay healthy but he couldn't stay healthy here.

I really enjoyed OZ, yeah it was disturbing but apparently, Prisons are actually very similar to what OZ portrayed. i AGREE that it is odd seeing those guys from OZ on other shows, Vern being the most obvious, he's been in quite a few stuff and even on a few commercials, was a real son of a ***** on OZ. Beecher too, Might have actually been on Criminal Minds or CSI or even Law n Order too, playing a crack addicted bad guy.. Ended up getting killed on the show.. It was criminal minds now that i remember. Honestly, Don't watch much TV right now.. When i do, I dunno why but... for the most part it's HGTV or Discovery.. Really like that Yukon Men show, it's quite good actually. Gold Rush is always fun to watch too. Not really in to the Dramas or anything like that too much, Do enjoy the comedies like Modern Family and Big Bang tho but for the most part, Tv? Very rare these last few months. Fun fact about HGTV.. theres a show called "Tackle My Reno", the host? former CFL player Sebastien Clovis.

Ricky Ray was a dominant QB and has been since he's been in this league, Hasn't exactly played on that many "dominant" teams. Calvillo played on a dominant Montreal team for years, gotta also keep in mind the EAST was historically weak during that time, and he has a losing record in grey cup games. Who exactly are Dominant QB'S.. i can think of a few in the NFL..Manning,Brady,Brees even (altho N.O. ain't so great no more) so obviously, it takes more than just a dominant QB to win, if that was the case then Manning Brady Brees Calvillo and Ray would be winning cups and bowls every year. They don't tho. Different time back then when Allen played tho, Not convinced Allen would be a good qb if he played today. As for Marve, LOL.. 1 quarter of work, yeah he looked ok but... 1 quarter and some people are declaring him this god and we lost the game too? Even tho i feel for some reason that if we actually would have stopped Calgary there we might have tied it up, Calgary was on their heels a bit, but probably to be expected when you have zero film on the guy. I like Marve, i think he will be a pretty good QB for us down the line but... he's not better than Willy, that's for sure. You know Willy in his first quarter as a bomber put up a couple touchdowns also? Threw for more yards and actually completed a higher percentage of his throws. I hope Marve gets another shot to play this season, Hopefully he gets some reps next week vs Calgary, Would like to see what he can do when Calgary actually has time to prepare for him. You know, I've always wondered why teams and coaches don't do this, I mean i know why, cuz it's ridiculous but...I've always wanted to see a team, for example here, the bombers say "Drew Willy is starting this week". and then 30 seconds before the game say "Actually we lied, Marve is". Would that not kind of screw the other team over a wee bit? Preparing all week to face one qb and then have to face the other guy? I know why they don't but man, would just love to see it happen just once... Just to see what happens. Willy starts this week, then on the opening offensive series Marve comes out.. be great to see.

In my opinion, Grigsby quit however it is true we don't really know the whole story, Not like it makes quitting any better but... if i was a teammate, i'd probably have a better understanding of what actually happened, it couldn't just have been "you are sitting", there has to be more behind it and as fans i don't think we are privy to that information, nor should we be really. There are some things we as fans don't really need to know. Like i said tho, i label grigsby a quitter but... i don't know the whole story. I'm convinced there is more to it than just what has been reported, there has to be, unless it really is as simple as the guy didn't wanna be a backup and actually did believe all the early season hype.. Honestly, reading the guys twitter on game day vs Edmonton, you could see it coming, he was throwing his team under the bus all game long, Why did he do this? who knows. Sour grapes maybe? I dunno but a guy throwing his team under the bus like that, i can label him a quitter, everyone else can too, that's fine but... the fact is guys like that are toxic to the team and i for one am glad he is gone and sounds like just about everyone else is too. Good luck to Grigsby in Hamilton, i don't wish harm on him, i hope he does well.. he has a family to feed. Sometimes, i think us as fans like to read in to things too much, sometimes, "it's a business decision" really is what its all about. Wonder if he's being paid more in Hamilton...

Isn't there a plaque attached to the statue of grant letting people know of his accomplishments? Pretty sure unless i was dreaming of that. Don't think i was. Great Idea tho and even tho I wasn't around for BUD, I appreciate the guy and what he means to the history of this team, Yeah he seems to be getting up there but... man that guy sounds like he could still inspire. What a great honor really. Well deserved for a true legend in bomber history.

Doesn't work for the Jets tho or the Oilers i'm sure who probably will not trade Eberle ever. Eberle and Hall and RNH are probably the untouchables on Edmonton. It's funny... Our offense isn't really the issue, it has been so far this year but reality is we do put up goals, we are league average if not just above it in terms of scoring for the most part, last year we had what? 6 or so 20 ++ goal scorers was it? maybe 5 but one had 19... Offense isn't the issue for this team and this is a total panic trade right here just cuz we have struggled to score this year.. Eberle sure is lighting it up tho isn't he with his zero goals as of 2 days ago... Man, Eberle would be nice but not for Bogo.. Bogo at worst is a top 4 d man, D are much harder to find than forwards... MUCH HARDER and actually don't really come in to their own until later in their careers generally, Not comparing Bogo to Shea Weber cuz not even close but.. Weber really didn't come in to his own until several years in to his career, the guy spent several years in the AHL... he wasn't rushed to the NHL like bogo was also. Bogo is at worst a top 4 dman on this team.. Again you trade bogo and who? trouba takes his spot? then who takes troubas spot/ postma? pardy? puhlllease. You don't trade a guy like BOGO for a defensive liability like eberle, and i like eberle but you just don't do that... Ladd,Little,Wheeler, Kane,Scheif,Eberle Lowry,Perreault,Frolik? Solid Group... I'd trade Buff for him... but not a dman, that's crazy talk Trouba,Enstrom? Postma,Stuart? Pardy,Clitsome? Man that's awful right there... Solid offensive group tho... but basically what we are doing is loading up on forwards and ignoring the D... yet we are making this hypothetical trade with a team who has done just that, loaded up on forwards and ignored the D and how has that been working for Edmonton?? Not so good It's odd to me, I like eberle, i do, i'd love to have him here but not for a still young and developing at worst top 4 d man. That's insanity actually and hurts the team way more than it helps that's for sure.

Another way to look at it is this way, Neufeld actually played 7 games for us this year, more than a handful and Hall has played none in the CFL this year and might not ever play in the CFL again. 4th and 2nd? Big deal really... 2014 was a pretty weak draft year, didn't we pick 17th anyway after some trades so essentially we did get a 2nd rd pick this year, just had to trade a couple thirds to get it, but reality is... the guy they would have taken at 11th is probably the guy we got at 17th anyways. So really... sounds like we got the guy we wanted anyway, that was Briggs, you can talk about DL and guys like that but the bombers wanted briggs and would have taken him at 11th more than likely if we still had that pick.. just so happens we took him at 17th. Think some of you are over estimating the talent in the 2014 draft, we traded 2 3rds to get the 17th, Walters probably only does that if 1. the guy he wants is still there and 2. It's not a strong draft class.

Nice stadium.. It's sad tho that i just logged on and the top 2 topics is one about Durant and the other about this stadium. That makes me sad as a bomber fan to come to the site i enjoy most for bomber news and discussion only to find the top 2 topics are both about the Riders.

Honestly, could care less who posts here or not, doesn't bother me at all, i actually kind of like the fact that some rider fans have come here and talked football. It does get annoying tho reading through some of the delusional statements but whatever really, Honestly, if a rider fan wants to believe durant will be back this season, what's the harm in letting him believe that. I don't see any need to call people names or anything like that...but i don't see the problem in some of the humor used in this thread.. Guess some people have thin skin? It must be.. 8 9 pages about the Riders QB... guess that old saying don't feed the trolls is true cuz that's all this topic has become, folks feeding the troll and now its 9 pages long.. Yeah yeah, "BUT I'M NOT A TROLL"... but in a way going on and on and on about this topic on a bomber fan forum is kind of trolling. Not exactly the definition but it's definitely an example of a form of trolling.

Problem with trading Enstrom is stuart becomes the number 1 LH d man. That's a problem.

Ah so our rookie starting QB isn't 4 of the best to play the game. Better sit him then. People probably need to remember he is a first year starter and comparing him to legends isn't fair. Same ppl tho saying the same stuff.

I really think Howell is a likely choice. I really do, do i hope it's howell? I don't know exactly how i feel about that but... he's an up and comer.

What this thread tells me... is rider fans are delusional.

Not as much as you like to think you do. Records speak for themselves? what was Reillys record last year?

He was retired because nobody wanted to pick him up. Riders got desperate. It's true. Honestly, don't care but fact is he was retired and the riders got desperate and convinced him to play again. It truly is the definition of a desperate team. Lets just say Joseph did play well, he did ok at least.. put up Durant like numbers really..... team still lost? why? cuz maybe your offense isn't the problem, maybe your defense has gone to crap the last several weeks, can say Joseph played well, hell could say Durant could come back and play well, but if your D don't step up, It's over for the riders. THe d HAS been awful the last several weeks, not even an ok to decent performance by Joseph made a difference.

Nope, not the answer... but neither is Slater Big difference here. Slater is a 4th line center, Jokinen is not. Jokinen wouldn't want to play 4th line minutes. It's just how it is. In Nashville i believe he is the 2nd line center even. He was never offered a contract here and rightfully so but no way he would have accepted 4th line minutes. Not a chance. Can believe he would have all you like but reality is, he's 2nd line center in Nashville getting 15-20 minutes a game, here? he'd get 7 or 8 minutes a game. Not worth it to pay him that much to be a 4th line center. Plus he really wasn't very good at winning face-offs and that's actually one of the things slater does pretty well. Didn't realize you and Oli were so close... I think offering Jokinen 3rd-4th line minutes and a transition to player-coach would have been a very attractive deal. Honestly, that first line could be used on you too. Jokinen wouldn't be playing third line here tho, he's not better than Little Scheif or Perreault.. He's just not. He'd be 4th line. Seriously, In Nashville he is playing 2nd line minutes and getting paid more than he would have here playing 3rd lol but more than likely 4th line minutes. He wouldn't have signed here. Plus reality, Jokinen wasn't very good here. He was actually a bust.

Wonder how many of the people knocking Willy were doing the same to Reilly last season? All of them??

On the cusp eh? so that to me means he should be back in a week or 2, he won't be tho. Durant if he comes back early, man oh man, it's gonna be ugly cuz he's gonna be hurt again. I wouldn't rush him back if i was the Riders but i'm not and i get the sense that they will rush him back and he will be hurt again and possibly hurt so badly that he misses a part of next season too. Riders aren't a very good team tho, they really aren't. Your qb goes down, ok i get your offence starting to struggle but the D too? They have been awful, where has john chick been, that poll about the MOP in the west on the CFL site is a joke, where has chick been the last several weeks? invisible. Like i said, i get if your qb goes down your offence is going to struggle, i get that but it's no excuse for your defense to suck as bad as the riders D have the last several weeks. Riders are done and lucky they got their wins early in the year, if not they would probably be last place in the west. If one guy goes down and your entire team goes to crap, you aren't that good and i don't see that one guy returning making a huge difference.

the reality is if people want roads to be fixed, you need to pay for them and the way to pay for them is through tax money. If you don't want to pay taxes to fix things, things will never be fixed.

Nope, not the answer... but neither is Slater Big difference here. Slater is a 4th line center, Jokinen is not. Jokinen wouldn't want to play 4th line minutes. It's just how it is. In Nashville i believe he is the 2nd line center even. He was never offered a contract here and rightfully so but no way he would have accepted 4th line minutes. Not a chance. Can believe he would have all you like but reality is, he's 2nd line center in Nashville getting 15-20 minutes a game, here? he'd get 7 or 8 minutes a game. Not worth it to pay him that much to be a 4th line center. Plus he really wasn't very good at winning face-offs and that's actually one of the things slater does pretty well.

Interesting tidbit about Grigsby, just heard on TSN. Take it for what it's worth but this is Grigsbys 6th team in the last 4 years.

Steeves is irrelevant and just a huge joke, the fact that he has no platform at all, what is his platform exactly? Does anybody know cuz it seems to me his platform is, NO to everything. No to Growth, no to progress, Steeves i don't think was ever a realistic option. He is irrelevant. He just doesn't get it. Never has and never will. The nice thing about this, steeves will be gone in a couple days never to be heard from again. He has truly killed his political career.

optimistic as anyone but... it's highly unlikely both us and bc make it to the playoffs right now.

It's gonna be close. That's for sure. But i truly do feel Bowman will pull it off. Honestly, i don't talk to lots of people, but the people i do talk too and they range anywhere from 18 to even 65 or older (uncles aunts, co workers etc) , They all can't stand judy and the funny thing about it is, most these people are very pro NDP but anti Judy. That's why i mentioned all the NDP councilor signs and the Bowman signs in the same yard. It's interesting, never seen that before round these parts.. Ton upon tons of NDP councilor signs but in the same yards, Bowman for mayor signs. It's shocking to see actually. Turns out people may end up voting for the best person and not the party, i hope they do. Like i said, Voted bowman and voted the NDP councilor. Why? because i actually agree with both of them, fresh new ideas instead of the same old. I'm starting to truly believe that most people are seeing it this way too. Just cuz you vote for the NDP councilor, don't mean you need to vote for Judy. Honestly, in these elections, i wish more people would actually vote for the person they actually agree with and not the party they represent. What party they represent to me is irrelevant, i could honestly care less and it seems like lots of people are thinking the same right now. Hey you know what, i can agree with bowman and i can also agree with the NDP councilor, i can vote for both. Judy is so out of touch, nothing against older people, but a 65 year old should not be mayor. It's just not cool. I don't care that JUdy represents the NDP, i don't care that Bowman is sort of conservative, it's irrelevant, I voted for the people i agreed with more. Gonna say this, if this was a provincial election, i think i would have voted NDP or Independent because as much as i really don't like Sellinger,Pallister is every bit of a goof as sellinger is, if not more. Honestly, the way i look at it, if these people weren't affiliated with a party, who would i vote for... I think most people should think that way. Just cuz you vote for the NDP, don't mean you should vote for Judy, you need to vote for the person you feel is best for the city of winnipeg. I hope people see it that way. Vote for the person you feel is best for the city. Don't vote for the party they represent, vote for the person they are.

and ofcourse because he played for the argos for a while, was hyped out the butt. So gotta take that in to account too. Not one of the best but definitely not one of the worst. Maybe middle of the pack?