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Delete - Congrats on the prediction tho.
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I can't agree with what he did either but just the other day O'Shea scoffed at changes because he was trying to build something and not tear it down. There were better ways to handle this situation than having a player quit on you because of playing time, time which he had earned throughout the season. There is a big difference between losing your job to the next guy because he out performed you then to lose it for really no reason at all. Both players could and should have been on the roster splitting touches and may the best man win. Just very bush league that it even had to come to this. The other day was like 2 weeks ago dude. The team is in a losing streak, change needed to be made. They made a change, a change most people wanted to see. You wanna keep doing the same thing over and over? It seems MOS is damned if he do, damned if he don't with some of you... people beg for change, we get it then people ***** about that change. It's crazy really.
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I get this funny feeling that for some reason isn't going away, it's about this week vs calgary, I dunno why but i honestly for real get the feeling that we will somehow pull off the win. However if Willy is hurt and doesn't play, no chance but i think if he does play, i see us winning for some reason. I dunno why either, logic says the stamps in a blow out but... just can't shake that feeling that an upset is about to happen. Maybe it's the fact that Calgary has nothing to play for and the Bombers should be quite motivated this week, I dunno, just a feeling. Haven't really had it in a while but i got it right now for some reason. I'm probably wrong, wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last but I just see a very motivated for some reason bomber team showing up this week... basically the bombers season is on the line this week, It really is, people can say what they want but the season is truly legit on the line this week, yeah its unlikely we make the playoffs, it's actually very unlikely but since we seem to have something to play for this week and Calgary really doesn't, I just get this feeling we beat them.
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If grigsby signed elsewhere and had a good first game with that team, I'd probably be like yeah he did that here week 1 also, let's see if he can do it again and then he probably wouldn't be able to do it again. Honestly, Don't think it would mean anything if he signed elsewhere and had 1 good game, Problem with Grigsby here tho was he couldn't break that one tackle in the backfield, does that change elsewhere? It didn't change here, people can blame olines all they want and schemes and all that stuff but if you can't run through a leg tackle on one team, what makes anyone think he could do it on another team.
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Went to vote at the advanced poles about an hour and a half ago, Bowman it is and judging by the chatter of most the people at the poles, i'd say bowman has a pretty good chance to take it. Not sure if people want Judy in there, Funny cuz this area is filled with NDP signs for city councilor but more bowman than judy mayor sign tho. I find that interesting, tons upon tons of ndp city councillor signs but way more bowman for mayor signs than Judy signs. Same houses too, you see a bowman sign and the NDP city councillor sign on the same yard. It's interesting. Think what it's saying to me is most people in this area want change.
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Simpson was better than Grigsby and had way more class. Would love to see a healthy Simpson back here. Doubt it happens but it would be ok with me if it did.
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I'm just happy to know that we have a guy like Chris Randle on the team who actually gives a crap and actually has heart character and dedication to the team. More Chris Randles and less Nic Grigsbys please.
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Heres an example as to why our media sucks for the most part When they asked O'shea about the release, O'shea said they gave him a couple different options, one not being his release and grigsby then asked for his release. You would assume the next logical question after that would be 'What options did you give him" but nope, didn't ask that, just moved on to something else. This is why speaking to the coordinators is pointless, this is why actually reading the papers is pointless, it's all pointless cuz the questions that most fans want to know (i'm assuming most fans would want to know what options grigsby was given)(i know i wanted to know), but our media don't ask that and then pretend to be speaking on behalf of the fans? what fans are they speaking on behalf of? They ain't asking the questions i want to know... Why not ask what the options were, that seems to be pretty relevant in this scenario, what options did they give to grigsby, if one wasn't to be released then what the heck other options did they give him... I gotta LOL at those who think the media here would actually ask relevant questions, they don't even ask the obvious ones when it's right there in there face, you could see MOS almost getting ready to explain what those options were and honestly he looked surprised when the media just totally ignored it. Speaking on behalf of the fans? Bullllllllllllllcrap and i hope to GOD o'shea knows and i'm pretty sure he knows, but i hope to god he knows that those morons do not represent the average fan. If that is the mentality tho of the average fan, we got bigger problems then who our coaches players or management are.
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Not exactly. That's the problem with the media, they actually skipped the rest of that quote. O'shea actually said more but he said it's best to just say "no comment" cuz no good could come of saying more. AKA he didn't want to say that they probably tried to and were trying to but had no takers cuz most teams don't trade for average running backs. With that being said tho, drew edwards on twitter, ticats guy says he's hearing the ticats have some interest in Grigbsy. Nobody would have traded for him tho.
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We will just do it like this QBs- Willy,Brohm,Marve <--- all upgrades on last seasons complete CRAP.. BY A MILE even. RB- let's call it a wash really, Ford was ok last year, much like Grigsby this year, Just ok, nothing special, Just ok. <--- needs to be upgraded big time OL- January,Morley,Jones and Howard (for a bit) were around last season... Goossen,Tyler,Hinse and the PR guys are pretty much new.... Couple Import tackles i'm assuming on the PR right now so i suppose they do recognize the weakness, Neufeld has been hurt, Knapp lost his job and hasn't been able to get it back.. Bit undersized i suppose. WR- Moore, Denmark.. Kohlert,Watson.. Moore is new, the rest are the same. Kelly is the same, Bryant is new but not really, JFG is new too... Should have been able to find at least one receiver better than Kelly and Bryant, maybe that guy is on the PR though, who knows. Really just need 1 guy there. Couldn't find him earlier on, altho maybe kemp would have been that guy but he got hurt, hard to say exactly. Have tried McGuffie but he doesn't seem to be that impressive right now. DL- exact same as last year minus a few guys and plus Vega. Booker looked good, Fraser was ok when he played too, just got hurt..Lots of issues there with Injuries though. LB- Definitely worse, Funny cuz both Wild and Dunn were starters last year for us. Wild is good, Dunn is i suppose adequate? I dunno, don't hear his name much, not sure if that's good or bad.. DBs - definitely better than last year... big time upgrades there S- Leggett is way better than Muamba K- Lirim is the best kicker we have had in some time But when you really look at it... Leggett,Johnson,Fraser/Booker have been our only real changes from last season. Minus the QB's and free agent signings. Probably not good enough but i suppose i'm willing to give the scouting staff the benefit of the doubt for now, they seem to understand that there are issues with this team and judging by a few PR signings, they seem to be recognizing the right areas. Couple Tackles on there, Just signed a Linebacker too, Looks like he can play the Middle, so they are aware of the issues so that's a plus in my view but they haven't really given these guys a chance yet and the ones they have given that chance too, well a couple have looked decent (Booker,Tyler) a couple have not.
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Don't most teams in the CFL have the same policy? I know Montreal did with trestman and i'm pretty sure sask and calgary and even edmonton now have the same policy. Maybe it's cuz i'm not following the other teams as much as the bombers, but seems to me that at least half the teams in the league have the same policy as o'shea. Heck pretty sure Toronto does too.
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maybe if fans could ask the questions but with our media here, you'd get nothing interesting at all. You may not understand it cuz you live out there in BC but the media here are pathetic and you'd learn absolutely nothing new from them if they were to speak with the assistant coaches. Can say what you want out there on the west coast but don't think you can truly understand unless you live here. That's absolute hogwash. I can and do truly understand, not because I live or lived in Winnipeg, but because I watch the media scrums and read the Winnipeg papers online. The only thing I can't do from out here on the coast is go to the practices. Most around here don't do that either, Again, say what you want but when you constantly agree with the biggest troll in the winnipeg media, it tells me you really don't get it at all.
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Amazing tho, all the bitching these guys were doing on twitter and then it's 1 minute of questions about grigsby and then move on. Seriously,Lawless had the first question, sara orlesky from tsn had one (similar) and then friesen asked the same question, seriously 3 similar questions from 3 different people. I don't get our media, you can almost hear them going damn, that was my question, now what do i do. It's crazy, 30 seconds on grigsby if that really, take out the stuterring and the questions and it was 30 seconds, maximum one minute on grigsby.
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they didn't ask. One of the options tho was not his release.
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maybe if fans could ask the questions but with our media here, you'd get nothing interesting at all. You may not understand it cuz you live out there in BC but the media here are pathetic and you'd learn absolutely nothing new from them if they were to speak with the assistant coaches. Can say what you want out there on the west coast but don't think you can truly understand unless you live here.
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same self righteous prick it always is... Paul Friesen.
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No clue but I absolutely loved his response. Friesen.
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Not much said, o'shea when pressed really said he and randle would have been good team mates, referring to what chris randle said about grigsby. Friesen asks the dumbest questions and you can tell MOS has zero respect for him just the way he answers his questions, asked why they can't speak to the assistant coaches, o'shea then goes on to explain what he has said all season, friesen then asks why they had a closed practice today, o'shea said cuz the RCMP were doing exercises at the stadium too and civilians weren't allowed in. Friesen says why didn't you tell us, MOS says 'cuz i don't have your number". LOL. just classic. Seriously 2 minutes on Grigsby, same questions, Lawless was the most informative of them all, kills me to say this but felt lawless asked the best questions about it.
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Here is the difference between Bomber fans blaming MB and rider fans blaming Cortez... Cortez has been one of the best OCs in the CFL for years and years and years while MB has peaked at average and shown for years that the best he can do is average. He has had bland and dull offenses every where he's gone and they've done just enough to not be a total embarassment at best. Cortez on the other hand has had CFL leading offenses many times on many different teams. One guy has a stellar resume and the other is the guy you hire when you have no other choices. Yes, it seems MB mediocre as our OC and should be replaced. Bombers inability to produce on Offence is their biggest problem. Defensively we are not great - but not as bad as everyone is making out. If you look at points surrendered you see that this year our defence actually didn't cost us too many games. D contributed points with turnovers and held opposing teams to low points against. My concern is actually with MOS in relation to the O. He admits he knows nothing about the offensive phase of the game and therefore delegates to his OC. This was fully revealed couple weeks back on the Coaches Show when a caller asked why Bombers don't run more outside runs and power sweeps. MOS said those plays don't work in the CFL because opposing Ds have their fastest players between the hashmarks and sidelines. The field is 65 yards wide. These plays do work. Also, MOS said you can't have extra blockers and delayed release plays but of course this is rubbish also. Never did MOS say that he knows nothing about the offensive phase of the fame! You obviously have a selective memory...that was Burke last year who said he knows nothing about offence. Yeah i have to admit, i tend to listen to the coaches show every week and don't ever recall MOS saying anything remotely close to that.
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Can hear the media bitching because they have had to sit around for 20 minutes, however one guy just said practice ended 10 minutes later today.. Someone just snorted while laughing, probably lawless. and they have stopped the stream.... dun dun dun...
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My question on Swiston is, how bad is he? I mean, he hasn't played all year, he's on our PR. I'm not so sure he's that great actually, if he was one would assume he would be playing instead of one of our 3 import oline. Him being on the PR right now and not getting a chance at all this year says to me that 1. he isn't good enough or 2. he's still hurt a bit.
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It does make you wonder.
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Odds and Sods - Winnipeg Blue Turkeys vs Edmonton Eskimoes
Goalie replied to do or die's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah i really don't think the team cares if there are boo birds out, i mean really, if the team is being run by the fans and players are being sent packing cuz the fans are booing, we got bigger problems then who the coach or players are. -
Aint no quit in a man...who quit? Yeah subers tweet makes no sense considering grigsby asked to be released, asking for your release is the polite way of saying "i quit'. so obvious there is quit in that man, a lot of it apparently.
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I was under the impression that most people wanted Grigsby gone weeks ago, not sure why some are thinking this is a bad thing, when most of us wanted this to happen weeks ago. Guess it shows you how out of touch some fans and media actually are with the fan base, kicking us when we are down? is this really a day where we are down/ or is this kind of a happy day because the guy 90 percent of this board wanted released, well he was let go. It's a good day no? plus 20 out and grigsby got released, only way it can be better is if i win the lottery tonight.