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Thought Bryant had his first real good game vs Hamilton, odd time to crap on him now, think he was sufficient, definitely turned a few short passes in to big plays, get bryant in space so he can use that speed and he's effective, trying to hit him on 40 yard passes? not so much. Play calling has been suspect too, pretty much what to expect from Marcel tho, not sure why we have gotten away from what was working earlier in the year.. Do notice this, when they go to the hurry up offence they are much more effective. Probably should run the hurry up offence more. And I think i understand why, because they probably don't have much faith in the oline but... grigsby needs more carries and more touches, whether its screen passes, bubble passes, whatever.. whether its handing off the ball, 10 carries a game ain't enough. This is why i don't get people who want to see another running back on the game day roster, we don't use the one we have enough so why put another one on there, why? so he won't be used either. You got a pretty good weapon back there in Grigsby, he needs more touches. Stop with the running up the middle crap, it doesn't work, grigsby's best runs are to the outside, go there more often.

So let's take a look, so far compared to the same point in the season last year Calgary, is taking 1 penalty per game more for an additional 8 yards per game Sask, is taking 1.25 penalties per game more for an additional 3.5 yards per game Winnipeg is taking .7 penalties less per game for an additional .1 yards per game Montreal is taking 1 less penalty per game for 2.4 yards per game less BC is taking 4 penalties per game more for an additional 26 yards per game Toronto is taking 2 penalties per game more for an additional 24.5 yards per game Edmonton is taking .8 penalties per game more for an additional 4.7 yards per game Hamilton is taking 3.5 penalties per game more for an additional 15 yards per game overall there are 2.8 penalties per game more for an additional 21 yards per game in penalties though 2/3 of this season vs first 2/3 of last season Well that is absolutely shocking for sure. Honestly just watching the games and all games i can, it sure seems like the refs are way more flag happy than just roughly 3 calls per game. Color me surprised for sure. Think the refs do play a role, the penalties do play a role though, think we are kidding ourselves if we think they don't.. Maybe its not the amount of penalties being called but penalties being called at the worst possible times? I dunno, maybe more context would help, wonder how many of those penalties took away big plays off the board for the offences in the league. When were they called? what was the call? did the call have anything at all to actually do with the big play? Or maybe it is as simple as the Defenses are just better. Who knows really.

Gotta admit, watched a few segments of SNL this week and it was pretty funny.. The weekend update was good, the bigger woman and the host in the bar was pretty funny, the nfl on cbs thing running through the teams offences and defenses but instead of saying what college they went too, saying what crime they committed. Was pretty decent actually. The host was pretty good actually.

I'm not sure i can blame Glenn Johnson, He's the guy in the command centre. On reviews? sure i can blame him and he does deserve his fair share of blame but blaming him is really ignoring the real problems and that's the guys on the field blatantly missing obvious calls and calling super weak borderline penalties. Hard to blame Johnson when Kim Murphy doesn't call a roughing the kicker call last week and does this week on a play that was actually less roughing/contacting the kicker than the one last week where he didn't call it. Not sure i can blame Johnson on the inconsistency as the inconsistency has been around for several years with the refs. It's just lack of training, lack of consistency... I'll admit it, i watch other games and i've said it before and one more time, I don't care if they call penalties, its irrelevant to me really but at least if you are going to call one time on a borderline call, call it on the other team too. Consistency i think is key, and that's the problem, from game to game week to week, you don't know what you are going to get. I think part of that might be because this year they use different crews for every game, last year and seasons past i believe, they'd have lets just say kim murphys crew working games together and then lets say andre proulxs crew working together every game, this year they changed that up and the crews don't work with the same ref every week. That might be part of the issue there too cuz a lot of the times, it's not the ref that's throwing the flag, it's the other guys.. However the contacting the kicker call, well that's a direct result of the Ref just being blind or a moron or i dunno what.

The real odd part is they did replace someone during the bye week, whether its injury related or not, devin tyler started in place of cordaro howard. Tyler looked lost and this is a guy with a few years of CFL experience. Guess when you are surronded by ****, you become it too.

I agree for the most part but i think numbers 1. and 3. go hand in hand. Thats where most your depth guys are used, special teams. lack of depth means special teams ain't so good.

I noticed that in Edmonton v. Sask. Several big plays by Edmonton, taken back by calls, one a hold half the width of the field away from the actual run. It does ruin the fun of watching the game. These referees don't understand, we aren't watching the game to see them throw flags, and have meetings on national TV. The penalty call was for unnecessary roughness and it was deserved. Put the blame where it belongs - on the player who made a boneheaded play, not the official. I've noticed you like to stick up for the reffing a lot, do you have a family member who refs games? it has to be cuz you have got to be kidding me with some of these calls this year. Not just bomber games but league wide, the reffing has been awful and is the main reason why scoring is down so much this year.

I'm with Mike on this one, bet if you looked at how many penalties have been called this year compared to last... you'd see the reason. Offences have a hard time gaining momentum or being consistent because after every big play, more than likely a flag is thrown. Refs are flag happy this year, more so than last year and i think that's the main reason why you are seeing so many low scoring games. I'm fine with them calling penalties but if the penalty has absolutely nothing to do with the play, they should have kept the flag in their pockets. Seen it so many times, big play called back because some guy on the other side of the field gets called for something that had nothing to do with that big play at all. I'm not sure having an expansion team plays any role at all actually, one would think that with an expansion team to beat up on, scoring might go up but it's gone down so it's gotta be because of all the big plays called back on Offence by very suspect very iffy nothing to do with the play at all penalties. Oh and just before anyone says otherwise, League wide. Not just the bombers, league wide, you see it every game. Big plays called back because of a weak marginal at best call that goes against the offence. I heard earlier in the season, i believe when Glenn Johnson was a guest on TSN in studio, i believe he mentioned that this year they changed things up a bit in terms of the reffing crews, in years past, for example kim murphy would work with the same crew game in game out, so would andre proulx and so on and so on, head ref with the same crew week in week out, game in game out, this year, that's not the case. I wonder if that has something to do with the amount of penalties being called.

sounds like he couldn't hear due to a headset issue, not because the crowd was making noise which they really weren't. It's one of those situations where who really knows what actually happened but based on what has been said, not sure why they couldn't inform the refs of the headset issues. Thought if the headset wasn't working properly then you are allowed to change helmets or something, seen other teams do it a few times this year. Hard to say how much time was left when he didn't hear the call too, if its under 5 seconds or even close to that, not really much time to call an audible is there.

Riders have given up, they gave up the second durant got hurt... you could just see it in their body language, they even gave up vs ottawa and got lucky that Hank is Frank.

why is this topic on a blue bomber fan forum? Shouldn't it be on the rider fans or general discussion part?

Players are definitely responding, it's pretty obvious they fight till the end, last years team would have given up completely. The problem this year seems to be lack of depth, injuries, a few bad breaks, a few non calls.... When we were winning we were pretty healthy, but You know what.. You lose Moore,Wild,Anderson and several other lesser known foot soldiers and you got problems. We have some talent but overall, when we have guys that get hurt, we don't have guys to come in and step up. Somewhat expected especially in the lack of canadian depth issue, that's not a problem that will solve itself in one or 2 off seasons, that's gonna take a while and i believe the lack of depth is definitely showing on special teams, thats where most your depth players see the most action, i don't think it's a coincidence that the special teams have struggled this season.

I agree completely. Kelly,Bryant,Denmark,Watson,Kohlert don't scare anyone. Put moore in instead of Romby and you got a pretty solid group there. Moore is also the big play guy so having him not in the lineup means teams can concentrate more on the other guys (mainly denmark)

Honestly, not exactly sure what you are talking about here. Not exactly relevant to the original topic of a guy from CJOB tweeting o'shea saying something that he didn't actually say. Did you read the original post in this thread? Basically what happened was McCullough made something totally up and was called out on it. The guy completely made it up. Basically, McCullough went all national enquirer on twitter and instead of reporting the truth, made it up completely.

Those pro-media fans should go over to bluebombes.com and check out the o'shea post game press conference and try to decipher what most of those bumbling damn near drunk fools in the media are asking him. It's ridiculous, Lawless goes on and on and on, Friesen sounds like he's some creepy pervert all the time, wicek sounds clueless, Man I honestly don't know how O'shea and Maurice with the Jets for that matter deals with that crap, it's embarrassing to listen too as a fan actually.

You are cherry picking the stats there a little too much in 2 of those games he had 16 catches 190 yards... the other game, 3 catches for 20 yards 5 for 100 3 for 63 1 for 9 7 for 101 1 for 11 3 for 21 7 for 96 3 for 20 9 for 94 Not exactly consistent and reliable. Has a big game then goes MIA for a while.

But thats not what they asked or said that pissed him off, seriously dude,, the cjob reporter on the sidelines keith mccullough or whatever his name is tweeted something he thought o'shea said when o'shea actually didn't say it... Wouldn't that piss you off too? If not then you haven't been paying much attention to how O'shea operates. Wont throw players under the bus and the tweet the CJOB reporter sent out implied that Oshea threw Lirim under the bus when in fact he didn't. The tweet is gone now too so what does that tell you exactly? McCullough was dead wrong. Otherwise the tweet would still be there for all to see. Oshea spent 15 seconds talking about that tweet and hasn't since. Done and Done.

Aaron Kelly shows up like once or t wice every month or so, Hardly reliable and hardly our best receiver.. Denmark is way more reliable and way better than Kelly. Kelly goes MIA too many games in a row. Then shows up one week and then doesnt the next several, he's inconsistent at best.

MOS has said basically since day 1 that he doesn't blame players in the media and never will. Says he doesn't see the point in it, neither do I really. He did say though that what he does do is make them being accountable to their team mates, shows their mistakes or bad penalties to the entire team. It's the right approach. You would think since it's been repeated so many times, pretty much every press conference, that our local media would get it by now. With the Jets starting to play soon, pretty soon the media will be doing the same to them, maybe being a little nicer though. Not sure what the medias issue is with the bombers, maybe they don't like that they have to work now to get a story, or something but... wait till the Jets start, you will have media kissing their ass one game and crapping on them the next.. Evander Kane will get a haircut or Ladd will miss a game to see the birth of his child and the media will jump on it. Our media sucks and is a huge problem here, more than some people care to admit.

Jesus christ eh, in a way they did cost us the game then... if everything else is the same, and lets say we even kick a fg on that drive instead of Peach going in untouched for the TD, 16-14... last play we don't need a TD, we kick the easy FG to win 17-16. That sucks.

So.. it's pretty obvious and we've all known it for some time now, probably a few years now actually that they are the biggest problem we have. These are 4 of our starting 5 oline the last few weeks.. January,Greaves,Morley,Jones Those 4 also were on last years Oline, Cant remember if Greaves was but January and Morley have definitely been around a while longer than just last season too. Anyone remember our oline from last year? Got QB's killed left right and centre.. 4 of those guys have started the last several weeks now, no wonder we can't do much on O. So, what does everyone think? Time to start Goossen at guard? swiston at tackle? get hinse on the roster too? Could those 3 be any worse then what we have the last several weeks from the current group of hogs? I'll keep January,Greaves,Morley but I'd play Goossen and either Swiston or if healthy Neufeld at tackle next week. Couldn't be much worse and helps the ratio too.

No he really didn't. quit going back to the sask game, let it go.. we aint talking about the sask game several weeks ago. You gonna use that sask game as an example a year from now too? Doubt it cuz i don't know if you remember a year back even, you must not cuz if you did, you'd be well aware that the oline was the same last season too, not time for the qbs to throw... guess what.. morley january greaves and jones, 4 of our starting oline the last several weeks started on that oline too. They aren't good enough and if Willy wasn't so tough, man, he'd be in a sling or walking boot or be using crutches on the sidelines like every other qb has been the last season or 2 or even 3 now. 4 of the damn oline guys are the same from years past, they are the problem and it's gonna be that way a while unfortunately, hopefully goossen can start next year, hell why not next week, could he be worse? what about swiston? hinse? could they be worse than the same crap we have been playing the last 2 or 3 hell 4 or 5 seasons on the oline.

You know why he can't go through his progressions? cuz our oline doesn't give him the time too. It's true man. He just doesn't have the time normally too look around, if the first read aint open, or aint there... he's gonna get smoked more than likely cuz our oline probably couldn't stop a pee wee team from nailing our qb. Believe what you like and what you want but it's fact there, he doesn't go through his progressions because he doesn't have the time too. Count it at times, it's 1 second 1.5 seconds, guy in his face... it's amazing that he puts up the yards he does with so little help from the guys who are paid to protect him. After every play, seriously, it seems like every play, willy is hit, he's getting up off the turf, 1.5 seconds and he's nailed.. 1.5 seconds dude, that's pathetic and that's on the oline.

Yeah guess the guy has a point, he did it a few weeks back vs the riders and hasn't since. No learning there at all.

Except Glenn has been doing this his entire career. Seriously. You have to be trolling now.