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The ALs may be the worst team in the league right now... I don't see it changing any time soon either.

Problem is the TSN announcers though aren't the be all and end all and i sometimes get the feeling, the replay people are basing what they see on what the TSN guys are saying, the TSN guys have been wrong in the past, quite often, Not that i don't believe what Suitor said, i would just like to know what the rule is from an official with the league, not a guy who calls the games and seems to think he is the be all and end all when it comes to replay reviews.

Looking to far in advance here, starting to sound like some of our media asking o'shea questions about games down the road.. One week at a time Floyd, One week at a time. This Tuesday, It's Toronto. That's the game we all should be talking about, not a game 3 4 weeks away still.

had a pretty good view of it from home on the replays and if that's the case, they got the call wrong then.. Willys foot was on the line, don't think it crossed until he released the ball though.

Agreed. Based on what I've seen allowed in other games that completed pass should have been allowed. Play was reviewed and linesman's call was confirmed. Can't complain that he did his job. What's the rule actually, does anybody actually know the rule? Cuz if it's you can't have your legs over the line of scrimmage, then the play should have stood, If it's you can't release the ball from your hands over the line of scrimmage then they got it right. The other thing is.. not making excuses but floyd and gbill are correct in saying that play has been allowed several times in the past, even this year for that matter. Gotta actually know what the real definition of that rule is.. If legs can't be over the line, it should have stood, if the ball can't be, then they got it right probably.. however, it then becomes a silly rule cuz when you throw the ball, your hand will always be past your legs unless you are some freak or leaning forward quite a bit, almost in a criss angel walking down the side of a building way...

“Our fans are absolutely going to love these innovative looks,” said CFL Commissioner Mark Cohon. “We respect tradition and our teams are very proud of our current home and away uniforms. But the CFL Signature Uniforms are intended to be bold and eye catching and push the envelope. And Reebok has worked hard with our franchises to deliver something really exciting.” Our non hardcore fans will buy these jerseys like they are going out of business said CFL Commissioner Mark Cohon. We respect the hardcore fans and their love for our tradition and are very proud to have them BUT.. these new jerseys will be ugly as sin.

Bang on. Nobody has any idea what the other options were on the play, and Marcel doesn't tell Willy where to throw the ball. He reads pre snap, he reads the defence after the snap, goes through his progressions and makes a decision. Unfortunately it was the wrong decision. End of story. And aren't mistakes expected by a rookie starting qb? Willy will learn from his mistake and probably not do it again. He made a mistake, it is what it is.

I'm surprised we didn't get more 13 men in the huddle penalties cuz from reading some of these posts on here, you'd think some of you were actually in the huddle. Blaming that pick 6 on a bad play call by the OC? i don't really get that, unless you were in the huddle, you don't know what the play call was, I highly doubt it was throw a 40 yard pass across the field, I'd be willing to bet just about anything that the OC didn't tell Willy to make that throw, That throw was on Willy.. Don't really get blaming the OC for a ball that the QB threw... never have, never will. Willy decided to make that pass, we were winning at the time, he could have thrown it away or just ate it and we would have punted and still been up by 1.. O'shea has said it many times already, unless you are in the huddle and you weren't, none of us on here were in the huddle, stop pretending some of you were.. we really have no clue what the actual play call was.

I actually don't think the Jersey is as bad as some are making it out to be, the helmet sure is nasty though and the pants don't really help but the Jersey isn't too bad overall, I like the green colour there. Eliminate the tramp stamp on the back and the Jersey by itself looks fine to me. Looks similar to the new eagles jerseys or rumoured new eagles jerseys minus the shoulder stuff but whatever really, don't own a riders jersey, don't plan on getting one any time soon. Have 3 bomber jerseys, Only really wear one, if i was to buy the new one, like the other 2 i have that i don't wear, it would just sit in the closet.

I wouldn't say that this team has a delicate psyche. They've come from behind a number of times this season and it looks like MOS has instilled an expectation to win. I have no idea why they're sticking with Grigsby at RB, but I doubt it's to protect his feelings. The coaching staff seems to be in love with him for better or worse. Maybe he's the type of guy who dominates practice and turns off in games. see the post above yours. Instead of blaming just grigsby, look at the Oline also. Dude was constantly being stuffed in the back field, what can the rb do, any running back for that matter do when he always has 2 or 3 if not more guys in his face the second he gets the ball.

Yeah, it was hard to stomach, almost as hard as watching the riders only score points off our turnovers pretty much.. This is the thing with Messam, if we didn't turn the ball over so much, Messam wouldn't have mattered really.. It comes down to our turnovers. Messam didn't win the game for the riders, The Riders D won the game for the riders. And for all that Messam did, we still had the lead late in the game until an ill advised pretty telegraphed wide side throw by our QB.. Messam could have ran for 200 yards, wouldn't have really mattered if not for that pick 6.

Trade (insert backup player here) for (insert young canadian here)

I'd agree with the first one but the rest are pretty unrealistic and some what laughable.. sit one of your best db's who you notice quite a bit on D, and not cuz he's being beat but because he's always the guy making plays out there? washington lead us in tackles last night, he didn't get beat at all really on defence, he was make tackles that other guys were whiffing on. I don't get sitting Washington the DB, i get not letting him return kicks but punishing our Defence because washington, who is a beast out there on D fumbled a kick return is pretty crazy. Swiston for Westerman? Suber for Tim Brown? Why stop there, why not brohm for ricky ray.

It's quite apparent that the Oline is not good enough and if the coaches felt jarvis jones was he answer to solve all our oline problems, he would be playing. The fact he isn't i'd say speaks volumes, Did jones look good last season? sure i guess, compared to boatman he did but... he's not playing for a reason. One guy wouldn't make much of a difference on the OLINE right now.. It's more than one guy, some people just like to single out certain players but reality is, it's the entire oline, not just one or 2 guys.

How about... sask leaeds the league in rushing by a fair amount and has played like 4 or 5 different RB'S in their games, It's pretty apparent even going back to last season with Sheets that it doesn't really matter who sask puts back there to run the ball, with that oline, they will be able to run. You put Messam here and he doesn't look nearly as impressive. Seriously, every RB sask has put back there this year and last year now has put up big numbers.. Sheets,Allen,Charles even had a big half, Ford, Messam.. Doesn't matter who, they put up the yards.

again with the tramp stamp on the back?

Ha, you freak out about the fact that I don't think Washington is our second best DB and then call out the guy who is literally carrying this team. And I'm the negatron... good one. Willy had a 66% plus completion percentage until the last two minutes when we were trying to force the win. We wouldn't have been trying to force things without that fumble on the return. Besides those long hitch passes are classic MB... but enough with this 'Willy sucked' bullshit. This is the real head scratcher, the Bombers were in the lead when Willy threw that cross field pick-6 so he shouldn't have been trying to force anything at that point. Without a ground game he has fewer options to play conservatively so he went with a play he had used earlier in the game with success but this time he telegraphed it completely. You know you're right...! I forgot the 60 yard pass to Denmark and then the corner route to Kohlert... that was halfway through the fourth quarter right? Like in the second half when WIlly sucked...? I get mixed up sometimes... Apparently. You know its ok to blame the QB for a bad throw though, I'm not saying Willy is awful, I'm just saying that one pass he made that lead to the pick 6 is on him. You are blaming everyone but the guy that threw the pass. This is where i get lost, you blame MB for the pick 6 but no credit to him for calling that play to denmark but crap on him because he called that pick 6 play? Can't have it both ways there can you? Doesn't really make sense to crap on MB for the late pick 6 but not give the OC any credit for the other things you mentioned. Is this how it works? If a play works, it's all because of Willy, if it doesn't, its cuz of the OC? Cuz that's essentially what you are saying here.

I really don't get how anyone can say Willy didn't struggle last night.. sure he got pressured, yeah he got sacked but he was the guy that threw that pick 6 late in the game to give SASK the lead. It doesn't mean i think WIlly sucks, i actually think he's very good but... to blame the OC for that when none of us have any idea what the play call actually was is the real BS part. Willy threw that pass, that one was on him. He's a rookie qb, he's gonna make mistakes and unfortunatey last night, his mistake(s) cost us.

hell, even with the washington fumble... thats just 7 points on that interception right there, instead of losing by 6, win by 1. Yeah the line sucked tonight, Wasn't at the game but they showed wylie a few times on tv and every time he was taking notes of some kind. Probably not too impressed tonight at all. Oline needs to step up. BIG TIME. But i guess, they are what they are and it's gonna take some time for them to actually get better. Are we the worst oline in the league? Nope, but... we certainly aren't even close to being one of the best. I find it hard to blame them though for Willys decision to throw a 40 yard pass across the field like that... but still... Willy has to take some blame for that, he was the guy that threw the ball.. I want to call our oline Ondrej Pavelec, and by that what i mean is, If they are just average, don't have to be the best, just be average, i think we could do some good things. But they appear to be pretty below average right now and are really what is holding us back. No run game, Willy getting killed and hurried the last several games. Oline getting worse, sure they have some injuries to deal with but... Guess when it comes to the oline, gotta be patient, no quick fixes out there, it's gonna take time, I mean, maybe we can look to upgrade our tackles, January included but... It's gonna take drafting to truly fix it. I thought the interior though played pretty decent for the most part though but our tackles got owned several times tonight... They all had issues but, the tackles didn't look good at all and they are Imports (internationals). Tackles couldn't handle Chick. He lined up a little bit wider & they couldn't get out of their stance fast enough or have the foot speed to handle his jump off the snap of the ball. Chick & Charleston Hughes are the two best D ends in the CFL. Yup, the tackles had troubles stopping CHICK all night long... Not sure what game some were watching if they thought January was one of our best Oline tonight. I thought him and howard got absolutely owned and more so January actually. Some folks should watch the replay and just watch the tackles and more specifically January, He did not play well at all. Honestly, from my sober view on my couch at home, January looked the worst tonight... By far. Then howard but...January got owned pretty much every play. Chick was in the NFL for a bit wasn't he or got a shot at least? Honestly after watching this game and several others this season involving the Riders, i can see why.. The guy is probably too good of a player for the CFL, not a shot at the CFL at all, just i really think he's one of the best Defensive Ends in the league, Maybe the best actually. Wish we had a guy like that on our team.. I like our D actually, but man, we are really missing that pass rushing dominant defensive end, paging alex hall or justin hickman

Why the hell would we sign matthews and then trade him? That makes zero sense... and as much as i like Allen, what has he done exactly? He's shown he can run behind SASKs oline, just like Ford, Charles,Messam and really name a guy, whoever they put in at RB, puts up big rushing yards....It's really irrelevant who is back there for them, This is the same team that leads the league in rushing and have used like 5 or 6 different backs so far in 5 games... What does that tell you? Tells me, it's not the running back, it's the oline.

hell, even with the washington fumble... thats just 7 points on that interception right there, instead of losing by 6, win by 1. Yeah the line sucked tonight, Wasn't at the game but they showed wylie a few times on tv and every time he was taking notes of some kind. Probably not too impressed tonight at all. Oline needs to step up. BIG TIME. But i guess, they are what they are and it's gonna take some time for them to actually get better. Are we the worst oline in the league? Nope, but... we certainly aren't even close to being one of the best. I find it hard to blame them though for Willys decision to throw a 40 yard pass across the field like that... but still... Willy has to take some blame for that, he was the guy that threw the ball.. I want to call our oline Ondrej Pavelec, and by that what i mean is, If they are just average, don't have to be the best, just be average, i think we could do some good things. But they appear to be pretty below average right now and are really what is holding us back. No run game, Willy getting killed and hurried the last several games. Oline getting worse, sure they have some injuries to deal with but... Guess when it comes to the oline, gotta be patient, no quick fixes out there, it's gonna take time, I mean, maybe we can look to upgrade our tackles, January included but... It's gonna take drafting to truly fix it. I thought the interior though played pretty decent for the most part though but our tackles got owned several times tonight... They all had issues but, the tackles didn't look good at all and they are Imports (internationals).

Gotta agree that Buff, if he doesn't want to resign here, should be moved at the deadline this season or next even, preferably this cuz 2015 is a better draft class and i think a team would probably give up a 1st round pick and a prospect for him, if they felt they needed him to legit compete for the cup. Always thought Anaheim or Tampa Bay would be good fits for Buff and they have some pretty solid prospects actually who are Probably if not, are very close to being NHL ready but really no place for them on the big clubs roster.

The last thing i will say, cuz it's bed time is.... the louie richardson roughing penalty on special teams... Was it because the returners helmet came off? or was it actually late? Cuz to me, it looked like they didn't throw a flag until the returners helmet came off, was that actually a legit call? Or like the stamps call a few weeks ago where they called the result of the play, not the actual play itself really..... was it a case of just the refs seeing the guys helmet come off cuz... On tv, it didn't look like it was that late, if at all. And Chamblin challenging the pass interference on a ball that was caught? Seriously bro? Talk about a waste of time... Lots of weird things in this game tonight.... O'shea seemed more animated on the sidelines, riders seem to like to tackle guys high too, saw lots of what could have been horse collar type "clothesline" type tackles, even on the demond fumble, there was what looked to be a very high almost facemask grabbing type of attempt at a tackle...On that play Willy almost got hurt badly, he was down and the sask player hit him low on his leg.. should that not have been called? they called something on that play but... don't believe it was for the late low hit on the already downed qb.... Not blaming the refs cuz thought they did a good job but... Couple iffy calls there, those didn't cost us the game, the turnovers, i guess that last play of the game counts as one too, so 6 in total cost us but still... Riders seem kind of like a bit of a dirty team.

Fact is, as much as i agree, these new jerseys are about making money, if you want a royal blue jersey, bomber store sells them. That's the bottom line here with reebok and the CFL.... making money. They already are selling the royal blues, i got one. I don't care for this new third jersey too much but i'll be the first to admit that i'll bet they sell a fair amount of them. I have a Royal blue vintage #5 Dieter Brock. I want to see the team wear them. That's the difference. Kenny Ploen for me and I agree, i want them to wear them too but... really, IMO, i don't care really what type of jersey they wear, Yeah i'd also prefer they wear the royal blues all the time cuz i think they are probably the nicest jersey in all of Football for that matter, NFL included (new eagles jerseys look nice though) but really... It's not that important in the big picture.

Wasn't too happy with the lack of screens or passes out in the flats, if you can't run the ball, find another way to get grigsby involved, swing passes, little screens, didn't really see much of that. I feel the riders are prone to that, They have a good dline but if you can get your backs out in the flats against them, man... theres lots of open field, not enough little 2 or 3 yard passes to the back tonight, cost us a bit.. riders were sending the house at times cuz they knew we weren't going to run... almost got WIlly killed and seriously Injured there because of it too. Not impressed with some of the plays calls at all. MB has done a pretty good job so far this season actually but really didn't think too much of some of the plays call or lack there of actually tonight.