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Last nite was not a hallmark evening for Vince McMahon and the WWE. Even Good "Ol Stephanie had something up her sleeve - trying to screw up Daniel Bryan's new wife, Brie Bella and having Kane do the old trick of coming up thru hell (aka the ring mattress). A throwaway episode if there ever was. Even the Austrian Strong Man taking on Jack Swagger for the 40th straight time. swiss superman cesaro you mean? Well that makes sense that story, i mean they were former tag partners just about a month ago. Cesaro just joined heyman recently. That feud makes sense. Last nights was awesome, the opening was hella cool. bray wyatt and the choir kids, that was a cool thing to see.

im not opposed to trading kane if we get a good return on him. Really IMO the only untouchables are trouba bogo (cuz he signed a long term deal), wheeler scheif and little im gonna say. The rest IMO are fair game.

You'd think we learn by now that nothing in drafts is ever painfully obvious. There are always surprises. true enough. Just looking at the needs of teams tho, ottawa? i dunno what they do, they could take lavertu or smith or foucault or heck someone else even, who knows. but wpg and edmonton will definitely be eyeing oline and think montreal takes bailey if ottawa doesnt. so i just dont see montreal at 4 or bc at 5 moving up a few spots and also going down a few spots (giving up their second rounder) to just move up to take a guy who in all liklihood (i understand surprises happen) is there when they are picking anyways.

kings win in a route. san jose is blown up this off season.

that shot down theory might gain some ground if that plane is found in the bay of bengal tho. I dunno, i hope we get some answers here. It is a huge mystery and interesting. I hope in my lifetime i find out what happened but i get the feeling that it might take a while.

doubt pallister wins anyways but dont want to talk politics. will say NDP sucks but PC's arent any better. As far as this rabb fella goes, he's not a city of winnipeg representative, he's sam katz's friend... atleast sheegl worked for the city, and yes i understand he was also sammys buddy but... seems like the bombers want an actual rep from the C.O.W. so cant say i disagree with them as rabb is not a rep but a friend of sammys.

went with the no option here, but agree with 17to85 first post. If we can get for a late round pick, do it. If not, nope.

This all depends on what the word on Quinn Smith is... if he is rated better than Westerman, I think there's a lot of interest to trade up for #2 pick (then again, I would be wondering we we aren't picking him...) Only reason to trade down is to still pick Goossen and another starting player - our NI depth is what will kill us this year. I just think its very obvious that lavertu goosen and foucault will go 1 2 and 3, maybe not that order but... ott wpg edmonton all need oline help badly. Pretty obvious montreal needs a receiver, bc probably would still get smith when they pick at 5 just based on needs really. I just dont see trades happening here. If anything maybe we trade a pick in next years draft (what about a first in next years draft for edmonton or bcs first in this years??? ) or first round 2015 for bcs 1st and 2nd rder this year or montreals. Think thats more likely then trading out of the 2 spot.

just gonna throw some crap on the wall here, see if it sticks. Is this a fair trade for kane To florida for the 1st overall and brandon pirri plus rights to mike matheson (d man) is that a fair trade? i think it might be. Im not sure florida would make that trade but.. if i was them, id consider it. Florida is in a situation where they need to win but... they are so young that i dunno if it can be done anytime soon. They got luongo right now and brian campbell as their 2 best players (outside of barkov) but these guys are proven solid players. They arent exactly spring chickens. does kane speed up their rebuild more then the number 1 pick would? Like i said, just throwing crap on the wall.

short video about a minute 20 seconds long on the sun site. not much said tho. basically what was said here really already. I highly doubt we trade down, actually... its highly unlikely teams would trade up with us... it makes no sense for them too. everyone and their mother knows we need a center... why would montreal or bc gives us 2 picks for 2 picks from us. They are gaining nothing. Pretty apparent ottawa takes lavertu or smith, pretty obvious wpg takes lavertu or goosen, edmonton will take one of goosen or foucault, montreal will take bailey.. bc will take a DL (whether that be smith or gill) There is no need for those teams to move up 2 spots really... and dont forget, ottawa could take lavertu, we could trade our pick and then that team or edmonton could take the other center. Leaving us pretty much out of luck. We will take a center, its painfully obvious. Its lavertu or goosen. Mark it down boys, thats who it will be.

I think its been obvious all off season that we were targeting a center olineman. Im not sure why anyone (one guy) would be surprised by this. We all know it. We have known it for a long time. This isnt the first time walters has mentioned wanting a center either.

I agree. I think Winnipeg has more passion for the Bombers than Calgary does for the Stamps. People love the Flames but I don't sense that burning desire that Jets fans have here. I was at the Jets game here 2 weeks ago & they had 18,000 at the game. Easily a quarter of the crowd was cheering for the Jets. watched the game on tv and i thought it was more then half the crowd cheering for the jets, everywhere i looked on tv, jets jersey after jets jersey. It was quite the sight. It was beautiful. I was high up.Both fanbases treated each other well & with respect where I was sitting. No fights. Just everyone having a good time. Flames & Jets fans. We all knew our teams were out of the playoffs so I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. If these were Rider fans, there's be a lot of jackoff @$$***** looking for trouble. actually thought there was a fight in the lowerbowl, at one point it looked like it actually. everyones heads were turned. was told 2 drunk jets fans got into a brawl with eachother tho. I dunno, maybe that was earlier in the season tho.

I agree. I think Winnipeg has more passion for the Bombers than Calgary does for the Stamps. People love the Flames but I don't sense that burning desire that Jets fans have here. I was at the Jets game here 2 weeks ago & they had 18,000 at the game. Easily a quarter of the crowd was cheering for the Jets. watched the game on tv and i thought it was more then half the crowd cheering for the jets, everywhere i looked on tv, jets jersey after jets jersey. It was quite the sight.

If you can call 18 goals in an 82 game season a GOAL SCORER!!! But Evander has a pile of excuses - self-inflicted injuries, infections, bad coach, new bad coach, linemates with stubby hands, linemates with no hands. Trouble is - at this point he's untradeable as a 30 goal scorer - cuz he's NOT a 30 goal scorer. He's a 15 to 20 goal scorer and for 6 million a year, thats not only a money blow - its a formula for golf in April. actually in todays world, 6 million does seem to get you about a 25-30 goal scorer. You need to take a look at some of the guys making that type of money and you will see, kane is pretty good value for what he brings. Seem to have a dislike for the guy, thats fine but dont kid yourself that he isnt tradable, he's very very very tradable. He'd get the jets a very nice return for sure. Whether you think so or not.

im not talking about atlanta, im talking about the JETS and i honestly doubt the jets would have taken him. The jets take high character guys.. Kane isnt a high character guy. They probably would have taken schenn cuz he does indeed fit the mold of the player the jets seem to like.

the last raptors playoff game was the 2nd highest rated basketball game in tsn history. So people care but... maybe not that much. The ratings are good but compared to hockey and even the CFL, its a fraction. Calgary tho? i dunno. Has to be a combo of things, new people not caring, old people getting tired of the same old same old, regular season champs playoff chokers stuff. Doesnt make sense tho, however i was watching a flames game later in the year and noticed lots of empty seats too. Maybe Calgary just isnt that big of a sports town.

Not really paying that much attention to most games, no teams i really like besides the blackhawks are in it anymore... i was pulling for a team like columbus, just would have been cool to see them atleast get by the pens. But i will say this, the reffing in 2 games ive watched has been absolutely terrible. The non call against the avs for basically tackling the wild player when the avs had noone in net and then 2 seconds later, the missed offside. Brutal. Then tonight san jose vs la, not blaming the refs for the sharks choking, thats what they do but that second goal where stalock was pushed in the net was garbage. Sharks would have lost anyways but still... brutal call. Will also add, been watching the colorado minny series and, i dunno, that is one heck of an exciting series. Everyone talks about how minny plays such a boring defensive style of hockey, i dunno if its cuz they playing the high tempo ultra talented avs but... man thats been probably the best series so far. Very exciting. Annoying that next round we will see another all california matchup. Not a fan of the california teams at all. Sharks gonna lose game 7 so we gonna get kings vs ducks.... i think im gonna make a prediction of avs vs habs final (lol not gonna happen) (but that would probably be the best series storyline wise) honestly, im gonna say boston vs chicago final.

hmm, bc could always go with lulay and a couple rookies. seems a few teams are going that route this year so far (montreal being one, hamilton also) I dont think wally really wants glenn that badly, i dont think he's willing to overpay for him, i guess we will see what happens. I get the feeling tho that glenn starts this season as a redblack.

i agree with the 2nd post of the thread but i do have to say... that i wonder why that isnt used as an excuse here? winnipeg is a very diverse city too, as a matter of fact, we have won awards for being one of the most diverse cities in canada. We got people from all over. I go to bomber games, i see people from all over there, its not just people born in manitoba, there are phillipinos and asians and all sorts of different varities of people. Minneapolis is as close to us (closer) then seattle is to calgary, they got an nfl team, heck so is green bay and chicago for that matter. I dont know what the deal is with calgary but.... id suspect a lot of it has to do with the lack of marketing. The flames suck, the seahawks arent close enough imo for it to be a major factor in calgarys attendance, its also at different times of year so i dont think i buy into that theory too much. I guess, that leaves... people just dont care as much in calgary about the CFL as they used too. Maybe its cuz calgary is always so good in the regular season but choke in the playoffs? i dunno. Id suspect if the stamps won the grey cup that next seasons attendance would be much higher. I dunno tho. Ive been to calgary to see a bomber game and honestly, in my humble opinion, i thought there were more bomber fans in attendance. You never see that here, ive never been to a game here where the visiting fans out numbered the local fans.

was into this big time the first couple weeks but then it became pretty apparent that something was being covered up, the malaysians werent and i dont think still are telling the whole truth on what happened. Heres my theory, i got 2, one was already explained, the massive mechanical failure. The other... it was shot down by the us military base at diego garcia. I heard theories and i suppose conspiracies that the plane was carrying some interesting cargo, something to do with military stuff, there were a few guys from that freescale semiconductors group on there, specializing in military stuff. so its possible the plane was indeed shot down. I dunno and to be honest, i dont care anymore as much because its just been going on and on and on for too long. CNN ruined it for me, too much "breaking news" "developing news". I do tho find it odd that the plane apparently wasnt tracked by anyone. Its all so suspicious. it makes you wonder if the plane ever actually existed even lol (obviously it did)

Nate: whats your issue with kane? the guy is what? 22 23 years old, has put up 30 one year, on pace for 30 lockout year, would have probably had 30 this year if not injured for so long at times, would have had 20 had he not passed it to peluso on the empty net earlier. But as i said b4, if the jets were around in 2009 and were drafting 3rd in that draft year, would they have taken kane? i dunno they would have. Jets seem to value high character guys, guys without attitude issues. say what you will about kane but he does indee have character issues. But outside of what kane does off the ice, cuz really who cares.... what makes you dislike him so much? you talk about wheeler playing with slugs, kane played with jokinen, who is the definition of a slug.

wheeler is a very good player but he's definitely not a crosby getzlaf perry or whatever tho. However, he can be a point a game player and was for the last 30 or so games of the season. Im not sure how this point a game thing works, cuz guys like crosby getzlaf etc, they all go on these points sprees where they get tons of points in a few games then are invisible for a few. Im not sure anyone is technically a point per game player, maybe crosby but... you also have to look at who he plays with. Crosby is on a stacked penguins team, getzlaf and perry are team and line mates. wheeler dont have a crosby or getzlaf or perry to play with. You put him with one of those guys tho and i think he does become a point per game player. He almost is right now. Is wheeler one of the best players in the league? its debatable, is he the best jet player? for sure he is, would he more then likely be our all star nomination, you bet he would be. Wheeler has improved every year, ever since coming here actually, guys been good, is he crosby or getzalf or perry? no but who is really. Comparing wheeler to those guys are crazy actually.. like i said tho, give wheeler a crosby or getzlaf or perry to play with and he probably is.

rask is one of the best goalies in the league, he does steal games for the bruins, quite a bit actually. Boston is a good team but they arent invincible, they have bad games too and when they do, rask is there for them. Rasks save percentage on scoring chances is 916, the league average on scoring chance save percentage is 880. Yeah he's just average . This idea that boston has this great team is crazy, sure they are good but... their d outside of chara and seidenberg(but hasnt he been injured all year really) consist of rookies like krug, dougie hamilton, matt bartkowski, aint exactly household names outside of chara.

Petan is one of the best players in the WHL, who cares if he's 5'9. mary st louis and a bunch of guys are smaller guys but they dont play like smaller guys. Neither does Petan, ive seen him play actually a few times and the guy is brendan gallagher, he is small but he has no issues going in to the corners, going to the front of the net, is a play maker for sure, put petan with kane and look out actually. I feel kane will be moved tho, and petan probably wont be up here for another year or 2 but if he develops, man he's gonna be a good one. If he was 6' plus tall, he would have probably been a top 20 or at worst top 25 pick cuz he is that good.