Jesse

Unless you let him go and you end up left with [insert promising back-up who couldn't make the leap to starter].

That's pretty hard thing to determine for a fan. But Eli was absent but will now be going into year 2 of his return. Time for the switch if he's the guy we think he is. Who cares tho? Someone will be GM next year.

This was the best defence in the league. We need to recruit some younger guys. We need more bodies to rotate with the Jeffs. And it was a mistake or a failure to not have found someone last off season. Even Haba was a last minute addition on the last day of training camp. None of our depth DE's from 2022 came back this year and we didn't replace them. Defensive line: Willie - I think he's the guy as long as he wants to be. Jeffcoat - Our D is night and day when he's not in the line-up Walker - not sure about his contract sitch. If he's a FA, I imagine he's gone. Thomas - Another retire candidate, but needs to be a back-up/rotational guy if he's here. I think this is a spot where we could be playing a younger guy tho #succession Haba - showed a couple flashes early but didn't have many opportunities, would have liked to see him developed more. ______ - same as receiver. We needed bodies here that could be good to go for next year. Big recruiting fail. Linebackers: Bighill - Hall of Famer, and the Grey Cup was obviously his worst performance in a game he should not have been allowed to play. Wilson - Didn't have the impact plays I expected him to have this year, but clearly a good part of the team. Krahmdi - I don't know. He's a solid part of the team. I've seen misses, I'm seen big plays. League best defence. Cole - I love what I see out of him. Hopefully get a bigger role Clements - Just like Cole, he certainly seems to do his job out there. This is another spot I'd like to see some true competition. Roster management wise, I'd like 3 less LBs on the gameday roster for extra DL/DB/WR. Secondary: I don't think I need to go through everyone here. We have lots of capable guys, we seem to find new ones each year and have to play them all because of injuries. Keep on keeping on, imo.

Breaking down the offence. I generally want things to stay the same/can't see better options out there. Big question with Schoen, small question with Brady. I would really, really like to see some young OL just take jobs and turn our front into a bigger force again. Will need some investment in WR and OL next year for development and depth. Might need the next developmental QB, too. Quarterbacks: Zach - ***** all you guys want, he's going no where. Dru Brown - heard some interesting things lately. I'm more open to the idea he might come back than I was earlier in the season. Runningback: Brady - obviously want him back, but he's put a little fly in the ointment on that one. Would need a new starter if he left. Offensive Line: Stan - coin flip on if he retires. I bet a lot of the vets are going to make this decision together. I feel he'll be back Neuf - Kind of a prime retirement candidate. Does he do what Stan does? Kolankowski - I'm done with this experiment. Gray - Don't have enough bodies to replace the whole interior, if it comes to that. Hardrick - He'll play until they rip the jersey off his back. No one will do that. Eli - Need him to have the off season of his life and force his way onto the starting roster Dobson - Same. Put up or shut up time. Receivers: Kenny - Paid way too much for next year, but he can be best. Need him to play a full season next year tho. No more crap. Schoen - Grey Cup notwithstanding, he's a beast. When Zach is able to be mobile in the pocket, no one is more dangerous. Bailey - another team friendly deal? We may need some rookie salaries in the rest of the receiving core. Demski/Woli - all signed up already? BOO - Probably moves onto another opportunity if he can, but bring him back if we can ________ - I wish we had a guy this year that I could look forward to next year. Recruiting fail at receiver this year.

Yeah, the TV's gonna remain off for a little while. No interest in seeing any of that.

100%

Meh. We haven't needed to go into FA much, it's not that we're trying to sign guys and they go elsewhere. Aside from this year, our recruitment has been pretty spectacular. But we didn't leave much space for newbies this season, for sure.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and defend MOS. I don't like the use of an American FB, or starting Biggie and Schoen when they were not at their best, or not having a back-up for the secondary or receiving core. I just don't think that's what it cam down to tonight. We were one play away on a night when either our O or our D should have been able to run the table. So we can debate the minutiae that might have gotten us that 5% to take us over the edge, but I'm more concerned with why both halves of our team just ****ed off tonight. Is Zach the issue? Is Buck out smarting himself? Do the Jeff's need more time in between plays? Do we need a more emotional leadership core that can bring the energy in important moments? I just can't believe the answer is in replacing a FB or having Ambles start instead of McCrea.

I accept that you have experience that I don't. But like any job ever, there's not a definite way of running things. Every manager, coach, boss has their own way of organizing things, so I won't sit here and believe that every coach does "this". Yes, MOS is the boss and can decide every detail. But no one is going to work with him and stay under him if he's forcing them to work with players that they don't want. It goes against everything we've heard from every player and coach about how this thing is run.

I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to accept. This is just gossip. And not even specific gossip. What's not well? I accept a lot of crap form this year, I've complained as much as anyone about the roster management decisions and the offences inability to get it going...but MOS and Walters? I don't know where that's coming from and don't but into it right now.

But which coach? Ya'll blaming MOS when it's the coordinators making these decisions.

Yeah, that sounds like BS. They have two different jobs making two different sets of decisions. Walters wasn't just sitting at home drinking coffee all year.

That is such a generic thing to say though. Today, in this game, our starters did not win this game. Zach didn't sustain drives. Our D let CoFaj walk all over them.

Yes. We ran it back after a 15-3 year. We did 14-4 and came up 4 points short. There are some things that hurt us and hopefully some quality recruiting shores those spots up.

Yeah, sure. I just don't care about them mostly. Not what cost us today. Today was the failure of the starting crew. Our line is good enough. We have some up and comers to push. Our receiving core should be great. Our RB has been great. Our DL has the starters but we need to go back to rotating quality depth. Our LBs should be good if our depth takes the next step. We have an abundance of DBs. There's no one position group where we're too old. It's just a few guys who should be forced to earn their spots.

I don;t remember, but it would make sense.

Obviously we've taken advantage of some weak teams. 2021 was entirely because we brought back our Grey Cup roster while everyone else was staggering.

Yes, they have to make some changes, but do you want to start a rebuild or reload?

It's MOS himself. How old was he when he retired? And probably thought he could still do it.

I feel like if someone said this to you pre-season, you'd give them the eye roll emoji. 14-4 and a Grey Cup appearance. Our stars did not rise to the occasion tonight. but we're one play away from winning. This is not a wholesale change kind of situation.

No one can argue this point. We all said it all week leading up to the game.

I just consider Thomas a guy, I think he's a part of the rotation at this point and, if he's back, isn't getting a number of snaps that's hurting us. IMO. Alexander is not what he once was, but isn't causing me to lose sleep either. Yes, I always want competition. But I don't think this is a team that needs wholesale changes. I don't want to cut everyone over 30 just because we lost the last game of the season.

It's Buck's offense. I don't think I can accept that MOS is telling Buck who he needs to play, either. All I know is what we've always been told. That they communicate and dialogue about everything, The GM's job is to go out and get what the HC needs.

It might be 50/50. I can see a couple vets retiring, I can see them coming back. Biggie is the only guy who's age and play has me concerned, I'd like to see a real competition along the OL next year. There's our kids in the pipeline who are ready or they're not.

Will we pay them more than other teams?