Jesse

I guess it depends on why they're digging in their heels.

I imagine if this went through, those part time Canadians would be paid less and back-up imports (who meet the nationalized criteria) would earn more. I don't think guys like Woli and Thomas have the same earning power if they're benched half the time.

Before it was essentially 5.5 (4 starters and 3 guys playing 51%). Now it would be 6.

100% And again, half the roster and the vast majority of starter spots are American. So I think the CFL has shown that it matters very much. And reward those guys who do it with opportunities. Whether that be coaching positions for former players like Hufnagel and Dickenson or alternate opportunities for current players like Bighill. Not sure what you're arguing about. We do all that. But as a National league, it's also important that with all of these Canadian dollars being spent, we place of focus on people here AS WELL (not instead of, like you keep pretending I'm saying). When Andrew Harris came to a school I was teaching at and pointed at the field outside the window and told students he would cut across that field every day...It hits different. Canadian born and bred players tend to live in Canada and spend their pay cheques in Canada. Americans go home spend their money there. Yes, the long term guys might move here eventually, but that's a pretty small percentage of the amount of guys that come through the league each year.

I said it was not a "major league". It is obviously a professional league. But includes a mandate that helps drive national interests.

Is that a CFL ball? Or some local team called the "mustangs" or something?

Yes. And the CFL gives them a platform in which to do that, but we also need a platform to promote all of the Canadian benefits I listed earlier. Half the roster is American. 17 starter positions. Plenty of room for the "best players" to come in and make their mark. And here's a key point on which we disagree, I guess. But the CFL isn't a major league. It's a nationalized league much closer to the CHL, KHL than it is to any of the "big 4". It exists for a purpose, and that purpose isn't the same as those other leagues - not entirely anyway. Harris is the ultimate example of a guy who most likely doesn't get a shot if not for the ratio. And we would have missed out on his career - a guy who has been in countless schools as the local kid with a rough upbringing who turned it around. This is the ultimate argument for the ratio. The literal poster boy.

We don’t have a Canadian national hockey team, so I don’t see the point you’re making. Our league has been heavily subsidized by the government and tax payers and needs to benefit Canadians. That means roster spots, guaranteed spots (and competitive contracts that comes with starting), keeping the wages earned (which come from Canadian ticket buyers) in the Canadian economy as much as possible. It is not *only* about fielding the best team possible. It’s also about benefiting Canada and Canadians.

Yes, but it’s a national league. Whether you agree or not, one of the purposes of the league is help grow grass roots football, employ Canadians, keep wages in Canada, etc. It is not simply about importing the best Americans possible. Otherwise we’d all just watch the NFL.

Holy ****, that would have been something to see.

Does this count as a competitive advantage in any way?

Small school..low production… I don’t know if a scout ever got in 50 square miles of him.

I very much doubt it will be on Disney+, just saying I'd watch if it was. I will definitely not pay to watch any of these fake start up leagues, but might check it out if it was convenient. Also, keep in mind that Disney is not just cartoons, it's star wars, marvel, Fox (simpsons, family guy, etc). I watch Disney+, my kids watch Netflix. I understand that coaches aid in development, the league you described sounded more guys who had flunked out (no more development to be had). Anyways, it would never happen for every reason imaginable.

I don't have cable, but if XFL games showed up on Disney+, I'd watch them. Get enough eyeballs and it could turn into a money deal. But I have no faith in any american spring league. A Canadian spring league is simply laughable, I'm sorry. We have enough trouble finding eyeballs for the CFL, who would watch the misfits unable to hook onto the CFL? It would never get on TV. And it would never involve scouts or coaches because these are already the guys who proved they couldn't make it (also, this is one of the goals of the global initiative, so they'd get zero help from anyone).

I guess he honestly didn't have any other options. But works for me!

Yeah, but someone will get hurt or underperform (Cornelius, for example) and he'll get a shot. If Edmonton is shopping him, teams will just wait and see if he gets released. But if a need comes up for someone, his value increases.

He'll either get his opportunity in Edmonton or he'll get traded elsewhere (again). There are never enough QBs to have one sitting on the bench.

I had no idea they put him down. Now I'm upset.

Are those real people?

We say Fort Hew around these parts

It is two seperate negotiation points, three even. 1. Hard increases to cap 2. Extra pot of money reserved for community appearances (previously done for free) 3. Revenue sharing (when revenues exceed a certain point - the cap is increased by that amount over and above the guarenteed amount). Whether you agree it's the player's business or not, the definition of revenue, the agreed upon exceedance point, and how it will be applied to the cap - need to be very clearly defined in the CBA.

CFL is offering the players a 1.8% raise/year. If they can promise me seat/concession/merch prices wont increase by more than that number each season, I'll be more than happy to support them.

Individual teams aren't negotiating here. The only relevant information is the league as a whole. And yes, the covid years sucked for all, but we're looking at the next 7 years, not the past two. Revenue sharing is on the negotiating table and is literally, 100% the players business. Again, I don't think they need to address it from the perspective of individual teams, but the the leagues net revenue, expenses, and profit, absolutely.

I think it's more that they're not 'opening the books' and showing what the revenue is. I'm sure agreements can be made about what is in and out of bounds, but you need to have an idea of the total pot to come to that understanding. The CFL as a whole makes money. Covid years aside - and the deal on the table doesn't include any increases for this current year as a result of that - what losses are you referring to?