Brandon Posted February 3, 2017 Report Posted February 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Ducky said: Pavs has 4 wins in 6 games. Hutch has 4 wins in 17 games. *Insert the stats showing that we score 1 goal per game with Hutch and 5 goals per game with Pavs* Ducky, Judd, JCon and 1 other 4
Floyd Posted February 4, 2017 Report Posted February 4, 2017 On 2017-02-03 at 7:22 AM, Brandon said: *Insert the stats showing that we score 1 goal per game with Hutch and 5 goals per game with Pavs* We scored two goals today and lost to a goalie with a .903 sv% But I do agree that Pavelec should have been Helle's backup since day one... Instead, we're drifting along with Pavelec as our annointed starter
Goalie Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 On Friday, February 03, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Brandon said: *Insert the stats showing that we score 1 goal per game with Hutch and 5 goals per game with Pavs* Stats matter. Not sure why people still think pavelec is the answer here. 5 6 seasons of below average goaltending. That's what I don't get about the whole he makes the team play better thing... does he? Cuz he certainly hasn't for 5 6 seasons
Ducky Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Posted February 5, 2017 LA will make the playoffs and if Quick comes back and gets into shape fast, they could do some real damage in the playoffs.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Ducky said: LA will make the playoffs and if Quick comes back and gets into shape fast, they could do some real damage in the playoffs. If Quick came back b4 the tradeline Budaj would be worth quite a bunch.
Brandon Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: If Quick came back b4 the tradeline Budaj would be worth quite a bunch. 'Member when he was a winless backup for our AHL team
Floyd Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 THAT's where I remember Budaj from... Budaj/Montoya and we're a playoff team!!! All we need is good goaltending!!! Atomic 1
Brandon Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Floyd said: THAT's where I remember Budaj from... Budaj/Montoya and we're a playoff team!!! All we need is good goaltending!!! 'Member when Al Montoya had a 2.30 GAA and a 920 save % for us...
Goalie Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 11 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: If Quick came back b4 the tradeline Budaj would be worth quite a bunch. He's a goalie and not an elite one. 3rd round pick or later
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Goalie said: He's a goalie and not an elite one. 3rd round pick or later Worse then Stempy? Leading league in shutouts now. Edited February 5, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg
Floyd Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Worse then Stempy? Leading league in shutouts now. Stempniak is gone and he never even played goalie. Just accept it.
Goalie Posted February 5, 2017 Report Posted February 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Worse then Stempy? Leading league in shutouts now. Goalies have zero value unless price lundqvist types. Frederick Anderson went for 30th overall pick. Budaj isn't proven. Late pick
Floyd Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 Pavelec will have value at trade deadline... 2nd round pick, someone will be desperate and fall for his dreamy eyes
Ducky Posted February 6, 2017 Author Report Posted February 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Floyd said: Pavelec will have value at trade deadline... 2nd round pick, someone will be desperate and fall for his dreamy eyes I'd throw in Staf for a 2nd.
sweep the leg Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 19 hours ago, Goalie said: Goalies have zero value unless price lundqvist types. Frederick Anderson went for 30th overall pick. Budaj isn't proven. Late pick 1st round pick for a slightly above average goalie is a bad example to give when arguing goalies have zero value. I agree Budaj wouldn't bring much value back though. Too old and I don't trust that this season is any more than a one hit wonder.
Atomic Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 Can't see anyone giving up more than a 5th round pick for either Stafford or Pav. There's no value there.
mbrg Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/5/2017 at 0:07 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said: Worse then Stempy? Leading league in shutouts now. Plays for one of the tightest defensive teams in the league. Our keepers see more shots in a period than he sees in some games.
mbrg Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Atomic said: Can't see anyone giving up more than a 5th round pick for either Stafford or Pav. There's no value there. Eye of the beholder. Most GMs aren't message board types who let the idea of a player being soft obsess in the minds for a year. They'll look at his stats, see a guy who could get them a few timely goals and plug in on any of the top 3 lines. He has some value to a team that thinks they're contenders and want to make sure they have depth. Pavelec only has value if someone loses one of their goalies to injury. How much would you give up just to have a middling goalie on the bench for the playoffs? Probably not a lot, and with the expansion draft looming their might be a few more goalies available than usual. An abundance of goalies brings Pavs value down even further.
Atomic Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, mbrg said: Eye of the beholder. Most GMs aren't message board types who let the idea of a player being soft obsess in the minds for a year. They'll look at his stats, see a guy who could get them a few timely goals and plug in on any of the top 3 lines. He has some value to a team that thinks they're contenders and want to make sure they have depth. Pavelec only has value if someone loses one of their goalies to injury. How much would you give up just to have a middling goalie on the bench for the playoffs? Probably not a lot, and with the expansion draft looming their might be a few more goalies available than usual. An abundance of goalies brings Pavs value down even further. With the amount of decent forwards who will potentially be available I just don't see anyone knocking down the door for Stafford. Maybe a fourth round pick... but I'd be surprised. I think fifth-round is just about the best we can hope for.
JCon Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, mbrg said: Eye of the beholder. Most GMs aren't message board types who let the idea of a player being soft obsess in the minds for a year. They'll look at his stats, see a guy who could get them a few timely goals and plug in on any of the top 3 lines. He has some value to a team that thinks they're contenders and want to make sure they have depth. GMs rely on scouts much more than that. They'll certainly see a guy who has put up numbers but will rely more on the current status of his play and what they need to pay him (re: salary cap).
sweep the leg Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 I think Stafford would get us a 4th or 5th rounder. Maybe even a 3rd given the way some trades are structured to improve the pick based on the playoff performance of the team. That might be pushing it though.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 6, 2017 Report Posted February 6, 2017 It wouldnt surprise me if Chevy works some magic with Stafford and gets a decent pick. Teams see him as a 20+ goal scorer and a veteran. If they want to win now, a 2nd or 3rd isnt too much to pay. But knowing the Jets they will still think we have a shot and keep him.
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