The Unknown Poster Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 Didn't Price learn to be a starter while struggling on a bad team in his rookie year? Helle will be fine.
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 28 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Didn't Price learn to be a starter while struggling on a bad team in his rookie year? Helle will be fine. Price hit his stride 7 years into his career... not long after Montreal decided to stick with him instead of Halak...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/01/02/pavelec-not-pondering-promotion
The Unknown Poster Posted January 3, 2017 Report Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/01/02/pavelec-not-pondering-promotion He's probably pondering July 1st. He's gonzo.
Ducky Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Posted January 4, 2017 You have got to admit though he has taken the demotion like a real professional. JCon 1
Ducky Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Posted January 9, 2017 I read something and I will streamline for the sake of brevity. He had goaltending as the number one reason for the poor play this year closely followed by injuries and then special teams... Helle has a sv% of under the league average and well below the league average for starting goalies. What was more telling to him was the amount of quality starts. Helle is 36th in quality starts (pretty good backup) and that number is under 50%. He goes on to talk about the injuries the Jets have suffered with this year and I quote "the jets lost more man games and total cap hit of those players than just about any other team in the league. With a healthy roster the team has played more consistently and had better results on both the PK and PP since returning to near full health. Coincidence? I doubt it." He goes on to talk about the coaching... "As for the coaching. Keep in mind this team lost a 1C and was missing a top pairing defenseman for the first 25 games or so and was so banged up Blake mother!#*+#&$ Wheeler was playing center. I'm still more than happy to see what PoMo can do with this roster for the remainder of this season and the first half of next. And for everyone loosing their s#@! about Stafford moving up the lineup in the 3rd.... He was probably the best 4th liner that game and he had a goal earlier. If you promote one of Petan or Copp up the lineup when Drew was having a good game what kind of message does that send? Results and effort don't matter?" He also says he cannot understand that some fans want Maurice fired based on "some underlying assumption that PoMo has this incomprehensible love for veteran players. The coach that sent Pav to the Minors. That's letting Stuart rot in the pressbox. That played every single call up from the moose ahead of Thorburn in the lineup and quickly sent him back to box as soon as possible. That banished Stafford to the 4th line nearly immediately. Was part of the reason Burmi is gone. The guy that's giving an 18 year old first line minutes on a line with a 20 year old and a 23 year old....." I couldn't agree more but he says it better than I do... Atomic 1
Floyd Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ducky said: He goes on to talk about the coaching... "As for the coaching. Keep in mind this team lost a 1C and was missing a top pairing defenseman for the first 25 games or so and was so banged up Blake mother!#*+#&$ Wheeler was playing center. I'm still more than happy to see what PoMo can do with this roster for the remainder of this season and the first half of next. And for everyone loosing their s#@! about Stafford moving up the lineup in the 3rd.... He was probably the best 4th liner that game and he had a goal earlier. If you promote one of Petan or Copp up the lineup when Drew was having a good game what kind of message does that send? Results and effort don't matter?" He also says he cannot understand that some fans want Maurice fired based on "some underlying assumption that PoMo has this incomprehensible love for veteran players. The coach that sent Pav to the Minors. That's letting Stuart rot in the pressbox. That played every single call up from the moose ahead of Thorburn in the lineup and quickly sent him back to box as soon as possible. That banished Stafford to the 4th line nearly immediately. Was part of the reason Burmi is gone. The guy that's giving an 18 year old first line minutes on a line with a 20 year old and a 23 year old....." I couldn't agree more but he says it better than I do... That was a coaching decision... Perrault was moved to the wing instead of playing 2C while Scheif was hurt. Armia had a goal too, why not move him up? What kind of message does it send when you consistently drive play and never get a shot in the top six... Goalie 1
Goalie Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Floyd said: That was a coaching decision... Perrault was moved to the wing instead of playing 2C while Scheif was hurt. Armia had a goal too, why not move him up? What kind of message does it send when you consistently drive play and never get a shot in the top six... Vets Rule! !!!! Floyd 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 If the Jets were looking for veteran goaltending help, Jonas Gustavsson has been waived by the Oilers. He's a former Jet (sort of).
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: If the Jets were looking for veteran goaltending help, Jonas Gustavsson has been waived by the Oilers. He's a former Jet (sort of). Jets dont like goaltenders over 28+ age Edited January 9, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg
Goalie Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 He's actually way worse than any goalie we have in our system, Gustafsson was just awful, I'd imagine he's done in the NHL. The Unknown Poster 1
Goalie Posted January 9, 2017 Report Posted January 9, 2017 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Jets dont like goaltenders over 28+ age goaltenders Or ones that are worse than Michael Hutchinson. Ducky 1
Floyd Posted January 10, 2017 Report Posted January 10, 2017 Hey are we still calling up Comrie now that Helle's save percentage is .913 and he has 3 shutouts?
The Unknown Poster Posted January 10, 2017 Report Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Floyd said: Hey are we still calling up Comrie now that Helle's save percentage is .913 and he has 3 shutouts? Yes. Waiving Hutch, calling up Comrie and letting Vegas take Helle. Atomic, Floyd and Brandon 3
Ducky Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Posted January 10, 2017 we have room on the roster...could still call Comrie up and not send Hutch down.....5-3-0 since healthy, we still firing Maurice?
The Unknown Poster Posted January 10, 2017 Report Posted January 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ducky said: we have room on the roster...could still call Comrie up and not send Hutch down.....5-3-0 since healthy, we still firing Maurice? No one speculated Maurice would be fired mid-season. Floyd 1
Floyd Posted January 10, 2017 Report Posted January 10, 2017 How about let's see if he can win three in a row by season's end... Brandon 1
Ducky Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Posted January 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Floyd said: How about let's see if he can win three in a row by season's end... I'd be happy winning two and dropping one...
Floyd Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Ducky said: I'd be happy winning two and dropping one... #Winnipegstrong
Ducky Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Posted January 11, 2017 You do realize that if we win two and drop one we make the playoffs and if you win 2 and lose 1 in the playoffs, you will win the cup?
Floyd Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ducky said: You do realize that if we win two and drop one we make the playoffs and if you win 2 and lose 1 in the playoffs, you will win the cup? So your plan is for the Jets to win two games and lose one then repeat for the next 40 games... man, you're right we are going to win the cup!!! Wait, how come we're barely .500 if all it takes is winning two games and then losing only one. Its so easy. Seems like you're blaming this on Maurice which I think is premature. Edited January 11, 2017 by Floyd
Atomic Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 11:26 PM, Floyd said: That was a coaching decision... Perrault was moved to the wing instead of playing 2C while Scheif was hurt. Armia had a goal too, why not move him up? What kind of message does it send when you consistently drive play and never get a shot in the top six... Why break up the Armia line when they have been so effective? And you have a former 20 and 30 goal scorer making 4 mil on the fourth line? He made the obvious decision that any rational person would, and moved up Stafford.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Armia did get power play time so its not like he wasnt rewarded with a push up the line up. As poor as Stafford has been, I can see the appeal of him in the top six. Scoring is his forte. And by accounts here, he played decent enough. he wont keep the spot when Laine is back so what does it matter. Atomic 1
Goalie Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 I think the real reason stafford is playing in the top 6 is to get him going so he can be traded at or near the deadline. He played ok the other game. They are probably show casing him a bit here. Brandon 1
HardCoreBlue Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Armia did get power play time so its not like he wasnt rewarded with a push up the line up. As poor as Stafford has been, I can see the appeal of him in the top six. Scoring is his forte. And by accounts here, he played decent enough. he wont keep the spot when Laine is back so what does it matter. Yup it's rational to plug in a previous 20-30 goal scorer, it's also rational to ensure you're matching their playing minutes to their contributions. I heard the commentator mention he noticed more jump in Staffords play against the Flames. The only thing I would ask from Drew Stafford is ensure his level of intensity, effort not change regardless of minutes and line combo he's on.
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