raptors / nba.

wbbfan · October 24, 2016

Not sure how much of a following the nba/raptors have around here. Thought id throw out a thread for it though.

Just saw on the score that jared sullinger the raps off season signe is out 2-3 monthes with recovery from the foot surgery he just under went.

Really sucks, he would have fit with the raptors soo well. And the east is looking much improved this year. Looks like patpat will get the starts for the time being. Rookie pascal siakam seemed to get the most minutes of the young bigs. He has a similar package to biyombo with out as much length. Poeltl could should see a bump in minutes from this too.

Taynted_Fayth · July 2, 2017

I dunno how this matches up to others around the NBA but 33.33m a year seems like a redonkulous amount for not even your #1 player (DeRozan)

**edit just to compare I found this list from 2016-2017

1. LeBron James - $30.96m

T-2. DeMar DeRozan - $26.54m

T-2. Mike Conley - $26.54m

T2. Kevin Durant - $26.54m

T-2. James Harden - $26.54m

T-2 Al Horford - $26.54m

T-2 Russel Westbrook - $26.54m

8. Dirk Nowitzki - $25m

9. Carmelo Anthony - $24.55m

10. Damian Lillard - $24.3M

Steph Curry wasn't even in the top 25 last year, but is set to make $34m this year I don't think lowry should be anywhere close to these guys

Edited July 2, 2017 by Taynted_Fayth

bustamente · July 2, 2017

Raptors need to keep up with the league, but as long as they are super teams they have no chance to win the championship.

FrostyWinnipeg · July 2, 2017

But after taxes would he still be top 10 in salaries?

Edited July 2, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg

wbbfan · July 3, 2017

1 hour ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I dunno how this matches up to others around the NBA but 33.33m a year seems like a redonkulous amount for not even your #1 player (DeRozan)

**edit just to compare I found this list from 2016-2017

1. LeBron James - $30.96m

T-2. DeMar DeRozan - $26.54m

T-2. Mike Conley - $26.54m

T2. Kevin Durant - $26.54m

T-2. James Harden - $26.54m

T-2 Al Horford - $26.54m

T-2 Russel Westbrook - $26.54m

8. Dirk Nowitzki - $25m

9. Carmelo Anthony - $24.55m

10. Damian Lillard - $24.3M

Steph Curry wasn't even in the top 25 last year, but is set to make $34m this year I don't think lowry should be anywhere close to these guys

lowry is there no1. DD has evolved into a stellar player no doubt. But lowrys on the ball D, offensive set up and offensive diversity is what makes the team go. The raps going a year with out DD can make the play offs the raps with out lowry dont.

Its a lot of money, but they had to do it. I dont see them being able to add to the core with out a heavy re tooling. But if u re tool lowry is who you build around.

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

But after taxes would he still be top 10 in salaries?

Didnt they have a deal in place to fix that a couple years back?

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Raptors need to keep up with the league, but as long as they are super teams they have no chance to win the championship.

pretty much. Im not a fan the direction the league has taken but you cant stop it.

Taynted_Fayth · July 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

lowry is there no1. DD has evolved into a stellar player no doubt. But lowrys on the ball D, offensive set up and offensive diversity is what makes the team go. The raps going a year with out DD can make the play offs the raps with out lowry dont.

Its a lot of money, but they had to do it. I dont see them being able to add to the core with out a heavy re tooling. But if u re tool lowry is who you build around.

I dunno Lowry was hurt, or missed quite a bit of games, and while not huge difference, DeRozan still had better averages with 14 more games played. I'm not saying Lowry is an awful players, but honestly he can't carry a team on his shoulders regularly. And while he was hurt I thought Cory Joseph played relatively well in his stead. Not as flashy with the numbers but held his own.

I agree tho the raptors needs to make a play. Lowry and DeRozan have a pretty good 1-2 punch combo going for them and would suck to ruin that. Just not sure I'd have paid that much. Somewhere on the team, it will suffer due to this over payment. And if DeRozan was only making 26.5m last year, he will likely demand more in the future than Lowry got now

wbbfan · July 3, 2017

1 minute ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

I dunno Lowry was hurt, or missed quite a bit of games, and while not huge difference, DeRozan still had better averages with 14 more games played. I'm not saying Lowry is an awful players, but honestly he can't carry a team on his shoulders regularly. And while he was hurt I thought Cory Joseph played relatively well in his stead. Not as flashy with the numbers but held his own.

I agree tho the raptors needs to make a play. Lowry and DeRozan have a pretty good 1-2 punch combo going for them and would suck to ruin that. Just not sure I'd have paid that much. Somewhere on the team, it will suffer due to this over payment. And if DeRozan was only making 26.5m last year, he will likely demand more in the future than Lowry got now

He did miss a chunk and the raps never really got back to their rhythm.

Jonas is where i suspect it will come from. I imagine they move him for some one that fits with lowry n dd better. Too bad id love to see lowy and jonas work the offense inside out like the raps used to.

Taynted_Fayth · July 3, 2017

Just now, wbbfan said:

He did miss a chunk and the raps never really got back to their rhythm.

Jonas is where i suspect it will come from. I imagine they move him for some one that fits with lowry n dd better. Too bad id love to see lowy and jonas work the offense inside out like the raps used to.

I think the raptors resigned Ibaka recently too, I think Carol might be done in toronto at some point

bustamente · July 3, 2017

6 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He did miss a chunk and the raps never really got back to their rhythm.

Jonas is where i suspect it will come from. I imagine they move him for some one that fits with lowry n dd better. Too bad id love to see lowy and jonas work the offense inside out like the raps used to.

Also think that JV will be moved

wbbfan · July 3, 2017

Just now, Taynted_Fayth said:

I think the raptors resigned Ibaka recently too, I think Carol might be done in toronto at some point

they agreed to terms, didnt hear if it was made official yet. 3 years 65m. They probably look to move ibaka full time to C, and bring in a stretch 4 to hit 3s and spread the floor for DD/lowry. Id like to see l-nog get the back up minutes.

Carrols days have to be numbered.

Goalie · July 3, 2017

33 million seems like lots for a guy who doesnt show up to play when it matters most.

Raps have a 3 year window now with lowry DD and Ibaka.

wbbfan · July 3, 2017

42 minutes ago, Goalie said:

33 million seems like lots for a guy who doesnt show up to play when it matters most.

Raps have a 3 year window now with lowry DD and Ibaka.

You could say that of DD and lowry as well. Raps have been regular season warriors and play off fluffers.

A stretch 4 and a GOOD 3 and D sf would propel this team far. Though a better 6th man scorer would be great.

Goalie · July 7, 2017

I prefer the T Wolves tho so hope the Raps fail.

FrostyWinnipeg · July 7, 2017

Rogers/Bell rates gonna go up to pay that contract?

wbbfan · July 9, 2017

Busy off season so far for the raps. carroll to the nets in a dump. Expensive but worth it. Cory joseph is gone to indiana for cj miles as well.

Its good ground work for the rest of the off season. I dont expect the raps to get a superstar, but a JV deal and a good stretch 4 would go a long long ways. A veteran presence like sir charles on the bench to lead by example would be fantastic too. Some one who knows how to win and can mentor DD and lowry into winners.

wbbfan · October 22, 2017

Another year and the raptors are off to a good start. If you like basketball, give a game a watch. Rookie OG anunoby is some thing else. Hes on limited action and not 100% from his off season recovery but man he is gonna be some thing special.