sweep the leg Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, 17to85 said: what you don't think Mack brought in a pile of american talent for this team? He did that aspect of the job better than Walters has. The 2013 Blue Bombers were really brimming with talent...
Blueandgold Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: what you don't think Mack brought in a pile of american talent for this team? He did that aspect of the job better than Walters has. I would've agreed with this prior to this year, but we got some quality players this year. It would still be nice if Walters could recruit a half decent receiver though.
Noeller Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 RT .@Dave_CHED #Eskimos release 3 players: DE Jason Vega, QB Thomas DeMarco, and DL Mathieu Boulay who retired in training camp. #CFL
17to85 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, sweep the leg said: The 2013 Blue Bombers were really brimming with talent... American talent, yeah they had a lot of that. Canadians and quarterbacks though not so much. Walters wishes he could bring in Americans like Joe Mack did.
sweep the leg Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 23 minutes ago, 17to85 said: American talent, yeah they had a lot of that. We'll have agree to disagree on this one. With very few exceptions, the talent on that team was terrible. I invite you to google that roster to refresh your memory.
sweep the leg Posted December 13, 2016 Report Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Blueandgold said: I would've agreed with this prior to this year, but we got some quality players this year. It would still be nice if Walters could recruit a half decent receiver though. It's weird that receivers have been so hard for us to find, when they're supposed to be the easiest to find, yet we can't seem to miss on the dbs we bring in. rebusrankin 1
Noeller Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 gary lawless ✔ @garylawless can now confirm @MTLAlouettes will announce Kavis Reed as new GM and Jacques Chapdelaine as HC at presser tomorrow #cfl @cfl
Captain Blue Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 I feel like football people love Kavis Reed despite not having much success. This arranged marriage seems doomed to fail, but both have been around long enough that maybe they figure it out.
Dr. Blue Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 I thought that I read somewhere that Reed was recommended for the GM position by Chapdelaine. I'm glad that's not us!
Noeller Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr. Blue said: I thought that I read somewhere that Reed was recommended for the GM position by Chapdelaine. I'm glad that's not us! I definitely read that as well. This whole thing just reeks of something the Bombers would have done in the past because it's the cheap and easy way.
Mark H. Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 5 hours ago, 17to85 said: American talent, yeah they had a lot of that. Canadians and quarterbacks though not so much. Walters wishes he could bring in Americans like Joe Mack did. Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick.
LeBird Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, sweep the leg said: It's weird that receivers have been so hard for us to find, when they're supposed to be the easiest to find, yet we can't seem to miss on the dbs we bring in. The HC might have something to do with that.
M.O.A.B. Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick. Kelly Butler ? Maybe not better but at least he belongs to that group. Andre Douglas is also good prior to his injury. BTW, Hardrick was originally from BC. Edited December 14, 2016 by M.O.A.B.
Goalie Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 1 minute ago, M.O.A.B. said: Kelly Butler ? Maybe not better but at least he belongs to that group. Didn't Kelly bring him to WPG via Edmonton
M.O.A.B. Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Goalie said: Didn't Kelly bring him to WPG via Edmonton He signed with the club 2010 I think you're referring to OL Thaddeus Coleman. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/blogs/bomber_insiders/Another-trade-with-Edmonton-48036967.html Edited December 14, 2016 by M.O.A.B.
WinnipegGordo Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: BTW, Hardrick was originally from BC. Sure, and he also played for the Riders. But, the Bomber staff recognized Hardrick's potential and didn't dismiss him as another failed talent. They got him to lose 20 pounds so that he'd be more mobile and look what happened. To me that's a strike against the Lions and Riders if anything.
Bigblue204 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 9 hours ago, Mark H. said: Name an American OL who was better than Bond, Foketi, or Hardrick. Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league.
sweep the leg Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league. Wllis, Hunt, & Hefney all came before Mack. Goalie, Wanna-B-Fanboy, Floyd and 1 other 4
GCn20 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 I would hire Mack and Moll in a heartbeat to recruit for us. Mack and Moll knew how to recruit at a few positions that's for sure.
17to85 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said: Name a receiver better than Matthews? Or a DE better than Willis/Hunt. Or a HB better than Hefney. OR DT better than Turner. Etc etc. Mack had his bright spots. This isn't an attempt to rewrite history. Those teams were what they were. But he found plenty of American talent, and in their prime most were the best or damn near the best in the league. You can also throw names like Sears and Washington and Wild in there too. I get that people want to pretend that Joe Mack was the worst person in the world and he did make mistakes, but when it came to recruiting players from the states he was damned good, but he relied on that entirely and didn't make good coaching choices so the whole thing didn't work. Nash00, Bigblue204 and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3
Noeller Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 18 minutes ago, 17to85 said: You can also throw names like Sears and Washington and Wild in there too. I get that people want to pretend that Joe Mack was the worst person in the world and he did make mistakes, but when it came to recruiting players from the states he was damned good, but he relied on that entirely and didn't make good coaching choices so the whole thing didn't work. some kind of booger man.... Nash00 1
WinnipegGordo Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 Yeah, there was the myth that Mack lived in the States and therefore was never around the team. Fact was that during the season he spent most of his time in Winnipeg.
Mike Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 I'd bring back Mack as a scout under the condition that he spend no time in Winnipeg. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Tracker and Floyd 3
Floyd Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mike said: I'd bring back Mack as a scout under the condition that he spend no time in Winnipeg. Pretty sure that was one of his contract demands before he signed on as GM... CodyT 1
Floyd Posted December 14, 2016 Report Posted December 14, 2016 2 hours ago, sweep the leg said: Wllis, Hunt, & Hefney all came before Mack. Tragic that John Murphy was part of the post-Kelly purge... Fred C Dobbs 1
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