JCon Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Zontar said: An aging broken down QB gets signed for a low price. Alert world media. Durant signed last week. We're talking about the ageless Glenn now!
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Are there even any quality OL in FA the riders could over spend on that could fix their tattered line? If they in fact plan to start any of their QBs currently on roster I'd simply stack the box and bring the house all day long. Doesnt matter who is throwing and who is catching, 1 steamboat won't get you anywhere
Zontar Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, JCon said: Durant signed last week. We're talking about the ageless Glenn now! Many Rider fans are trying to equate Glenn and Durant in terms of effectiveness. Knowledgeable fans and fans who don't have their heads up Chris Jones's ass know this notion is laughable.
Fatty Liver Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said: Are there even any quality OL in FA the riders could over spend on that could fix their tattered line? If they in fact plan to start any of their QBs currently on roster I'd simply stack the box and bring the house all day long. Doesnt matter who is throwing and who is catching, 1 steamboat won't get you anywhere Derek Dennis from the Stamps is available if he makes it to free agency. He won the Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman award in 2016 so he is well worth pursuing. Brandon 1
JuranBoldenRules Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 That contract tells you Glenn is the starter. No reason to hand him a large bonus and base salary to mentor. Atomic 1
Zontar Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: That contract tells you Glenn is the starter. No reason to hand him a large bonus and base salary to mentor. And Jones's helper monkeys amongst the Rider fan base are selling this move as progress. It's truly unbelievable. Fatty Liver 1
JCon Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, Zontar said: Many Rider fans are trying to equate Glenn and Durant in terms of effectiveness. Knowledgeable fans and fans who don't have their heads up Chris Jones's ass know this notion is laughable. Except that Durant is damaged. Maybe, behind a good line, he can resurrect his career. Wait and see. Instead, they get Glenn, who, for the price, is serviceable. And no one complains when they insert their 'next' QB in part way through the year. Less upfront money and an easy out. If you're determined NOT to go forward with Durant, Glenn is a reasonable Band-Aid solution (at a low cost). You're not going to pay Glenn's eventual replacement very much anyhow. Ripper 1
peggars Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 now that they have to count their 50 man PR salaries to the cap since they got busted last year, it helps to find savings in your starting QB
Kluchk Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Carter Roosevelt Collins Holley Bagg/Demski That is a good set of receivers. I hope they re-sign Artemi Edwards, if not he would be a good fit for the Bombers.
JCon Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Kluchk said: Carter Roosevelt Collins Holley Bagg/Demski That group can probably make any QB look good. August 15 - Over/Under on Carter's first fist fight?
Atomic Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, Kluchk said: Carter Roosevelt Collins Holley Bagg/Demski That is a good set of receivers. I hope they re-sign Artemi Edwards, if not he would be a good fit for the Bombers. Pretty average set of receivers really. To go along with the painfully average QB. Maybe someday you guys will sign an average running back to round out the offence.
Zontar Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, JCon said: Except that Durant is damaged. Maybe, behind a good line, he can resurrect his career. Wait and see. Instead, they get Glenn, who, for the price, is serviceable. And no one complains when they insert their 'next' QB in part way through the year. Less upfront money and an easy out. If you're determined NOT to go forward with Durant, Glenn is a reasonable Band-Aid solution (at a low cost). You're not going to pay Glenn's eventual replacement very much anyhow. Durant is nowhere close to the level Glenn is now. Durant was scapegoated for a 5 win season and Jones and his fans are using a bad season as a justification despite injuries being the number one excuse prior to the contract standoff. Glenn stopped being a viable starting QB two years ago. But when one has invested so much mental energy in defending Jones that reality has to be ignored.
M.O.A.B. Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Atomic said: Pretty average set of receivers really. To go along with the painfully average QB. Maybe someday you guys will sign an average running back to round out the offence. Im actually expecting them to run their money on Shakir Bell. And Im expecting Bell to make it to free agency.
Kluchk Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Atomic said: Pretty average set of receivers really. To go along with the painfully average QB. Maybe someday you guys will sign an average running back to round out the offence. Average at best? Seriously? You think the Bombers set of 5 is better?
M.O.A.B. Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, Kluchk said: Carter Roosevelt Collins Holley Bagg/Demski That is a good set of receivers. I hope they re-sign Artemi Edwards, if not he would be a good fit for the Bombers. I believe Armanti Edwards was origially with the Bombers neg list but I could be wrong though. I like him.
GCn20 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kluchk said: Average at best? Seriously? You think the Bombers set of 5 is better? Your top end is very good (Carter/Roosevelt) after that it is pretty average. You guys grossly over rate Holley/Collins/Bagg. I definitely think that as a whole our receiving corps is better. You guys have a couple better players but we have the definitive edge overall. Edited January 26, 2017 by gcn11 Atomic 1
JCon Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Zontar said: Glenn stopped being a viable starting QB two years ago. But when one has invested so much mental energy in defending Jones that reality has to be ignored. He threw for over 2500 yds with Montreal in 9 games. And Montreal was a gong-show. Tracker 1
HardCoreBlue Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 54 minutes ago, Kluchk said: Carter Roosevelt Collins Holley Bagg/Demski That is a good set of receivers. I hope they re-sign Artemi Edwards, if not he would be a good fit for the Bombers. I don't think the talent is the primary issue here, it's more when the going gets tough and based on Jones and Carter's demonstrated behaviour over time, how will that play out between them and with other Sask players? From a HardCore Blue Bomber fan's point of view, I hope it plays out where I'll feel the need to get me some popcorn. JCon 1
Kluchk Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, gcn11 said: Your top end is very good (Carter/Roosevelt) after that it is pretty average. You guys grossly over rate Holley/Collins/Bagg. I definitely think that as a whole our receiving corps is better. You guys have a couple better players but we have the definitive edge overall. Well I guess I disagree. Bagg sure, he's meh, however, I think you underestimate Holley and Collins. They are great receivers who both had decent 1st years with the Riders.
bearpants Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: Im actually expecting them to run their money on Shakir Bell. And Im expecting Bell to make it to free agency. Hard to imagine he signs in Edm to back up John White... when he could potentially start in Sask, Hamilton or Toronto...
Atomic Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kluchk said: Well I guess I disagree. Bagg sure, he's meh, however, I think you underestimate Holley and Collins. They are great receivers who both had decent 1st years with the Riders. Exactly. 2 stars with 3 guys who are average. Pretty much just like every other team. That's why it's an average receiving corps, that's what average means. MOBomberFan 1
Atomic Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, bearpants said: Hard to imagine he signs in Edm to back up John White... when he could potentially start in Sask, Hamilton or Toronto... Huge fan of Shakir Bell. I hope he doesn't end up in Saskatchewan. MOBomberFan and Doublezero 2
Jpan85 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 To be fair it all went south with Carter and Montreal after Glenn was pulled as the starter. Mark F and Tracker 2
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 both holley and collins put up pretty average numbers considering who they had throwing them the ball, i expect them to be alot lower #s with a worse QB and then bulk of the throws going to Carter/Roosevelt, assuming Roosevelt is still with the team, and/or healthy and carter isnt suspended
Brandon Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Glenn thrives on an offense which can give him protection.... Dee Urban Hermit 1
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