US Politics

[The Unknown Poster]

3 minutes ago, Atomic said:

According to polls that turned out to be wildly inaccurate.

That's a pretty big leap and I can't see many voters making it.   It was never about Trump.  It was always about "anti-establishment", "anti-PC", and "anti-Democrat".  Trump himself is vile in pretty much every way.  I don't think the perception of his character could possibly sink any lower.  But it didn't matter.  I believe more people voted against Hilary than for Trump.

It doesn't matter now and it's impossible to know for sure.  But this seems like wishful thinking more than anything.  Trump has survived scandal after scandal.  What's one more?

What turned out to be inaccurate?  His numbers did drop.  Even his own campaign was resigned to defeat.  But Hilary's numbers were hit by the FBI thing after that.  Had the FBI thing not happened, he probably doesnt win.  But as you're 100% correct that polling was way off, who knows.

I do think that there are Trump supporters who would drop off the bandwagon for various offences.  How many is the question.

[do or die]

...so we can add incest, to the list?

[Atomic]

2 minutes ago, do or die said:

...so we can add incest, to the list?

That was on the list a long time ago.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html

[Mark F]

found out what may have happened to trump the cheeseburger eater

 

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The study, published in the journal Nature Neuroscience, found that mice fed a high salt diet showed signs of declining mental performance and cognitive impairment. The reason was that their brains had been starved of blood.

 

[basslicker]

On ‎2018‎-‎01‎-‎16 at 3:22 PM, Atomic said:

An actual doctor says he's healthy and fit for the presidency?  Whatever, that's just one man's opinion.  I'll take the thousands of internet diagnoses any day!  Because as we all know, truth is determined by the amount of people who believe something.

b..b..b..b..b..b.. but a Dr. on CNN who never performed a physical exam or any sort of testing says he has heart disease!

[basslicker]

On ‎2018‎-‎01‎-‎12 at 4:09 PM, Mark F said:

ignorant? Don't think so.

I've been to Mexico, I drove a car from Mexico city to Acapulco;  I saw many citizens without refrigeration, without any electricity, meat hanging out in the open, covered with flies, that was their food. Dead animals lying rotting on roadsides, cause nobody cared enough to do anything about it.

people living in little shanties with dirt floors. washing their clothes in a stream.  I saw these things.This is, for instance,  in places just over the hill from the expensive resorts for Canadians and Americans. Where no ordinary Mexican could ever hope to stay.

last week something like ten people's head's chopped off and stuck up in public near Los Cabos. 26 thousand murders last year in Mexico.

And Mexico, is a destination for work, for people from Central America, cause they are actually worse off in parts of Central America.

There mass murders of Indians, whole villages slaughtered, by government forces, (supported by the USA) not that long ago. No justice for them.

It's a daily struggle for millions, just to get enough to eat. We, in North America, could help to change this, but just look on those places as sources of cheap goods cheap labour, and winter vacations.

I could go on and on, but I won't bother.

So no, it's not ignorant to say that.  

 

 

 

Trump, if he said it at all, phrased himself VERY poorly, but there's nothing racist about saying some countries suck. Some do.  Actually, many do, and Canada and America are among, if not, the best in the world.    The naysayers should show me people who would honestly say they'd prefer to live in Haiti or one of the many African nations that have a plethora of serious problems than to live in the U.S.   The West has become brain dead...............

The truth hurts and doesn't care for feelings. 

 

“In a room where
people unanimously maintain
a conspiracy of silence,
one word of truth
sounds like a pistol shot.”
― Czesław Miłosz

[The Unknown Poster]

Yikes

 

[The Unknown Poster]

1 hour ago, basslicker said:

Trump, if he said it at all, phrased himself VERY poorly, but there's nothing racist about saying some countries suck. Some do.  Actually, many do, and Canada and America are among, if not, the best in the world.    The naysayers should show me people who would honestly say they'd prefer to live in Haiti or one of the many African nations that have a plethora of serious problems than to live in the U.S.   The West has become brain dead...............

The truth hurts and doesn't care for feelings. 

 

“In a room where
people unanimously maintain
a conspiracy of silence,
one word of truth
sounds like a pistol shot.”
― Czesław Miłosz

I think you missed the point. 

Why are we bringing in people from shithole Africa and shithole Haiti when we can have nice white people from Norway. That’s the poont  

[FrostyWinnipeg]

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

6 hours ago, basslicker said:

b..b..b..b..b..b.. but a Dr. on CNN who never performed a physical exam or any sort of testing says he has heart disease!

W..w...w...w...w... Why does a doctor order tests? 

W..w...w...w...w...What does he do with the results?

I....i....i....i.... If those test results are available to another doctor for a second opinion- can he use them to form an informed diagnosis? 

S....s....s.....s... seriously, they provide the results to the public so they can scrutinize and make their own conclusions. 

 

6 hours ago, basslicker said:

Trump, if he said it at all, phrased himself VERY poorly, but there's nothing racist about saying some countries suck. Some do.  Actually, many do, and Canada and America are among, if not, the best in the world.    The naysayers should show me people who would honestly say they'd prefer to live in Haiti or one of the many African nations that have a plethora of serious problems than to live in the U.S.   The West has become brain dead...............

The truth hurts and doesn't care for feelings. 

 

“In a room where
people unanimously maintain
a conspiracy of silence,
one word of truth
sounds like a pistol shot.”
― Czesław Miłosz

Context and history, He's ******* racist. 

Not Nazi racist, more like ignorant blowhard grandpa racist. 

Also- IBG racists usually don't know they are racist. 

Not sure why you are defending a racist basslicker. 

Edited January 18, 2018 by wanna-b-fanboy

[kelownabomberfan]

9 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

 

Not sure why you are defending a racist basslicker. 

nice virtue-signalling there!  Anyway, is Trump a racist?  Don Lemon says yes, Martin Luther King's nephew says no, and hilarity ensues...

 

[The Unknown Poster]

@wanna-b-fanboy - I agree.  The idea that other doctors cant interpret the test results is silly.  This isnt like the Admiral said "Trump reported his knee hurt" and then everyone is diagnosing it.  These are test results.  When people go for physicals, their doctors often send them for blood tests (or other tests).  Your doctor doesnt conduct those test.  He just reads the results and interprets them.

The really interesting exchange happened between the Admiral and the CNN doctor.  CNN asked if Trump had heart disease and the Admiral said no and then gave the technical diagnoses for heart disease.  The CNN doctor also repeatedly downplayed this as not a big deal based on age etc.  But the Admiral clearly downplayed if not out and out lied.  There is no way Trump is 239lbs.  Its just not believable.  And the fact his height is taller now than previously?  Come on.  They designed the results to avoid saying he was Obese.

The most absurd part is the Admiral saying Trump was overweight, had a lousy diet, never exercised, had heart disease and tests that are predictive for a likely heart attack within 5 years but that Trump was in excellent heath, could live to be 200 and had the greatest genes in the history of genes.  it was almost as if this doctor was being so absurd to make a point that the whole exercise was a staged event.

Trump could have declined to disclose any info.  Ultimately, the end result is Trump is fat and has an unhealthy diet and life style.  Has heart disease and is at risk for a heart attack.  Thats the reality of the results.  Does it really matter?  Well, it matters in the sense that it always matters during elections about the next guy up.  But who cares.  it was a farce anyway.

@kelownabomberfan You saying Trump is not a racist carries no more water than anyone saying he is.  less in fact because he KEEPS SAYING RACIST THINGS. lol 

So, is Trump a racist in his heart?  Who knows.  I agree with the person who said he's more of an ignorant old bastard racist then a "kill em all" racist.  The problem is, 1) that's still really bad and distasteful 2) he's surrounded by people that DO have a stronger white pride mentality and use Trump's ignorance and "white preference" to push for white nationalistic policies.

Being right wing is great.  Defending a racist isnt a compulsory part of being right wing.  Based on what Trump says, he's racist.  When we start making excuses such as "his words are racist but he isnt", we're going down a rabbit hole.  He could be a full fledged white supremacist.  or an ignorant old fool.  Either way, racist.

In the CNN clip, King's nephew essentially said "you might do and say racist things but it doesnt mean you're a racist".  So...talk about parsing words.

And regardless of whether we're right ring or left wing, conservative or liberal...can't we all agree that Trump's racial views are distasteful?

The bigger news this week is that Trump paid hush money to a porn star to bury an embarrassing story.  In the age of #MeToo its hard to believe the accusations against Trump havent gained more ground.

Edited January 18, 2018 by The Unknown Poster

[sweep the leg]

The guy talking over that youtube video is a mess. Also, MLK's nephew's pov is a little suspect, basically saying that you're not a racist if you're too stupid to know you're a racist. "You may do and say racist things, but in your heart not be a racist." C'mon man.

Looked up Mark Dice. He believes Katy Perry is satanic and Super Bowl halftime shows are elaborate Illuminati rituals...

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

nice virtue-signalling there!  Anyway, is Trump a racist?  Don Lemon says yes, Martin Luther King's nephew says no, and hilarity ensues...

 

Holy Jeebus... I reckon it's been a year since we got a warning from Rich for harassing each other.- so let's have at it:

First off... "virtue-signalling"?  There is no hyphen, it's "virtue signaling".  

Secondly.... circa 2015 called and wants you to stop using that term incorrectly.  

How is  calling out the defense of a racist,  "virtue signalling"?  

If you are going to defend a racist, you should probably not use a video from the love child of  a poor-man's Alex Jones  and Ann Coulter to make your point. 

 

 

 

[Mark F]

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Less than a week after President Donald Trump provoked international outrage by reportedly referring to Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as" shithole" countries, the Department of Homeland Security is under fire for pushing the president's "racist anti-Haitian immigrant agenda" by specifically barring Haitians from applying for certain temporary work visas.

See?

Proves Trump was right about Haiti   !!!

It's actually shocking that the entire apparatus of the US government is on bended knee to  (too stupid to be dog catcher) Trump.

That's what's frightening. How easy it is for that to happen.

All anyone that objects can do, is resign. Most people need their job.

 

Edited January 18, 2018 by Mark F

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[The Unknown Poster]

34 minutes ago, Mark F said:

See?

Proves Trump was right about Haiti   !!!

It's actually shocking that the entire apparatus of the US government is on bended knee to  (too stupid to be dog catcher) Trump.

That's what's frightening. How easy it is for that to happen.

All anyone that objects can do, is resign. Most people need their job.

 

And a lot of State department employees have quit and they've had trouble replacing them.  Applications are way down as well according to a story I read (cant recall where).

[kelownabomberfan]

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

 I reckon it's been a year since we got a warning from Rich for harassing each other.- so let's have at it:

No, let's not.  You've proven far beyond a shadow of a doubt that you aren't worth it.

I just waded into this echo chamber to post the video of Don the Asshat Lemon being made to look like an idiot, especially after he thought he was going to have a "slam dunk" on selling his "Trump is a racist" load of crap.   Oh man did I enjoy that idiot being made to look stupid.  Soooo good....

BYE!  Back to talking about the Jets...

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

4 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

No, let's not.  You've proven far beyond a shadow of a doubt that you aren't worth it.

Then stop quoting me- people might get the wrong impression. 

Aaaand you haven't explained your  "virtue-signaling" comment- I am genuinely interested for your reasoning. 

 

4 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

I just waded into this echo chamber to post the video of Don the Asshat Lemon being made to look like an idiot, especially after he thought he was going to have a "slam dunk" on selling his "Trump is a racist" load of crap.   Oh man did I enjoy that idiot being made to look stupid.  Soooo good....

The only one that looked stupid in that video was Mark Dice- then he confirmed it by opening his mouth.  

4 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

"Trump is a racist" load of crap

So... You don't think Trump is racist? I would love it if you were to shed a little light on the subject, maybe I got it all wrong.

[The Unknown Poster]

34 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

No, let's not.  You've proven far beyond a shadow of a doubt that you aren't worth it.

I just waded into this echo chamber to post the video of Don the Asshat Lemon being made to look like an idiot, especially after he thought he was going to have a "slam dunk" on selling his "Trump is a racist" load of crap.   Oh man did I enjoy that idiot being made to look stupid.  Soooo good....

BYE!  Back to talking about the Jets...

1) Don didnt look stupid (and I say this having previously ridiculed Don).   The "you can say and do racist things and not be racist" thing is absurd and silly and rather meaningless anyway.  if anyone looked silly, it was King's nephew.

2) Doing the jab and run is lame.

3) Taking part in discussion in this thread while also ridiculing the thread itself comes across as lame also.  We all know you're very right wing (I've often agreed with you).  But if this is an "echo chamber" its because your pal Trump is consistent in his ignorance and shallowness.

I find it amusing that investigations and criticisms of a right wing idiot offends some conservatives.  For me, the last thing I want is an idiot like Trump representing my political perspective.  As a conservative, I'd want him gone, not defend him blindly. 

But it does expose those who hide their true nature.  I guess if Trump isnt racist, then his defenders arent either.  uh huh.

[Mark F]

Here's a good article about Trump's man Sessions. Ag of the USA.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions-champion-anti-muslim-and-anti-immigrant-extremists

 

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Sessions has a close relationship with the “big three” anti-immigrant groups.

He regularly attends events hosted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform(FAIR), which has been named as a hate group by the SPLC since 2007. FAIR was founded by Tanton, a white nationalist who in 1993 wrote, “I’ve come to the point of view that for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that.”

 

If that's not racist, there's no such thing as racism.

 

[The Unknown Poster]

4 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Here's a good article about Trump's man Sessions. Ag of the USA.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions-champion-anti-muslim-and-anti-immigrant-extremists

 

If that's not racist, there's no such thing as racism.

 

Yup.  And his man Miller?  Big racist.  Its Trump's advisers that are pushing this. They're manipulating him.  Trump goes from publicly declaring he'd sign any bipartisan agreement put in front of him to refusing to even look at it in, what was it, two hours between phone calls?  The Republicans are out saying they dont even know what Trump wants.  Its be3cause its the advisers pushing this thing.  What do they care, they arent elected.  They arent answerable to the public.

Miller?  Huge agenda.  He's a fox in the henhouse and answerable to no one but Trumb.

Edited January 18, 2018 by The Unknown Poster

[blue_gold_84]

19 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

How fitting that it's a Rotten Ronny's bag.

7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

2) Doing the jab and run is lame.

All too common on social media these days. But it says more about the jab-and-runner than anything else.

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[The Unknown Poster]

Yikes. This is a harsh read