bustamente Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 I can't believe the Senate ruined Trumps golf weekend blue_gold_84, johnzo, The Unknown Poster and 1 other 1 1 2
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 I’ve been really busy this weekend so haven’t had my eyes and ears glued to the news but I feel like the White House is doing a good job of getting their word out that this is the dems fault. It sounds like Schumer conceded the wall but republicans still won’t Agree. They want DACA off the bill. Because they don’t want DACA. They want those people deported. Period. Dems should stand their ground on that (they probably won’t).
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 17 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: And what does Cheeto 45 do? He blames the Democrats. That's an incredible demonstration of monumental stupidity. It’s some twisting to blame dems. They rely on the basic fact that to pass they need some dems to support it. But trump already said he’d sign any bipartisan bill and then changed his mind. Also he’s the one that suspended DACA. He could also extend CHIP but wants it attached to this bill so he can say dems are robbing Americans. But the White House doesn’t want DACA anyway. And ofcourse why are they even arguing over funding for the wall when Mexico is going to pay for it lol
The Unknown Poster Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Looks like Dems caved P EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon. Word is Schumer offered to fund the wall in return for the Dreamers being able to stay. Which is a great deal since, you know, Mexico is paying for everything lol Talk is White House wanted Dems to agree to some of their harder line immigration reforms though since the wall is still not a certainty. I assume that will be the basis for the deal Edited January 22, 2018 by The Unknown Poster
The Unknown Poster Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Trump deserves a lot of credit for one major accomplishment. Making W popular! I said many times that history would remember Bush a lot more favourably Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Trump deserves a lot of credit for one major accomplishment. Making W popular! I said many times that history would remember Bush a lot more favourably
The Unknown Poster Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 this seems like a great idea ... SPuDS 1
SPuDS Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: this seems like a great idea ... For the USA or for the plethora of lol's that will undoubtedly follow? Mark F 1
Mark H. Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 On 2018-01-20 at 9:10 PM, blue_gold_84 said: And what does Cheeto 45 do? He blames the Democrats. That's an incredible demonstration of monumental stupidity. Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support?
blue_gold_84 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support? Yes, it does. But the image was posted simply to highlight the historic aspect as well as Trump's Twitter history coming back to bite him in the backside. Anyway, the lights are back on in DC: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/shutdown-talks-us-senate-monday-1.4498038 The Unknown Poster and Mark H. 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Damn- getting closer... SPuDS 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Mark H. said: Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support? The way I understand it (and im no expert by a long shot), its not that passing the bill requires 60%, but that the Senate can filibuster anything they want and to break a filibuster, you need a super majority. There are time constraints on debate in the Senate. So Dems dont like a bill, they filibuster. GOP wants to break it, they need a super majority. Or I could be way off.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 Buried under the shutdown news last week were reports of Trump engaging in an active affair in the White House. SPuDS, johnzo, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
blue_gold_84 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 Ha! Stormy. I see what you did there, Mr. Adler. SPuDS 1
Mark F Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said: Ha! Stormy. I see what you did there, Mr. Adler. She's got major leverage now. Mrs Trump that is. Stormy has cleverage. Edited January 23, 2018 by Mark F FrostyWinnipeg, blue_gold_84 and SPuDS 2 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mark F said: She's got major leverage now. Mrs Trump that is. Stormy has cleverage. There was a strong rumour that their marriage was over and the deal was she’s play the wife for the campaign. Then he won.
Mark F Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities. johnzo 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mark F said: I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities. You mean by Trump specifically? Cause the special counsel has already laid charges and gotten guilty pleas. I would not be surprised if he recommends charges for Trump. Whether he ends up impeached is another story. The charges could be what republicans might deem “minor” though. I don’t think we’re that close to finding out yet. Mark F 1
Mark F Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: You mean by Trump specifically? Yes. But honestly, I don't know much about it, I'm just very cynical about the U.S. as it is now.
HardCoreBlue Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mark F said: I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities. Simply from being mesmerized from this ongoing gong show, how anti-climatic would that be . Like Geraldo opening the vault and nothing there. After 68 years of investigation we have found some serious improprieties but nothing illegal. Blech. The longer the investigation takes, the worse or better it is for those being investigated? Hard to tell. Mark F 1
bustamente Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 Wonder who the POTUS will push aside in Davos during the photo op. blue_gold_84 and Mark F 2
The Unknown Poster Posted January 24, 2018 Report Posted January 24, 2018 12 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Simply from being mesmerized from this ongoing gong show, how anti-climatic would that be . Like Geraldo opening the vault and nothing there. After 68 years of investigation we have found some serious improprieties but nothing illegal. Blech. The longer the investigation takes, the worse or better it is for those being investigated? Hard to tell. Based on what everyone said about Mueller, the *appearance* is that his investigation is being done well. He's certainly interviewed people close to the president and flipped a couple of people that would know things. If there are any bombshells, one scenario would be charges for someone like Kushner, Don Jr etc, who Trump would then pardon. And recommended charges against Trump...leading to articles of impeachment which the GOP controlled congress would not proceed on. So everyone would know Trump is a crook but nothing happens.
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