The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 Trump delivers a speech about the shooting but DOES NOT MENTION GUNS. Good God. Says he will make schools safer. Music to the ears of gun nuts. Arms the teachers! heck, arm the students! Make schools into impregnable fortresses with military style security. Who's going to pay for that? The middle class of course, through a Safe School tax. After all, would you not pay to make your children safe?
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 It’s the citizens fault for not praying hard enough. blue_gold_84 1
JCon Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I hope he means his own How do you tackle mental health when you can't even provide all of your citizens basic healthcare? I assume they'll be locking more people away. Edited February 15, 2018 by JCon
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I hope he means his own He plans to check himself in? blue_gold_84 1
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 Its nonsense. What changed after vegas? They find ways to deflect from the real issue and people forget about it in time. Like the cops can suddenly be mental healthy professionals or lock away anyone they suspect of anything. Its ridiculous. Trump always sounds like he's struggling with these prepared speeches where he has to sound presidential and caring. He doesnt give a ****. Not a single mention of "gun". If this kid bought beer, they'd arrest him. Owning an AR-15? His constitutional right. Americans can change this. There are published lists of congress members who receive money from the NRA. Do not vote for them. If unsure, vote Democrat. This issue is too important to be party loyal.
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 There are very fine people on both sides of the gun. Both sides. blue_gold_84, Wanna-B-Fanboy and The Unknown Poster 2 1
pigseye Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 Obama couldn't get it done in 8 years, what makes you think Trump would do anything? This is a consequence of a systemic problem with American society.
iHeart Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 no one has been able to get it done even Clinton and Bush didn't get it done during their times in office
JCon Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, iHeart said: no one has been able to get it done even Clinton and Bush didn't get it done during their times in office Clinton did bring some reforms forward. I believe they've all been reversed.
iHeart Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 I bet Hillary would have put them back
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 President has limited power. Blame congress. Right now you have a government where the same party controls all three branches. If the GOP (from Trump to Congress) wanted gun control, they'd have it tomorrow. Its that simple. Congress stonewalled many Obama attempts at gun control. They wont even debate it. They are bought and paid for. Period.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, iHeart said: I bet Hillary would have put them back Supposedly wikileaks released emails showing Hilary was harder on gun control than she let on and was going to try to end run congress using executive orders. If a Democratic President and Congress enacted strict control, Im not sure it would ever be undone. People who cry about their rights would eventually see that nothing changed. Only the crazies thaty feel the need to stockpile assault weapons for the coming end of times would be mad. And they probably shouldnt have guns at all.
iHeart Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) and here's where it gets more upsetting he was training with white supremacists http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-nikolas-cruz-trained-florida-white-supremacist-group-rof/ Edited February 15, 2018 by iHeart
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 At least the kid wasn't old enough to beat his wife......
JCon Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 54 minutes ago, iHeart said: I would have defunded the NRA How do you defund the NRA? johnzo 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/bess-kalb-nra-tweets_us_5a84ee69e4b0058d5565cbac Kimmel Writer Calls Out GOP In Blistering Replies To 'Prayers' After Florida Shooting Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
Jacquie Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, JCon said: How do you defund the NRA? To start, take away their charity status. JCon, Wanna-B-Fanboy, Mark F and 1 other 4
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) The Center for Responsive Politics , a nonpartisan think tank that tracks money in politics, found that in 2016 more than half of the members of the House of Representatives — or 232 of the 435 — received money from gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America. That money went disproportionately to Republicans. Only nine Democrats received campaign contributions from these groups. Some charity. Edited February 15, 2018 by do or die
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, pigseye said: Obama couldn't get it done in 8 years, what makes you think Trump would do anything? This is a consequence of a systemic problem with American society. Cuz he has all three branches of government? The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Cuz he has all three branches of government? Yup. He could ban automatic rifles tomorrow, assuming the GOP wouldnt turn on him. He wont though.
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004. Currently 43 states have no ban on assault weapons. But no real need for any form of legislation on this.......
The Unknown Poster Posted February 15, 2018 Report Posted February 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, do or die said: The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004. Currently 43 states have no ban on assault weapons. But no real need for any form of legislation on this....... And whats the argument? 2nd Amendment? Thats so silly. Even if you interpret the amendment to guarantee gun rights, which many people do NOT believe it does, people treat that amendment as if it's written in stone. They have changed or added/deleted amendments all the time. They are not written in stone. And one can make the argument that an assault weapon is totally unneeded. If the argument is that you cant cherry pick when it comes to right the bear arms, whats next? Can they walk into WalMart and buy a missile launcher? How about a nuclear weapon? No thats crazy. Civilians having assault weapons is crazy. The rest of the world laughs at America on this issue.
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