Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 25, 2018 Report Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Quote “It’s sick. It’s desperately sick,” Huckabee said. “And, there’s all these people who are trying to say, ‘Oh, well, they deserve it.’ Nobody deserves to be treated like this.” -Sarah Sanders Oh My bad- the Huckabee quote was about her experience at the Red Hen and not about refugee children being used as ransom... what a *****.
Mark F Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Trump's trade wars "easy to win"are starting to backfire, no surprise there. There's a number of examples of industries in the states that are already either laying people off, or raising prices, or moving factories out of the USA, because of tariff increases from countries he has attacked. latest.... harley davidson moving production out of USA. Says he's "disappointed" in Harley Davidson. What a complete prick. What should they do, just close, to honour him? He is causing havoc. Edited June 26, 2018 by Mark F
The Unknown Poster Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 Im surprised these people are so tone deaf about the Red Hen. I guess I shouldn't be. I mean, if Sarah was gay and was refused service, they'd be celebrating it.
itchy Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: "Reunify you with your family or whoever it be"? Do they even plan on reuniting these children with their families? Definitely doesn't sound like they have a plan to. Disgusting!
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Just going out on a limb here, but NONE of those countries have trump properties one them... "The order suspends entry into the U.S. from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen for 90 days. But critics have argued that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates were not included, even though a report from the Cato Institute showed that the three countries were the point of origin for people responsible for 94.1 percent of American deaths due to terrorist attacks in the U.S. Eighteen of the 19 people responsible for the 11 September 2001 attacks also hailed from those three countries." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trumps-muslim-ban-exclude-countries-businesses/ Edited June 26, 2018 by wanna-b-fanboy The Unknown Poster 1
Mark F Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Just going out on a limb here, but NONE of those countries have trump properties one them... It's Easy to get off the list. build a hotel, put Trump's name on it, and give him money. Also, have to have a big ceremony with a celebrity concert. and a crystal orb. While we are overwhelmed by Trump, he's not the first President *******, just the most obvious. Quote Bush's behavior seems to be tracking with the imperial style he unveiled last year to Bob Woodward in an interview for the book, Bush at War. "That's the interesting thing about being the president," Bush said. "Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." Edited June 26, 2018 by Mark F
The Unknown Poster Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Mark F said: It's Easy to get off the list. build a hotel, put Trump's name on it, and give him money. Also, have to have a big ceremony with a celebrity concert. and a crystal orb. While we are overwhelmed by Trump, he's not the first President *******, just the most obvious. Bush was George Washington compared to Trump. lol (Caveat, I liked W but lets not get into a pro/con debate about him lol).
johnzo Posted June 26, 2018 Report Posted June 26, 2018 On 2018-06-25 at 2:01 PM, wanna-b-fanboy said: Oh My bad- the Huckabee quote was about her experience at the Red Hen and not about refugee children being used as ransom... what a *****. furthermore on not being served in America: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623307762/walgreens-pharmacist-denies-drug-for-woman-with-unviable-pregnancy In some states in the USA, a pharmacist's religion trumps their patient's health.
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 shocker. I don’t know if this is a far left protest vote or the mobilizing of people so opposed to the far right that they are embracing a new “change” mantra.
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 On 2018-06-25 at 6:59 PM, Mark F said: Trump's trade wars "easy to win"are starting to backfire, no surprise there. There's a number of examples of industries in the states that are already either laying people off, or raising prices, or moving factories out of the USA, because of tariff increases from countries he has attacked. latest.... harley davidson moving production out of USA. Says he's "disappointed" in Harley Davidson. What a complete prick. What should they do, just close, to honour him? He is causing havoc. He should drag the US into a recession just in time for the mid term elections in November.
bustamente Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: shocker. I don’t know if this is a far left protest vote or the mobilizing of people so opposed to the far right that they are embracing a new “change” mantra. Trump says Crowley should of been nicer to him, every time he talks he just shows more and more that he knows nothing about anything.
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, bustamente said: Trump says Crowley should of been nicer to him, every time he talks he just shows more and more that he knows nothing about anything. Yeah trump gloating. I’m not sure he sees what is happening.
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Will electing democrat representatives like that actually defeat Republicans in November? I have my doubts.
Mark F Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: He probably doesn't like having to lay off American workers and it costs them a lot of money to move. Good article yesterday by economist Krugman NYT about what Trump's bull in china shop approach to trade is doing and will do, and how little Trump's advisers know about trade. Wonder if business will pressure Republicans to finally put an end to the insane trade moves. Edited June 27, 2018 by Mark F
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Will electing democrat representatives like that actually defeat Republicans in November? I have my doubts. Its hard to say. In the micro sense, she won a hard Democratic area so it was of no real threat to turn Republican anyway. But in the macro, is it a hard left turn for the Dems? Is it the will of the people, the obvious response to the White Nationalism of Trump? And what does it mean for general Americans? The GOP are spinning it as bad news for the Dems and they already have their talking points ready - that this represents a shift towards far left socialism (how long before they just call them Communists?). But the same has been said of the GOP where hard right Trump supporters have won primaries and the feeling is, thats bad news for the GOP in the general election. But White Nationalists vs Socialists? I would think the racist rhetoric of the alt right has a ceiling and its been reached. How many people voted for Trump as the anti-establishment, drain the swamp candidate and are appalled at what they helped create? Will they vote for the Dems? Would they vote for farther left Dems? Will they stay home? And the other thing is, Hilary won the popular vote and did so without a lot of the support Obama got. There was a rejection of Hilary in many areas. Dems need a dynamic candidate in 2020. Probably a woman, I'd suspect. This could represent a progressive shift. One thing is likely certain, no one will trust polling or predictions. The next couple of years will be a roller coaster. If the Dems take the House, they likely impeach Trump. But unless they somehow win a Senate super majority (which is highly unlikely), he wont be convicted unless there is clear evidence of crimes so heinous that the GOP turns on him. If Republicans get thumped in November, there will be growing unrest in the party and a harsh Mueller report that essentially indicts the President might push them over the edge. Russia will have its work cut out for it.
Mark F Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-trade-war.html Quote First, the administration has no idea what it’s doing. Its ideas on trade don’t seem to have evolved at all from those expressed in a white paper circulated by Wilbur Ross, now the commerce secretary, and Peter Navarro, now the trade czar, in 2016. That white paper was a display of sheer ignorance that had actual trade experts banging their heads on their desks. So these people are completely unprepared for the coming blowback. Second, this administration is infested — I use that word advisedly — with conspiracy theorists. I predict that as the downsides of hard-line trade policy become apparent, we’ll see a nasty search by President Trump and company for people to scapegoat. In fact, that search has already started. Edited June 27, 2018 by Mark F Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mark F said: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-trade-war.html Thanks for that article. My favourite lines: Quote And remember, soybeans and steel offer just a minor preview of the disruptions ahead. How will the administration react to the blowback when the trade war really gets going? Will it admit that it misjudged the effects of its policies? Of course not. What I predict, instead, is that it will start seeing villains under every bed. It will attribute the downsides of trade conflict not to its own actions, but to George Soros and the deep state. I’m not sure how they can work MS-13 into it, but they’ll surely try. The point is that the politics of trade war will probably end up looking like Trump politics in general: a search for innocent people to demonize. Mark F 1
17to85 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Will electing democrat representatives like that actually defeat Republicans in November? I have my doubts. To me it is more of an indication that people are motivated to vote for a change in the status quo and that should ******* terrify the Republicans. The most terrifying thing for wannabe dictators is a motivated voting base. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: To me it is more of an indication that people are motivated to vote for a change in the status quo and that should ******* terrify the Republicans. The most terrifying thing for wannabe dictators is a motivated voting base. I would think so as well because this was a heavy Democratic area and he was a long-time incumbent so anger against the GOP is one thing, but to completely turn towards progressive social reform *could* indicate a major "change" initiative coming. That always means higher voter turn out and that would traditionally be bad for the GOP.
17to85 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Apathy in the states is a big thing because with a right wing party and a super right wing party a lot of people have the mentality that everyone is the same, but if people are going out and voting trying to change that then it means that people want change and change is bad for republicans, very bad because change never includes sticking with the corrupt as all hell stuck in the 1950s party. Change always means a more progressive government. The Unknown Poster 1
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