do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Well, the very first article of impeachment against Nixon was....... Obstruction by directing others to lie.
17to85 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 buy guyz! Mueller hasn't found anything yet! We better hope he does! The Unknown Poster 1
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Could all be a nothingberder The Unknown Poster, JCon and blue_gold_84 3
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Interesting timing on that leak I was just thinking of that exchange when I was reading the Buzzfeed article. That and the Barrs and the Muellers are actually friends.... lol. The Unknown Poster 1
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Also on one of the the hearing videos: Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham: "If there was some reason to believe that the president tried to coach somebody not to testify or to testify falsely that could be obstruction of justice?" Barr: "Yes," The Unknown Poster 1
pigseye Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, do or die said: Well, the very first article of impeachment against Nixon was....... Obstruction by directing others to lie. That is a serious charge, the kind that will get Trump thrown to the wolves, no escaping that one. Looks like it's only a matter of time now before we find out just how indebted to the Russian's Trump really is. The Unknown Poster 1
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 .....try about 400-450 Million Dollars (via a certain German bank that has a long history of laundering money for the Russians)
pigseye Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, do or die said: .....try about 400-450 Million Dollars (via a certain German bank that has a long history of laundering money for the Russians) Yup, the position of presidential candidate opened up new business opportunities for Trump with the Russians, among others. I don't think he ever expected to win but when he did, that kind of made those business relations look like payoffs.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Reporting that Trump was taken aback when Barr described his close relationship with Mueller. lol Can you imagine if he tried to yank Barr's nomination? Buzzfeed's story hasnt been confirmed by other news outlets but Buzzfeed said it's rock solid and goes beyond two sources. If true, it's the smoking gun and it's the end of Trumps's Presidency...unless the GOP saves him in the Senate by effectively proclaiming him above the law. And if he is removed, that eliminated the barrier to indictment and likely sets him up for criminal charges and jail time.
Tracker Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, 17to85 said: buy guyz! Mueller hasn't found anything yet! We better hope he does! Oh, yes he has. Hang in awhile longer.
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 It can't be the end......haven't ever dealt with the Trump Family potential misuse of funds, defrauding tax payers, tax evasion, emollient violations, fake trusts, etc
pigseye Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Reporting that Trump was taken aback when Barr described his close relationship with Mueller. lol Can you imagine if he tried to yank Barr's nomination? Buzzfeed's story hasnt been confirmed by other news outlets but Buzzfeed said it's rock solid and goes beyond two sources. If true, it's the smoking gun and it's the end of Trumps's Presidency...unless the GOP saves him in the Senate by effectively proclaiming him above the law. And if he is removed, that eliminated the barrier to indictment and likely sets him up for criminal charges and jail time. Buzzfeed also reported that Mueller had emails to back it up, that's pretty much game over.
pigseye Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, do or die said: It can't be the end......haven't ever dealt with the Trump Family potential misuse of funds, defrauding tax payers, tax evasion, emollient violations, fake trusts, etc That's just part of everyday business in Merica.
Tracker Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 I am stunned that Trump has ordered some federal employees to report to work without being paid. Firstly, some of these "essential services workers" are those tasked with issuing petroleum exploration permits- hardly "essential". Secondly, I'm pretty sure that being ordered to work without payment under threat is a classic definition of slavery. How can the American courts countenance this? The Unknown Poster 1
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pigseye said: That's just part of everyday business in Merica. Yes, but they don't call them the First Family for nothing..... Edited January 18, 2019 by do or die
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tracker said: I am stunned that Trump has ordered some federal employees to report to work without being paid. Firstly, some of these "essential services workers" are those tasked with issuing petroleum exploration permits- hardly "essential". Secondly, I'm pretty sure that being ordered to work without payment under threat is a classic definition of slavery. How can the American courts countenance this? Either he doesnt care (which is probably always true) or he thinks the workers will be angry and it will put pressure on the Dems. Someone has convinced him that he's right and the Dems are wrong and the public agrees. But the polling doesnt support that. Ordering people to work unpaid is likely only going to add pressure to his own position. Maybe he thinks if the government is shut down he can't be arrested, indicted, impeached or removed. lol
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do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Either he doesnt care (which is probably always true) or he thinks the workers will be angry and it will put pressure on the Dems. Someone has convinced him that he's right and the Dems are wrong and the public agrees. But the polling doesnt support that. Ordering people to work unpaid is likely only going to add pressure to his own position. Maybe he thinks if the government is shut down he can't be arrested, indicted, impeached or removed. lol Fortunately, the two White House Chiefs, have been deemed essential employees.....so The Don, can still stuff his face.
bustamente Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 As more info about the Trump mafia comes out Don Vito will start to lose support from Republican';s fearing that they will go down for supporting a crime boss, his base is starting to dwindle and American's are starting to realize that the whole Trumpioso family is dirty in business and in personal life, something many have known for years
Tracker Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 55 minutes ago, bustamente said: As more info about the Trump mafia comes out Don Vito will start to lose support from Republican';s fearing that they will go down for supporting a crime boss, his base is starting to dwindle and American's are starting to realize that the whole Trumpioso family is dirty in business and in personal life, something many have known for years Not necessarily. These are the same people who still believe that Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret Muslim, and invaded a hapless pizza parlour armed to the teeth on the belief that Hillary was operating a pedophile ring out of a non-existent basement there. There will be some reasonably sane supporters who have seen or will see the massive scam they bought into and fade away but more than half of those who claim to be Republicans would be quite ok with the imposition of a right-wing/ "Christian)" dictatorship in the US. Both the right wing and fundamentalist "Christians" subscribe to the "trust and obey" dictates and delegate their morality to others. You may want to look into the Stanford Project some time.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 You know what this tweet means? It means the GOP is cracking. Trump is soooo transparent.
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 There are 26 Republican incumbents up for re-election in the Senate, this next go round. The Shutdown's effects are going to really mushroom, very soon....With the Republican "leadership" in House and Senate, prostrate on all fours and bending over for Trump - they will get to wear it, as each day passes.
JCon Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, do or die said: There are 26 Republican incumbents up for re-election in the Senate, this next go round. The Shutdown's effects are going to really mushroom, very soon....With the Republican "leadership" in House and Senate, prostrate on all fours and bending over for Trump - they will get to wear it, as each day passes. There's a good reason Cocaine Mitch won't let them vote, he's afraid they'll pass it (again) but this time with a super-majority so Trump can't veto it. In fact, the best strategy for Trump in this situation would be to allow the vote to come without the ability to veto it. He can jump up and down and try to make it an election issue. He can tweet away in his diaper and throw things. Of course, we all know that he won't make it to the next election but still... Edited January 18, 2019 by JCon Typo
pigseye Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3537/Will-Donald-Trump-be-impeached-in-his-first-term Now you can follow along
do or die Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Sure saves a lot of research......thanks
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