The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I was thinking the same thing, but then there is a lot to digest. And there was a Jets game last night. I have been watching CNN, and my take is that a lot of Democrats are reluctant to proceed to impeachment, despite a lot of goading from Wolf, Chris, Jake and Don. May be smarter to just use in the upcoming election as impeachment is pretty tough even with a smoking gun. So you’ve turned on trump now? Weren’t you suggesting g there was nothing to see in the report before?
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, Mark H. said: You are seriously using 911 to make a point? A conspiracy theory that is easily disproved by the most basic physics... Because it's the same partisan, paranoid school of thought. Begin with a conclusion, ignore findings as part of a "coverup", see absence of evidence as proof of how good conspiracy was carried out.
pigseye Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 Let them have their fun, it's the mud slinging that they enjoy.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 Wasn’t this guy praising the report and Mueller not that long ago? Lol hes going to lose his mind. Although I doubt he’ll read it. So he’ll glean stuff from what he sees on Fox News.
Mark H. Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zontar said: Because it's the same partisan, paranoid school of thought. Begin with a conclusion, ignore findings as part of a "coverup", see absence of evidence as proof of how good conspiracy was carried out. That means absolutely nothing. Planes fly at 500 - 600 km/h, jet fuel is explosive, steel does not need to melt in order to collapse, office supplies and furniture burn fast and hot.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Zontar said: No, but unless you can tell me the report found collusion and obstruction of same and recommend proceeding with criminal charges please link me the pages. Serious question. Are you a parody account? I mean....you didn’t read any of the report but you’re actually going to say there is no collusion or obstruction? I mean dude...the report is chalk full of collusion and obstruction. It implicitly states that congress should take up the obstruction aspect and hold trump accountable for abuses of power. Like...that’s the report. You wanted to ignore it before anyone had it and you want to ignore it now that everyone sees it. Why?
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 He wasn't "praising it" . He said he was vindicated by it and he was. Every right to be angry at report that was supposed to find he was a Russian agent that degenerated into a smear job of half assed obstruction innuendo after Mueller realized collusion was a hoax but still had to embarrass him with something.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Mark H. said: That means absolutely nothing. Planes fly at 500 - 600 km/h, jet fuel is explosive, steel does not need to melt in order to collapse, office supplies and furniture burn fast and hot. Oh is he a 9/11 truther? lol that explains a lot. Mark F 1
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Zontar said: He wasn't "praising it" . He said he was vindicated by it and he was. Every right to be angry at report that was supposed to find he was a Russian agent that degenerated into a smear job of half assed obstruction innuendo after Mueller realized collusion was a hoax but still had to embarrass him with something. You’re not even trying. It’s full of collusion. You can’t engage in a debate when you won’t accept the facts.
pigseye Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 So the AG and the DOJ, who stated the evidence doesn't meet the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt are wrong and the press knows better, you do realize how stupid that is don't you?
17to85 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Mark F said: Comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, broken down by president and the numbers. In the last 50+ years Democrats have been in office for 25 of those years while Republicans held it for 28. In their 25 yrs in office Democrats had a total of three executive branch officials indicted with one (1) conviction and one prison sentence. that's one whole executive branch official convicted of a crime in two and a half decades of Democrat leadership. In the 28 yrs that Republicans have held office over the last 53yrs they have had a total of 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials, 89 criminal convictions, and 34 prison sentences handed down. so both sides right Mark F 1
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 L 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Serious question. Are you a parody account? I mean....you didn’t read any of the report but you’re actually going to say there is no collusion or obstruction? I mean dude...the report is chalk full of collusion and obstruction. It implicitly states that congress should take up the obstruction aspect and hold trump accountable for abuses of power. Like...that’s the report. You wanted to ignore it before anyone had it and you want to ignore it now that everyone sees it. Why? If the evidence is so clear to you and not just anti trump wish fulfillment then FBI should be laying charges any minute now. We can continue exchange when Trump is indicted on collusion and obstruction.
pigseye Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 What would happen if you inserted blacks/Hispanics in place of republicans and whites in place of democrats in what you just posted.
17to85 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Zontar said: L If the evidence is so clear to you and not just anti trump wish fulfillment then FBI should be laying charges any minute now. We can continue exchange when Trump is indicted on collusion and obstruction. the report literally says it was beyond their scope to make charges against the president and that it's congress who decides on that.... why ignore everything in the report and cling to this bullshit? I hope to god you're just trolling because if not you sir are a complete ******* moron. bb.king and Mark F 1 1
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: You’re not even trying. It’s full of collusion. You can’t engage in a debate when you won’t accept the facts. Accept the fact Mueller found no collusion and no obstruction after a two and half year investigation. If he did Trump would be facing charges this second. He's not because there is nothing. These are facts and that's why Collusion-Truthers and partisan media hair is on fire.
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 17to85 said: the report literally says it was beyond their scope to make charges against the president and that it's congress who decides on that.... why ignore everything in the report and cling to this bullshit? I hope to god you're just trolling because if not you sir are a complete ******* moron. It is his perview to recommend charges. FYI can still ignore everything in report and still lay charges. So why aren't they? Edited April 19, 2019 by Zontar
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Zontar said: No, but unless you can tell me the report found collusion and obstruction of same and recommend proceeding with criminal charges please link me the pages. There was more than enough evidence to indict for obstruction of justice. Charges were not brought against trump because (Mueller even checked with doj about indicting a sitting president) he chose not to bring charges against trump for obstruction because trump would not get the chance to defend himself in court.
pigseye Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: There was more than enough evidence to indict for obstruction of justice. Charges were not brought against trump because (Mueller even checked with doj about indicting a sitting president) he chose not to bring charges against trump for obstruction because trump would not get the chance to defend himself in court. Exactly, nothing can come of this except the bad press, mud slinging, you just admitted as much.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, pigseye said: So the AG and the DOJ, who stated the evidence doesn't meet the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt are wrong and the press knows better, you do realize how stupid that is don't you? Pretending the report isn’t what it is is very stupid.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, pigseye said: Exactly, nothing can come of this except the bad press, mud slinging, you just admitted as much. Or... Congress to do its job and impeach... you infer too much.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, pigseye said: So the AG and the DOJ, who stated the evidence doesn't meet the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt are wrong and the press knows better, you do realize how stupid that is don't you? Pretending the report isn’t what it is is very stupid.
Zontar Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: There was more than enough evidence to indict for obstruction of justice. Charges were not brought against trump because (Mueller even checked with doj about indicting a sitting president) he chose not to bring charges against trump for obstruction because trump would not get the chance to defend himself in court. Rubbish. Investigation was predicated on collusion . Full stop. Mueller wouldn't go all in on obstruction realizing the futility of charging obstruction of a crime that never happened.
pigseye Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Pretending the report isn’t what it is is very stupid. And pretending the AG and DOJ don't know what they're talking about when it comes to the burden of proof is delusional.
The Unknown Poster Posted April 19, 2019 Report Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Just now, Zontar said: Rubbish. Investigation was predicated on collusion . Full stop. Mueller wouldn't go all in on obstruction realizing the futility of charging obstruction of a crime that never happened. Fortunately you don’t know the law. Nor do you know what the special counsel was tasked with. Once you accept that you will accept how damning this report is. Edited April 19, 2019 by The Unknown Poster
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