Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Zontar said: Bernie just tweeted he thinks the guy is a plant... political dirty tricks etc. Oh you're a sly one, Liz. lol Well at this point- anything goes. If this is Indeed a political maneuver- it shows Liz can play with the big boys.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Gop coronating trump as king they let all this new evidence disappear. But yeah Bernie vs Liz is definitely the big news of the day lol
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Gop coronating trump as king they let all this new evidence disappear. But yeah Bernie vs Liz is definitely the big news of the day lol To be fair- the Lev Parnas thing took place at night and it is a new thing that came out of left field- everyone had an eye on the bernie vs Liz thing The Lev stuff will blow up tomorrow.
do or die Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Parnas implicating Trump, Rudy, Pence and Barr. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478528-parnas-reveals-new-accusations-against-trump-in-maddow-interview But really, how much of this is some sort of surprise?
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: To be fair- the Lev Parnas thing took place at night and it is a new thing that came out of left field- everyone had an eye on the bernie vs Liz thing The Lev stuff will blow up tomorrow. No I only meant among certain people here. Lol
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 The clowns are marching in now. Press secretary trying to laugh off Parnas since he had a company called fraud guarantee. Ummmm so why was rudy working with him? Trying to say well what he says about rudy has nothing to do with trump. man...they really are going to throw rudy under the bus aren’t they. Wideleft 1
do or die Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: The clowns are marching in now. Press secretary trying to laugh off Parnas since he had a company called fraud guarantee. Ummmm so why was rudy working with him? Trying to say well what he says about rudy has nothing to do with trump. man...they really are going to throw rudy under the bus aren’t they. Like Cohen The Unknown Poster and Wideleft 2
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Meanwhile Barr’s DOJ doesn’t care. Keep in mind this bombshell evidence from Parnas is only public because he asked a judge to allow him to give it to the House. The DOJ has the evidence for weeks and did nothinf with it. Cover up.
Zontar Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: To be fair the Avenatti re arrest was part of the news cycle too.
do or die Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Good news is that Trump finally got Ukraine to announce they were starting a criminal investigation. Too bad for Trump..... that it's actually an investigation into the criminal Trump regime. johnzo, blue_gold_84, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 1 3
17to85 Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 12 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't think that is Zontar's stance. I think it has more to do with the fact he is fed up with the perceived double standards of the progressive left and the things that the progressives do that smack of hypocrisy... I think he feels that those that support a liberal and progressive agenda think that there is no wrong on the left (there clearly is) and it is only the right that perpetrates wrong doings... which is fair- many of us call out all the regressive policies and racism and so on and so on... yet we don't really criticize the left. For example, Bernie basically called Warren a liar on national tv last night, and no one is really trashing him for it here. @Zontar takes it a few degrees further, but I don't think he supports trump- I think he just tries to remind us that as we criticize trump and the alt-right that we never criticize those harmfull things that the left have done... it smacks of whataboutism, but I think in his case, it's more - you should treat egregiousness the same regardless of left or right or what ever tribe you subscribe to... and, yeah- he's not wrong. Obama doubled down with the illegal drone strike program, bailed out wall street, shat all over Flint Michigan, continued pretty much what his predecessor did in terms of government ( the big things, the things that stay consistent from admin to admin) and the left only see rainbows coming outta his ass... and wish that he was back to shoot hoops and wax musical with a bit of Al Green. So, I understand where Zontar is coming from- I don't agree with him on a lot of politics, but he does have a few points when it comes to a double standard. No that is wrong. He hand waves away major offenses and tries to create false equivalencies. There is now right or left, only objectivity. The left does stuff bad I call them out too, but nothing the left does is anywhere close to as bad as what the Republicans are doing, and any attempt to hand wave it away with a dishonest both sides argument is tantamount to endorsing it and saying it is fine. Just so long as those pesky minorities are kept in their place. The Unknown Poster, bb.king and Mark F 2 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, do or die said: Parnas implicating Trump, Rudy, Pence and Barr. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478528-parnas-reveals-new-accusations-against-trump-in-maddow-interview But really, how much of this is some sort of surprise? 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: The clowns are marching in now. Press secretary trying to laugh off Parnas since he had a company called fraud guarantee. Ummmm so why was rudy working with him? Trying to say well what he says about rudy has nothing to do with trump. man...they really are going to throw rudy under the bus aren’t they. 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Meanwhile Barr’s DOJ doesn’t care. Keep in mind this bombshell evidence from Parnas is only public because he asked a judge to allow him to give it to the House. The DOJ has the evidence for weeks and did nothinf with it. Cover up. All of the above... yet no mention of any of the above on fox news... it is insane how dishonestly partisan they are... but look out if you wear a ******* Tan suit.... JHC... The Unknown Poster 1
do or die Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: All of the above... yet no mention of any of the above on fox news... it is insane how dishonestly partisan they are... but look out if you wear a ******* Tan suit.... JHC... Well, why do you think that Trump only appears on Fox?
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, do or die said: Well, why do you think that Trump only appears on Fox? There was a time when fox would at least feign being "fair and balanced"- yeah they don't even try anymore.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Great so when is he going to be indicted
do or die Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Pelosi's "delay" in forwarding the Articles of Impeachment..... is certainly making life harder for ole Mitch, what with all the new evidence coming out before the planned show trial. Edited January 16, 2020 by do or die
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, do or die said: Pelosi's "delay" in forwarding the Articles of Impeachment..... is certainly making life harder for ole Mitch, what with all the new evidence coming out before the planned show trial. Interesting isn’t it? Had she sent them over when the House voted the senate would have acquitted trump already. They still will but they’ll have to wear it throughout the election that they ignored evidence and refuses to hear from witnesses who wanted to testify.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 I think trump is confused. Also he clearly thought his gop pals could vote the trial down before it got this far. I mean, that’s why he bowed to their pressure to take out the Iran general isn’t it?
Zontar Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: There was a time when fox would at least feign being "fair and balanced"- yeah they don't even try anymore. Do you think the other networks are fair and balanced ? CNN, for example, pedalled Warrens sexism accusation like it was fact. Hard Pedalled Mueller, Russia-gate, secret meetings in Prague, Steele Dossier, Convington kids...ditto all three networks. Edited January 16, 2020 by Zontar
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zontar said: Do you think the other networks are fair and balanced ? CNN pedalled Warrens sexism accusation like it was fact. Hard Pedalled Mueller, Russia-gate, secret meetings in Prague, Steele Dossier, Convington kids... Well.. not to the level of dishonesty of fox- which is my point. they are not equal in any shape or form. WHat news network would you recommend? I am always on the look out for a good one. As for the Steele Dossier... how much of that dossier has been proven to be wrong? How much of it has proven to be right?
Zontar Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Well.. not to the level of dishonesty of fox- which is my point. they are not equal in any shape or form. WHat news network would you recommend? I am always on the look out for a good one. As for the Steele Dossier... how much of that dossier has been proven to be wrong? How much of it has proven to be right? Steele dossier has been repeatedly debunked .A load of bollocks from the start. IG report showed Comey was warned three seperate times the thing was a lemon...yet proceeded anyway, you know, Orange Man bad gone at any cost etc. Edited January 16, 2020 by Zontar
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Zontar said: Steele dossier has been repeatedly debunked .A load of bollocks from the start. IG report showed Comey was warned three seperate times the thing was a lemon...yet proceeded anyway, you know, Orange Man bad gone at any cost etc. Specifics. As far as I know, none of the Steele dossier was actually proven to be bunk. Please show me, as I was also surprised that nothing in the Dossier was proven to be false- some of it, uncorroborated, yes- but nothing proven to be false. Also, what news networks are trusted to be unbiased? I honestly would like to know which are the better ones, if you have any suggestions- send em my way. blue_gold_84 1
Zontar Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Specifics. As far as I know, none of the Steele dossier was actually proven to be bunk. Please show me, as I was also surprised that nothing in the Dossier was proven to be false- some of it, uncorroborated, yes- but nothing proven to be false. Also, what news networks are trusted to be unbiased? I honestly would like to know which are the better ones, if you have any suggestions- send em my way. Network news is hopelessly corporatized. Their allegiance lies there and not to "journalism". Nuggets of reality ?, sure, But overall they are all compromised. Fox, CNN, NBC (Weinstein who?), all of them. Anyone who uses them to get their info is a fool, imo. If there was even a molecule of truth to the dossier an anything in the Mueller Report it would have been used to buttress the impeachment charge and strengthen the garbage case they have now. Mueller Report and everything with it, all the hype, has been unsurpringly memory holed by everyone except the hardcore conspiracists
bustamente Posted January 16, 2020 Report Posted January 16, 2020 Arizona Senator McSalley called CNN reporter Manu Raju a "Liberal Hack" when he tried to ask her a question, he should of known better than to ask a republican a question since he doesn't work for the Trump News Network
The Unknown Poster Posted January 17, 2020 Report Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Zontar said: Steele dossier has been repeatedly debunked .A load of bollocks from the start. IG report showed Comey was warned three seperate times the thing was a lemon...yet proceeded anyway, you know, Orange Man bad gone at any cost etc. Hahaha no it hasn’t!!! The Steele dossier has been mostly confirmed. Dude stop believing fox!
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