do or die Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 Found it.... Tracker and blue_gold_84 2
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 Representation matters. Noeller, Tracker, Bigblue204 and 3 others 6
Tracker Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 10 hours ago, bustamente said: No wonder their coup attempt failed with idiots like this No doubt that Cruz will be elevated to folk-hero status in Texas for his keen insight and principled stands. blue_gold_84, Bigblue204 and bustamente 3
do or die Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Tracker said: No doubt that Cruz will be elevated to folk-hero status in Texas for his keen insight and principled stands. ...and his stern moral fiber..
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 11 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Funniest reaction and followed by the perfect comment. Bigblue204 and blue_gold_84 2
bustamente Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 Let's get ready to rumble Noeller, Mark F, Tracker and 1 other 3 1
tacklewasher Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 19 hours ago, do or die said: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene files articles of impeachment against Biden https://thehill.com/homenews/house/535317-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-biden Grandstanding for the QAnon cult and other assorted nutjobs. Do the GOP truly understand how inane this makes them look? Isn't there some way to have idiots like this removed if they try this ****? Other than voting them out? Can't a senator be removed? God I'm tired of bullshit. Mark F 1
bustamente Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, tacklewasher said: Isn't there some way to have idiots like this removed if they try this ****? Other than voting them out? Can't a senator be removed? God I'm tired of bullshit. A Senator can be removed by 2/3 votes
JCon Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, bustamente said: A Senator can be removed by 2/3 votes Article 14, Section 3 of the US Constitution: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. blue_gold_84 and bustamente 2
Tracker Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, tacklewasher said: Isn't there some way to have idiots like this removed if they try this ****? Other than voting them out? Can't a senator be removed? God I'm tired of bullshit. What would be the point? The replacement senator would be at least as insane as the last.
HardCoreBlue Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tracker said: What would be the point? The replacement senator would be at least as insane as the last. Individual accountability. JCon, blue_gold_84, bustamente and 1 other 4
Mark F Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, bustamente said: Let's get ready to rumble Democrats appear to have developed some courage. i think the impeachment is going to the senate.
Tracker Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mark F said: Democrats appear to have developed some courage. i think the impeachment is going to the senate. The impeachment notice will be delivered to the Senate Monday morning. Mark F 1
tacklewasher Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Tracker said: The impeachment notice will be delivered to the Senate Monday morning. Trial will start Feb 9th and likely will fail. The Dems really don't control the senate from the looks of it. Tracker 1
do or die Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 The two week delay is going to pose some major problems for the Republicans: GOP was crying about the Dems "unfairly" rushing things through, and not providing Trump with enough time to mount a "adequate defense" Some more time is not going to help in that regard - there is no adequate defense for what happened. No lawyer of note, wants to touch this thing with a ten foot pole. The esteemed Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has filed the papers calling for the impeachment of Joe Biden. You also have the impeachment of Donald Trump. The comparison is going to make the Republicans look like a joke, and serve to further highlight imaginary vs actual crimes. The Republicans biggest problem though..... is looming on the horizon: Watchdog Says Organizer of Capitol Protest Turned Riot 'Received Explicit Support' from 2 GOP Reps https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watchdog-says-organizer-of-capitol-protest-turned-riot-received-explicit-support-from-2-gop-reps/ar-BB1d0nvz?ocid=msedgdhphttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watchdog-says-organizer-of-capitol-protest-turned-riot-received-explicit-support-from-2-gop-reps/ar-BB1d0nvz?ocid=msedgdhp Trump planned to oust acting AG to overturn Georgia election results: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/535510-trump-planned-to-oust-acting-ag-to-overturn-georgia-election-results “The President Threw Us Under the Bus”: Embedding With Pentagon Leadership in Trump’s Chaotic Last Week https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week These stories are coming out on a daily basis. In the next two weeks, there will be many more. The full extent of Trump's attempts to overturn the election, the stoking of his base to "do something" about the "stolen election" and GOP complicity is becoming clearer by the day. The pool of potentially damaging witnesses and submission evidence grows larger, by the minute. Democrats will have the ability to showcase this stuff at trial, and put people under oath. I believe that this thing is going to morph into a trial of the Republican Party. Trump has thrown countless people under the bus, over the years. Now Republicans may have to think about throwing Trump under the bus, to protect the GOP party at large. Also the realization, that no matter what they do - Trump's gonna Trump. A real Hobson's choice here: Impeach Trump and deal with the enraged cult who are capable of anything and Trump in the background calling for civil war on the GOP, or a new patriot party or whatever passes as revenge. Acquit Trump despite the evidence and have Donald paralyzing things with threats to run again, and watch the GOP's reputation, as far as the donor class, swing voters and new demographic and young voters.....go straight into the tank, for a long time. Took longer than I thought......but Trump is now truly the Republican tar baby. Mark F and Tracker 1 1
Tracker Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, do or die said: The two week delay is going to pose some major problems for the Republicans: GOP was crying about the Dems "unfairly" rushing things through, and not providing Trump with enough time to mount a "adequate defense" Some more time is not going to help in that regard - there is no adequate defense for what happened. No lawyer of note, wants to touch this thing with a ten foot pole. The esteemed Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has filed the papers calling for the impeachment of Joe Biden. You also have the impeachment of Donald Trump. The comparison is going to make the Republicans look like a joke, and serve to further highlight imaginary vs actual crimes. The Republicans biggest problem though..... is looming on the horizon: Watchdog Says Organizer of Capitol Protest Turned Riot 'Received Explicit Support' from 2 GOP Reps https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watchdog-says-organizer-of-capitol-protest-turned-riot-received-explicit-support-from-2-gop-reps/ar-BB1d0nvz?ocid=msedgdhphttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watchdog-says-organizer-of-capitol-protest-turned-riot-received-explicit-support-from-2-gop-reps/ar-BB1d0nvz?ocid=msedgdhp Trump planned to oust acting AG to overturn Georgia election results: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/535510-trump-planned-to-oust-acting-ag-to-overturn-georgia-election-results “The President Threw Us Under the Bus”: Embedding With Pentagon Leadership in Trump’s Chaotic Last Week https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week These stories are coming out on a daily basis. In the next two weeks, there will be many more. The full extent of Trump's attempts to overturn the election, the stoking of his base to "do something" about the "stolen election" and GOP complicity is becoming clearer by the day. The pool of potentially damaging witnesses and submission evidence grows larger, by the minute. Democrats will have the ability to showcase this stuff at trial, and put people under oath. I believe that this thing is going to morph into a trial of the Republican Party. Trump has thrown countless people under the bus, over the years. Now Republicans may have to think about throwing Trump under the bus, to protect the GOP party at large. Also the realization, that no matter what they do - Trump's gonna Trump. A real Hobson's choice here: Impeach Trump and deal with the enraged cult who are capable of anything and Trump in the background calling for civil war on the GOP, or a new patriot party or whatever passes as revenge. Acquit Trump despite the evidence and have Donald paralyzing things with threats to run again, and watch the GOP's reputation, as far as the donor class, swing voters and new demographic and young voters.....go straight into the tank, for a long time. Took longer than I thought......but Trump is now truly the Republican tar baby. Apparently a total of 2.7 million was paid out just before the riot from Trump's re-election committee to the various groups who fomented the violence.
Mark F Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, do or die said: Took longer than I thought...... great post , thanks. the whole thing I mean. The idea that he would at that point replace his AG, is insane. 16 minutes ago, Tracker said: Apparently a total of 2.7 million was paid out just before the riot from Trump's re-election committee to the various groups who fomented the violence. wow. they can not let this stuff go. Edited January 23, 2021 by Mark F
bustamente Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 GOP Senators are starting to waffle about convicting Trump, I would be surprised if more than 10 vote along with the Democrats.
17to85 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bustamente said: GOP Senators are starting to waffle about convicting Trump, I would be surprised if more than 10 vote along with the Democrats. Let them be on the wrong side of history.
HardCoreBlue Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bustamente said: GOP Senators are starting to waffle about convicting Trump, I would be surprised if more than 10 vote along with the Democrats. It’s like ah that’s ancient history, let’s move forward and unite and we will dictate what that means and we will also rewrite what happened to fit our unintelligent narrative. Bizarre frustrating and maddening how weak the Democrats are and how it seems so easy just to roll over them with little resistance. What a broken system.
Tracker Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark F said: great post , thanks. the whole thing I mean. The idea that he would at that point replace his AG, is insane. wow. they can not let this stuff go. As has been reported, this was not a beer-hall putsch. This was a deliberate, planned and funded attempt by some of the GOP and Trump loyalists to subvert the American democracy and overthrow a legally elected government. If the Democrats and an independent Department of Justice do not act on this act of sedition, America will pay for it.
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 On 2021-01-22 at 11:53 AM, JCon said: Article 14, Section 3 of the US Constitution: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. "Disability" great description. 3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: It’s like ah that’s ancient history, let’s move forward and unite and we will dictate what that means and we will also rewrite what happened to fit our unintelligent narrative. Bizarre frustrating and maddening how weak the Democrats are and how it seems so easy just to roll over them with little resistance. What a broken system. I have a feeling McConnell will find his 17.
do or die Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 Mitch more than anyone .......is aware that the GOP will be defending 19 incumbent Senate seats, in 2022. Not sure he really gives that much of a crap about the House....
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