US Politics

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

I've been a history/ religion/ political buff all my life. I find it fascinating,  especially the story behind everything . But when I read things like this I don't know if the US survives it. At least the US we know now. In all what's happened since November the crucial point was the vote to impeach in the Senate. They had their chance to say the country is more important than me. And they failed. They had a chance to step back, to pull their country back from the precipice and they chose power and money. I really believe they are f##ked.  I suppose I should still hold out hope for them because when I grew up I would never have thought that the violence in  Ireland could reach some sort of settlement . But the US has a long way to go. Crap like you just posted ( not your posting if you know what I mean  )  shows just how far they need to travel. 

Ireland/Ulster is a wonderful example of what can happen when there is sufficient good will and enough pain and disgust over the past. There is a parallel between Ulster and the US to a degree. In both cases, what may have started out as legitimate protests over real grievances got coopted by essentially criminals who used and are using the veneer of protest to both exacerbate and profit from them to increase their power and wealth. In Ireland, when enough people saw that the IRA had become a criminal organization, dealing in extortion, selling drugs and so forth with no real concern for people, change became possible.

I do not see that awareness in America today, and a low-grade civil war and fracturing of the country is almost inevitable. A poll quoted by CNN reported that a growing percentage of moderate Americans are willing to tell the redneck states to leave. Impossible? An American seer Edgar Cayce predicted racial violence in the US but that the breaking of America would come from class warfare, and I interpret that to mean the wealthy against the poor and that gap has been growing for some 60 years. A political economist about ten years ago stated that so long as the "Communist" in Russia alternative existed to Capitalism, the rich and powerful were careful to not grind the working and middle classes. Once the USSR collapsed along with its pretend socialist government, the field was seen as clear for the 3% to begin to erode the other 97% of their incomes and political power, and that has been growing since 1989.

[the watcher]

Hey guys I REALLY need to get cracking on getting my bookwork done but just want to thank all of you for a great discussion. It's not always easy to find these days. 

[JCon]

Just now, the watcher said:

Hey guys I REALLY need to get cracking on getting my bookwork done but just want to thank all of you for a great discussion. It's not always easy to find these days. 

Work first, play later. Good plan. One that I will not follow. 

[TrueBlue4ever]

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

There's actually a lot of sound research on this that supports this sentiment (pushes glasses up to nose).

[Tracker]

New report exposes Trumpworld connections to a plot to 'strong-arm' elections officials in Michigan
   
Michigan is one of the states where former President Donald Trump and his lawyers, including former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, unsuccessfully tried to overturn Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election. Reporter Mardi Link, in an article published by the Traverse City Record Eagle this week, discusses events in Michigan in late November — when some pro-Trump GOP operatives showed up to examine election data.

The operatives, according to Link, went to Antrim County, where they "identified themselves to township officials as representing Rudy Giuliani's legal team" and "accessed official election data in at least one township, according to local officials." On Nov. 27, Link notes, they examined "two separate paper totals tape" from a precinct tabulator.

Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy told the Record Eagle, "They made calls to township people on Thanksgiving Day to set all this up. They were strong-arming local clerks to get in and see those machines. Some clerks said 'no' or didn't answer their phones. And as soon as we could, we sent out an e-mail telling the clerks not to let them in. Then, we learn after the fact, they'd already been in three different locations."

One of the Republican operatives who showed up in Antrim County on Nov. 27, according to Link, was Katherine Friess — a Washington, D.C.-based attorney known for her connection to Trump allies Roger Stone and Paul Manafort (both of whom were prosecuted on multiple criminal charges and sentenced to prison during Trump's presidency but received presidential pardons from him.

Link reports that according to local Antrim County officials, Friess "bragged" about dining with Trump and Giuliani. The attorney serves as CEO of the lobbying firm, Global Policy Partners, and she previously worked for BKSH & Associates — a Washington-based lobbying firm that was created when, in 1996, two firms merged: Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly (abbreviated as BMSK) and attorney Martin B. Gold's Gold & Liebengood. Long before Trump's presidency, Manafort and Stone worked together at BMSK during the 1980s.

Link explains, "The operatives who visited Antrim County on Nov. 27 included some of the same people who performed a court-sanctioned forensic exam of the county's voting equipment on Dec. 6, as part of a lawsuit filed by Central Lake Township resident Bill Bailey against the county, citing its use of Dominion Voting Machines equipment."

New report exposes Trumpworld connections to a plot to 'strong-arm' elections officials in Michigan - Alternet.org

 

Edited March 6, 2021 by Tracker

[the watcher]

5 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

I'm one of those lucky people who work at something that is what I like doing. ( not the bookwork part  ) I retired from working out a few years ago and started a business with my son. More of a hobby gone out of control lol.

[do or die]

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

SO... this is a thing.

 

Dafuq is wrong with these parents?

 

 

[HardCoreBlue]

5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

SO... this is a thing.

 

Dafuq is wrong with these parents?

 

 

These people are teaching a whole new generation of stupid.

[do or die]

19 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

SO... this is a thing.

 

Dafuq is wrong with these parents?

 

 

Well, seems there were no books at hand.......so they had to do something..

[bustamente]

45 days in and this POTUS has not spent a minute on a golf course on the tax payer dime.

[bustamente]

Stupid Republicans and stupid Americans for electing this imbecile and thinking of putting him back in, he filled his pockets and still doing it on the back of morons

 

[Tracker]

If you think THAT was a amazingly stupid waste of money, consider that the US military has spent close to 2 trillion dollars on a fighter plane that cannot fly in bad weather. Worse yet, the problems are apparently unfixable.

[Mark F]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

If you think THAT was a amazingly stupid waste of money, consider that the US military has spent close to 2 trillion dollars on a fighter plane that cannot fly in bad weather. Worse yet, the problems are apparently unfixable.

you mean this F 35?

"The F-35 controversy has dogged the Conservatives since 2010, when the government announced it would purchase 65 fighter jets from American manufacturer Lockheed Martin in an untendered, sole-sourced contract. At the time, critics pounced on the Harper government for not looking to competitors’ models such as Boeing’s Super Hornet or the Eurofighter Typhoon."

Conservatives love them some planes dont they?

off topic

when usa invaded Iraq, their planes could not fly in the desert conditions. they had to hire amongst others Viktor Bout, Russian arms dealer who had a fleet of Soviet military planes flown by ex soviet military pilots, to resupply American troops.

at the time, Viktor was wanted on an interpol warrant. now in an american jail.

book about him is very interesting.

russians pilots and crew slept in hammocks slung from the plane. 

https://www.amazon.com/Merchant-Death-Money-Planes-Possible/dp/047026196X

 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Mark F

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

Wow, what a gem- love Katie Porter. Its amazing when you have a politician that knows what they are talking about and has the courage to hold these execs accountable.

 

 

[Tracker]

Atlanta columnist: Georgia Republicans are trying to make good on Donald Trump's demand to 'find' 11,000 votes
   
In the weeks after the 2020 election was called for President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump desperately sought to overturn the results, even asking Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to "find" him 11,870 votes prior to the Electoral College certification.
Republican election officials made it clear they were not willing to be part of Trump's attempted coup, but now that the election is over, an Atlanta Journal-Consitution op-ed is shedding light on how Trump's request underscores state lawmakers' latest efforts to shape future elections in their favor.
The author, Patricia Murphy, argues that Republican lawmakers could very well find Trump's 11,000 votes by "subtracting 11,000 Democrats." Murphy went on to discuss the political strategies Republican lawmakers are implementing to reach that goal as she highlighted the latest attack on voting in the state of Georgia: the newly-approved Senate Bill 241. A number of other proposed bills are also aimed at enforcing highly restrictive voting practices that threaten voting rights.

Murphy began by laying out the bill's attack on no-excuse absentee voting. The method was used by more than 1.3 million voters for the 2020 election, but Murphy says eliminating this particular measure could actually backfire on the Republican Party.

Atlanta columnist: Georgia Republicans are trying to make good on Donald Trump's demand to 'find' 11,000 votes - Alternet.org

 

Jimmy Carter Says He’s ‘Saddened And Angry’ Over Georgia GOP’s Efforts To Restrict Voting

ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter declared his opposition Tuesday to a slate of restrictive voting proposals moving through his native Georgia’s General Assembly, saying he is “disheartened, saddened and angry” over moves to “turn back the clock” on ballot access after Democratic successes in 2020.

Carter, a Democrat, said in a long statement that the Republican-backed proposals, which would end no-excuse absentee voting, “appear to be rooted in partisan interests, not the interests of all Georgia voters.”

The GOP push comes after Georgia favored President Joe Biden in November and elected two new U.S. senators in January, giving Democrats control of the U.S. Senate and cementing Georgia as a clear battleground.

Carter, 96, alluded to false assertions by former President Donald Trump, saying the proposed restrictions “are reactions to allegations of fraud for which no evidence was produced —allegations that were, in fact, refuted through various audits, recounts, and other measures.”

Georgia’s Republican legislative leaders insist their measures are necessary to restore public confidence in the election, a position Carter dismissed.

“As our state legislators seek to turn back the clock through legislation that will restrict access to voting for many Georgians, I am disheartened, saddened, and angry,” Carter wrote.

Jimmy Carter Says He's 'Saddened And Angry' Over Georgia GOP's Efforts To Restrict Voting | HuffPost

[Tracker]

GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert’s Anti-Pelosi Ad Ends With A Chilling Sound Effect
"What exactly are you implying with that?" one critic asked the Colorado Republican, in light of the deadly U.S. Capitol riot.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) faced backlash this week for releasing an ad attacking Democrats and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that ended with a gunshot sound.

In the spot, the QAnon-endorsing first-term lawmaker called on Pelosi to “tear down” the security fence that was put up around the U.S. Capitol following the Jan. 6 insurrection, when a violent mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters overran the Capitol building.

“It’s time to cut the crap and remember, this is the people’s house,” Boebert bombastically declared.

The video concluded with audio of a gunshot, followed by the sound of the weapon being reloaded and fired again.

GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert’s Anti-Pelosi Ad Ends With A Chilling Sound Effect | HuffPost Canada Politics (huffingtonpost.ca)

[JCon]

The GOP are terrorists. 

[HardCoreBlue]

1 hour ago, JCon said:

The GOP are terrorists. 

I would add one more thing to your sentence: ‘Prove me otherwise’. I would love to hear from posters who disagree with this statement.

[JCon]

6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I would add one more thing to your sentence: ‘Prove me otherwise’. I would love to hear from posters who disagree with this statement.

The white-hoods have mostly gone to their alt-right forums now. 

[Mark F]

2 hours ago, JCon said:

The GOP are terrorists. 

no question.

a serious threat to democracy.

 look at the level of support for them.

far greater threat than the islamic fundamentalist Jihadists.

Edited March 10, 2021 by Mark F

[blue_gold_84]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

The GOP are terrorists. 

They've literally become everything they claim to hate.

[17to85]

Well dirty brown hippy Jesus yes ignore him, but have you heard the gospel of supply side Jesus?

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

7 hours ago, Tracker said:

GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert’s Anti-Pelosi Ad Ends With A Chilling Sound Effect
"What exactly are you implying with that?" one critic asked the Colorado Republican, in light of the deadly U.S. Capitol riot.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) faced backlash this week for releasing an ad attacking Democrats and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that ended with a gunshot sound.

In the spot, the QAnon-endorsing first-term lawmaker called on Pelosi to “tear down” the security fence that was put up around the U.S. Capitol following the Jan. 6 insurrection, when a violent mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters overran the Capitol building.

“It’s time to cut the crap and remember, this is the people’s house,” Boebert bombastically declared.

The video concluded with audio of a gunshot, followed by the sound of the weapon being reloaded and fired again.

GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert’s Anti-Pelosi Ad Ends With A Chilling Sound Effect | HuffPost Canada Politics (huffingtonpost.ca)

 

SHe will be forever known as: Lauren Qbert.

 

 

 

 

 

If you fact check her... it gets pretty cringe and unbearable: