Fatty Liver Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Tracker said: Rogue Cops Stormed Uvalde Classroom After Child Called 911 to Say Teacher Was Alive -Getty The officers who eventually stormed a classroom at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, bringing the massacre to an end, did so after a student inside the room called 911 to say one of her two teachers had been shot but was still alive, The New York Times reports. Those officers went against the orders of school district police chief and onsite commander Pete Arredondo, and one could even hear a command in his earpiece not to breach as he moved towards the classroom. Arredondo arrived on the scene minutes after 18-year-old gunman Salvador Ramos but he had no police radio and decided almost immediately that it was no longer an active shooter situation. He used his cellphone to call a police landline to relay that and ask for backup. But students kept calling 911 for help, including 10-year-old Khloie Torres, who told a dispatcher at 12:10 p.m.—37 minutes after Ramos started shooting inside the school—that her teacher was “shot but still alive.” The room was not breached until 12:50 p.m. Many in the US are pouring out their anger on Uvalde police dept. demanding their pound of flesh, again just a distraction from the real issue at hand....but hey, got to blame someone. the watcher 1
Tracker Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 44 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Many in the US are pouring out their anger on Uvalde police dept. demanding their pound of flesh, again just a distraction from the real issue at hand....but hey, got to blame someone. The Uvalde police force are as much a symptom as culpable through ineptitude and cowardice. They tasered, cuffed and arrested parents trying to get to their kids, blocked state police from entering the school, lied about their own actions and inaction, tried to blame a female teacher and may have even shot one of the kids. The crisis was only ended when several of the Uvalde police disobeyed orders and entered the school, whereupon the shooter killed himself.
Fatty Liver Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tracker said: The Uvalde police force are as much a symptom as culpable through ineptitude and cowardice. They tasered, cuffed and arrested parents trying to get to their kids, blocked state police from entering the school, lied about their own actions and inaction, tried to blame a female teacher and may have even shot one of the kids. The crisis was only ended when several of the Uvalde police disobeyed orders and entered the school, whereupon the shooter killed himself. Don't be distracted, fingers are being pointed at the wrong people, they were put in a no-win situation and obviously failed, as would anyone in similar circumstances. Look to the top of the pyramid, not the bottom.
Tracker Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Don't be distracted, fingers are being pointed at the wrong people, they were put in a no-win situation and obviously failed, as would anyone in similar circumstances. Look to the top of the pyramid, not the bottom. Several members of my extended family are police (WPS and RCMP) and they were appalled by the actions and inactions of the officers on scene. There was obviously acute problems with the leadership but that does not excuse in any way the choices and cowardice of the officers. One child bled out while the police on site did nothing and actually blocked action. That they lied afterwards was butt-covering and fear of being prosecuted for dereliction of duty. Bigblue204 1
Mark F Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Re police in Canada..... a friend of mine, an upstanding businessman, lived just outside wpg. he was shot, in his own home, by an intruder who escaped. My friend survived, but, the police came, and did not go into his house, for I think he told me, an hour, as he lay there shot, until they got up the courage to enter the house. Happens everywhere.... just look at what happened in Nova Scotia. Gunman murdering people, police did nothing. and say they did nothing wrong. "HALIFAX - A senior Nova Scotia Mountie involved in the response to the worst mass shooting in modern Canadian history told an inquiry Tuesday that confusion was inevitable as the police force rapidly built a "beast" of an organization to stop an active shooter. The commission of inquiry is investigating how a man disguised as a Mountie and driving a replica RCMP cruiser managed to kill 22 people on April 18-19, 2020, before he was shot dead at a gas station by police 13 hours after his rampage began." ctv. Remarkable that this gets no attention outside the maritimes. @Fatty Liver there are fundamental gun issues in the states, but, there can be more than one thing to look At. The people on the force there are in the wrong job. If they are afraid to go into danger, to protect children from being shot, they should not be part of a police force. Edited June 4, 2022 by Mark F the watcher, Tracker and Bigblue204 3
HardCoreBlue Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 Merrick Garland choosing not to indict Mark Meadows is a joke. So now let’s go thru all indictments handed down to people with no political power or influence indicted on similar or less things and ask how is Justice blind again or how is no one is above the law again?
Mark F Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said: Merrick Garland choosing not to indict Mark Meadows is a joke. So now let’s go thru all indictments handed down to people with no political power or influence indicted on similar or less things and ask how is Justice blind again or how is no one is above the law again? Astounding. Edit just read a right wing plotter just murdered a judge ..... wisconsin, had a hit list. dont worry, everything fine. Edited June 4, 2022 by Mark F
Mark F Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) For anyone who thinks this Garland character will prosecute anyone of consequence there is this bit. "This week, Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice announced that it would continue defending Donald Trump in his ongoing attempts to dodge rape allegations by E. Jean Carroll. Carroll claims that Trump raped her in a department store in the mid-1990s. Trump claims that Carroll is “ugly” and “not [his] type.” Carroll sued Trump for defamation for these comments (Trump is also facing another defamation lawsuit from Summer Zervos, whom Trump also slandered after she accused him of sexual assault), but Bill Barr’s Justice Department sought to intervene on Trump’s behalf. Barr argued that Trump was a federal employee whose statements were part of his employment duties and who was thus entitled to protection under the Westfall Act, which grants civil immunity to federal employees for actions that are part of their jobs. Barr’s argument has already been rejected by a district court—again, because defaming alleged rape victims is not really a part of anybody’s “job.” But Garland’s DOJ decided to take up Barr’s position and continue appealing the case to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. It’s important to understand that the DOJ did not have to do this. There is no legal requirement that the current Justice Department has to continue to advance bad arguments made by the previous Justice Department. The DOJ is supposed to represent the people of the United States. There is no good argument for why our tax dollars are being used to argue that Trump is immune from a lawsuit related to a rape he allegedly perpetrated before taking office and the lies he may have told about that rape while in office. " This is now the third decision in which his DOJ has decided to support the bad arguments and unjust legal maneuvers enacted by Barr’s DOJ: It decided to defend Barr’s lies about the Mueller report; it asked a judge to throw out lawsuits against Trump and Barr for gassing peaceful protesters so Trump could take a photo with a Bible; " the nation. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-carroll-garland/ smells about right. All a game. Who knows what dirt Trump unearthed while President. Edited June 4, 2022 by Mark F
HardCoreBlue Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark F said: For anyone who thinks this Garland character will prosecute anyone of consequence there is this bit. "This week, Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice announced that it would continue defending Donald Trump in his ongoing attempts to dodge rape allegations by E. Jean Carroll. Carroll claims that Trump raped her in a department store in the mid-1990s. Trump claims that Carroll is “ugly” and “not [his] type.” Carroll sued Trump for defamation for these comments (Trump is also facing another defamation lawsuit from Summer Zervos, whom Trump also slandered after she accused him of sexual assault), but Bill Barr’s Justice Department sought to intervene on Trump’s behalf. Barr argued that Trump was a federal employee whose statements were part of his employment duties and who was thus entitled to protection under the Westfall Act, which grants civil immunity to federal employees for actions that are part of their jobs. Barr’s argument has already been rejected by a district court—again, because defaming alleged rape victims is not really a part of anybody’s “job.” But Garland’s DOJ decided to take up Barr’s position and continue appealing the case to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. It’s important to understand that the DOJ did not have to do this. There is no legal requirement that the current Justice Department has to continue to advance bad arguments made by the previous Justice Department. The DOJ is supposed to represent the people of the United States. There is no good argument for why our tax dollars are being used to argue that Trump is immune from a lawsuit related to a rape he allegedly perpetrated before taking office and the lies he may have told about that rape while in office. " This is now the third decision in which his DOJ has decided to support the bad arguments and unjust legal maneuvers enacted by Barr’s DOJ: It decided to defend Barr’s lies about the Mueller report; it asked a judge to throw out lawsuits against Trump and Barr for gassing peaceful protesters so Trump could take a photo with a Bible; " the nation. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-carroll-garland/ smells about right. All a game. Who knows what dirt Trump unearthed while President. Grotesque. MG portays himself as protecting the sanctity of the DOJ and what's it's role is, his naivety or whatever is happening here is maddening. Has he not been paying attention or is there something more going on here. Meanwhile once the Q's get in, the DOJ becomes the gestapo, new 'rules' folks. Mark F 1
bustamente Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 Imagine putting a former President and members of Congress on trial and possibly jail, what a laughing stocking the United States would be around the world and they get knocked off they high horse of credibility. Everyone knows what Trump and his enablers and cronies did during their 4 years in office and on 1/6 but the appetite to show the world what a corrupt, greedy and and frankly stupid bunch of politicians the States has is something they would rather not get into so as they say "ain't nothing gonna happen". Bigblue204 1
Tracker Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 MAGA Gun Church That Worships With AR-15s Has Bought a Giant Mountain Property in Tennessee Worshippers at World Peace and Unification Sanctuary hold weapons during their service February 28, 2018 in New Foundland, Pennsylvania. WORSHIPPERS AT WORLD PEACE AND UNIFICATION SANCTUARY HOLD WEAPONS DURING THEIR SERVICE FEBRUARY 28, 2018 IN NEW FOUNDLAND, PENNSYLVANIA. PHOTO BY DON EMMERT/AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES The MAGA-loving religious sect that worships with AR-15s has purchased a 130-acre property on a mountain in eastern Tennessee to serve as a “training center” and holy ground for its devoted, gun-toting followers, VICE News has learned. The latest property acquisition is more evidence that Pastor Hyung Jin “Sean” Moon, a fervent conspiracy theorist and son of an accused cult leader, is determined to expand his reach into the American Heartland. Moon’s congregation, Rod of Iron Ministries, also known as The World Peace and Unification Sanctuary, is a gun-centric spinoff of the much larger Unification Church, founded by his late father, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah and businessman whose followers were famously known as “Moonies.” The younger Moon, who also goes by “The Second King,” split from the main church amid a dramatic falling-out with his mother about who, between the two of them, was the rightful heir to his father’s empire. In 2017, Moon founded his church in Newfoundland, Pennsylvania, siphoning off hundreds of followers from the main congregation who were willing to make the seemingly radical leap of incorporating high-powered rifles into their spiritual life. He did this with the backing of his older brother, Kook-jin “Justin” Moon, the CEO of Kahr Arms, a gun manufacturing company headquartered nearby. In recent years, he’s made headlines for recreating the mass wedding ceremonies that his father’s church was famous for, with the addition of AR-15s. Sean and Justin Moon, plus other senior church officials, were also at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, and posted videos of themselves emerging from clouds of tear gas. Sean has also courted fringe MAGA-world figures; this weekend, the annual Rod of Iron Freedom Fest at the Kahr Arms headquarters in Greeley will include speakers such as former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, ex–NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch, far-right Proud Boy ally Joey Gibson, and GOP congressional candidate Teddy Daniels.
Tracker Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 Damning text messages reveal plot to give pro-Trump supporters access to Georgia's voting machines: report According to a report from the Daily Beast's Jose Pagliery, texts obtained by the website between a former Georgia Republican county chair and an election board member revealed they were plotting to allow pro-Donald Trump outsiders access to the county's election computers. As the report reveals, those text messages were flying back and forth on Jan 6th as the Capitol in Washington D.C. was under siege to stop the certification of the 2020 presidential election that saw Trump lose re-election. As Pagliery notes, the Washington Post has reported that "the Secretary of State’s office was investigating the matter. But the previously unreported text messages shed new light on who arranged the possibly illegal access to the computer and who was on the team that traveled south to do it." According to the new Beast report, "The text messages acquired by The Daily Beast show two separate conversations in which former Coffee County GOP chair Cathy Latham and elections board member Eric Chaney lay out a plan to bring in a team of computer experts to access the computer voting system. The Daily Beast has verified that the conversations were real and remain stored on an iPhone." "At 4:26 p.m. on Jan. 6, 2021, as the Capitol building in Washington was under attack, another plan was in the works 607 miles away in the small town of Douglas, Georgia," Pagliery wrote. "Chaney, the elections board member, received word that the county GOP chair was on the phone with an Atlanta businessman who wanted access to the voting system computers there." https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/trump/ Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation. The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
Mark F Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tracker said: @Tracker "Justices Rule Police" 2005, guess that's the law, although the current ussc freaks just make their own law regardless. scalia was out there.... I read a death sentence appeal where he actually wrote that if the accused was innocent, that was irrelevant. by my standards, guy was not qualified for small claims court. "I rule 1. You do not owe the plaintiff five hundred dollars as claimed. 2. I therefore order you to pay the plaintiff five hundred dollars. 3. I sentence you to 11 years imprisonment with no parole, and, death by firing squad! next case! " Scalia went for lunch with dyck Cheney , a week or so before he presided over an appeal brought by...dyck Cheney. 😂 Edited June 5, 2022 by Mark F Tracker 1
Tracker Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 Trump-Endorsed Senate Candidate Blames Gun Violence on ‘Black People, Frankly’ Blake Masters, whom former President Donald Trump recently endorsed for Senate in Arizona, said during a podcast appearance earlier this year that “Black people, frankly” are responsible for America’s gun violence problem. “We do have a gun violence problem in this country, and it’s gang violence,” Masters said on the “Jeff Oravits Show” on April 11, the Daily Beast reported on Sunday. “It’s people in Chicago, St. Louis shooting each other. Very often, you know, Black people, frankly. And the Democrats don’t want to do anything about that.” Masters — who has peddled the great replacement theory and falsely insisted that Trump won the 2020 election — went on to say that Democrats “don’t like the Second Amendment” because “it frankly blocks a lot of their plans for us.” Masters has leaned on racism, conspiracy theories, and guns throughout this campaign. Guns in particular have been featured prominently is his campaign videos. “The Second Amendment is not about duck hunting,” he said in one of them, adding that “the first thing the Taliban did when Joe Biden handed them Afghanistan” was “[take] away people’s guns.” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/blake-masters-gun-violence-black-people-1363376/
the watcher Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 I was listening to the podcast while I was working. It can be hard to listen to at times but he's bang on. He's a voice in the wilderness down there. I just can't see it changing. My son in- law is American ( he lives here ) . His parents were retired to Arizona but have packed up and moved to Mexico. They can see what's happening. I imagine they aren't alone. JCon 1
Mark F Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 Some good news from Joe Biden https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/06/pushed-progressives-biden-invokes-defense-production-act-boost-renewable-energy
Tracker Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 On 2022-06-05 at 11:28 AM, Mark F said: @Tracker "Justices Rule Police" 2005, guess that's the law, although the current ussc freaks just make their own law regardless. scalia was out there.... I read a death sentence appeal where he actually wrote that if the accused was innocent, that was irrelevant. by my standards, guy was not qualified for small claims court. "I rule 1. You do not owe the plaintiff five hundred dollars as claimed. 2. I therefore order you to pay the plaintiff five hundred dollars. 3. I sentence you to 11 years imprisonment with no parole, and, death by firing squad! next case! " Scalia went for lunch with dyck Cheney , a week or so before he presided over an appeal brought by...dyck Cheney. 😂 Soooo....two dicks went to lunch together. Mark F 1
Tracker Posted June 6, 2022 Report Posted June 6, 2022 Proud Boys Leaders Indicted On Seditious Conspiracy Charges Over Capitol Attack Five members of the Proud Boys street gang — including their leader, Enrique Tarrio — were indicted Monday on seditious conspiracy charges for their role in the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., returned the rare indictment, which charges that Tarrio and four other members of the Proud Boys — Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl and Dominic Pezzola — played an outsize role in the planning and execution of the insurrection. A sixth Proud Boy, Charles Donohoe, wasn’t included because he’d already pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in a plea deal that will force him to testify against his fellow gang members. Dozens of Proud Boys were among the thousands of people who stormed the U.S. Capitol that day in an effort to stop the certification of Joe Biden as president. Prosecutors say that Tarrio and his fellow defendants were instrumental in the planning stages of the attack; Tarrio allegedly looked over a document titled “1776 Returns” on Dec. 30, 2020, detailing plans to occupy several buildings in Washington on Jan. 6, including six House and Senate office buildings. Tarrio didn’t join his gang on the day of the insurrection — he was under court order to stay away from D.C. following his arrest over other crimes he committed with the Proud Boys in December — but the other members led the charge. They stood at the front of a massive throng that marched to the Capitol following a speech by defeated President Donald Trump, joined by members of the Oath Keepers, a self-described “militia” that often shows up to Proud Boys events, whose leaders are also facing seditious conspiracy charges. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-leaders-indicted-seditious-conspiracy-charges-capitol-riot_n_629e5618e4b0c184bdd3f0ed
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Federal judge blocks the use of newly drawn congressional maps in Louisiana that include only one mostly Black district; orders the Legislature to come up with a remedial plan by June 20. https://nbcnews.to/3MnaODG Mark F and blue_gold_84 2
Tracker Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Probe Reveals Mysterious ‘Third Party’ Breached Michigan Voting Systems Amid Trumpworld’s Voter Fraud Frenzy -Getty Election officials in Michigan have reportedly told investigators about an unauthorized “third-party” accessing voting equipment amid Trumpworld’s push to expose what it claimed was voter fraud in the wake of his 2020 defeat. Citing newly obtained records, Reuters reports that state police have expanded their investigation into voting system breaches, with search warrants and memos revealing an additional three towns and one county under scrutiny. Investigators are said to be looking into a potential breach in Lake Township, and equipment in Irving Township was also reportedly seized for examination. In Roscommon County, two officials told investigators they handed over equipment to unauthorized people, the records show. In one case, a town’s two ballot tabulators were given to unidentified people for several weeks. State authorities announced a criminal investigation into the statewide breaches in early February, with at least 11 such incidents reported across the state. Although Trump won all the counties where the breaches are said to have occurred, his allies have argued that he should have won by a larger margin.
Tracker Posted June 7, 2022 Report Posted June 7, 2022 Teacher Wounded In Texas School Shooting Slams Police As 'Cowards' “You have a bulletproof vest, I had nothing. You’re supposed to protect and serve," said Uvalde teacher Arnulfo Reyes, whose 11 students all died. A teacher wounded in last month’s school shooting in Texas slammed first responders as “cowards” for standing by outside his classroom while the gunman killed all 11 of his young students as they tried to play dead. “You have a bulletproof vest, I had nothing. You’re supposed to protect and serve. There is no excuse for their actions and I will never forgive them. I will never forgive them,” Arnulfo Reyes said in an interview with “Good Morning America” Tuesday from a hospital, where he’s recovering from multiple gunshot wounds. The Robb Elementary School teacher said his class was watching a movie following a student awards ceremony around 11:30 a.m. on May 24 when they heard gunshots. He directed the kids to get under a table, just as they were trained, and told them to “act like you’re asleep.” bustamente 1
bustamente Posted June 9, 2022 Report Posted June 9, 2022 Lying, deflection, corruption, it's the Republican way JCon 1
Mark F Posted June 9, 2022 Report Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Extreme trump american Supreme court decision . Slate. "The most immediate consequence of Egbert is dire: Some 20,000 Border Patrol agents have effectively been freed from the requirements of the Fourth Amendment and can violate the Constitution without fear of a lawsuit. They operate not just at the border but also within 100 miles of it, where two-thirds of Americans live. U.S. citizens will no doubt suffer from Wednesday’s decisions, but immigrants will bear the brunt of it; they already face routine abuseat the hands of these agents. Many of these victims may come into the country seeking the protection of the nation’s vaunted Bill of Rights. They will quickly learn that rights are only as good as the judges who enforce them." makes crossing the border to the usa dicey. We have no rights. Edited June 9, 2022 by Mark F Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
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