Tracker Posted August 22, 2022 Report Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, the watcher said: “Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values and indoctrinate our children," Trump said. " ... Their goal is not a better America. Their goal is to end America." Or as I like to call it " telling the truth " about their history. The GOP, federally and state are mounting a vigorous, and mostly successful campaign to ban any and all books that describe American slavery and the civil war in negative terms. the watcher 1
Mark H. Posted August 22, 2022 Report Posted August 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Mark F said: I guess you are unaware of Trump's record on covid. I'm aware. But nothing has really changed. 2021 also saw spikes in cases and deaths.
TrueBlue4ever Posted August 22, 2022 Report Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Oh Lord, please let this be true. Digging a bit deeper it appears not to be. His name was supposedly there as a placeholder until counsel was on board. Well, it was fun to dream for about a minute there. Edited August 22, 2022 by TrueBlue4ever
bustamente Posted August 22, 2022 Report Posted August 22, 2022 Well some one told Trump that he has a real good grasp of lawyering, he has heard that some think he should of become a lawyer because he is so smart as some have said he is a genius.
WildPath Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Mark H. said: Yes. Both Trump and Biden handed out stimulus cheques to pretty much everyone, whether they needed them or not. I wasn't talking about economic stimulus funds. I'm talking about costs to healthcare and economy from people getting sick, needing treatment, missing work, etc.
Mark H. Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 3 hours ago, WildPath said: I wasn't talking about economic stimulus funds. I'm talking about costs to healthcare and economy from people getting sick, needing treatment, missing work, etc. That's absolutely legit. When it comes to covid response in any country, it all depends what you choose focus on. The USA covered most covid treatment costs of uninsured individuals. This was started in 2020 and was only discontinued in the spring of 2022.
Tracker Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 'Self-inflicted wound': Experts stunned After Trump’s late-night release of incredibly incriminating NARA document Former President Donald Trump reportedly released a new document very late Monday night that legal experts believe is incredibly damning. Far-right writer John Solomon, who is one of Donald Trump’s official representatives for the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), released a May 10 letter on his JustTheNews.com website. Solomon released a letter from NARA to Trump’s lawyers. “As you are no doubt aware, NARA had ongoing communications with the former President’s representatives throughout 2021 about what appeared to be missing Presidential records, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes of records to NARA in January 2022,” the letter read. “In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials. NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery, which prompted the Department to ask the President to request that NARA provide the FBI with access to the boxes at issue so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them.” “Yikes,” tweeted Tufts Prof. Daniel Drezner. Washington Post reporter Olivier Knox said, “this is incredible.” Attorney Bradley Moss wondered, “Does [John Solomon] realize how bad that letter is for Trump? Trump not only had classified records at Mar-a-Lago, not only had TS/SCI classified records, he had Special Access Program classified information, Those are our most sensitive secrets. They were sitting in a damn basement.” Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti said, “The letter also confirms that Trump was on notice that the documents he possessed were federal government property and that he needed to return them to the government’s possession. Very uphill battle for Trump’s team. https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/nara-trump/
HardCoreBlue Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tracker said: 'Self-inflicted wound': Experts stunned After Trump’s late-night release of incredibly incriminating NARA document Former President Donald Trump reportedly released a new document very late Monday night that legal experts believe is incredibly damning. Far-right writer John Solomon, who is one of Donald Trump’s official representatives for the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), released a May 10 letter on his JustTheNews.com website. Solomon released a letter from NARA to Trump’s lawyers. “As you are no doubt aware, NARA had ongoing communications with the former President’s representatives throughout 2021 about what appeared to be missing Presidential records, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes of records to NARA in January 2022,” the letter read. “In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials. NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery, which prompted the Department to ask the President to request that NARA provide the FBI with access to the boxes at issue so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them.” “Yikes,” tweeted Tufts Prof. Daniel Drezner. Washington Post reporter Olivier Knox said, “this is incredible.” Attorney Bradley Moss wondered, “Does [John Solomon] realize how bad that letter is for Trump? Trump not only had classified records at Mar-a-Lago, not only had TS/SCI classified records, he had Special Access Program classified information, Those are our most sensitive secrets. They were sitting in a damn basement.” Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti said, “The letter also confirms that Trump was on notice that the documents he possessed were federal government property and that he needed to return them to the government’s possession. Very uphill battle for Trump’s team. https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/nara-trump/ Based on the history of Trump since he took office, all of these reports of Trump being bad is all white noise at this stage. I'm not even sure he'd go down if was caught in the act by video with independent witnesses to corroborate. The Justice System is not a System, it's just a bunch of moving parts often going in different directions. , Tracker, Mark F and the watcher 3
the watcher Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, Tracker said: Such a disgusting comment. Like many far right Christians he is pulling statements out of the old testament and new testament when it suits him. If you follow the old testament word for word you would have to totally ignore the New Testament. Nevermind all the books and passages that have been dropped. A great exercise for most of them would to be to spend some time reading both testaments , beginning to end. Then try work out an idea of what being a Christian really means. Edited August 23, 2022 by the watcher WildPath and Mark F 2
Mark F Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, the watcher said: he is pulling statements out of the old testament and new testament when it suits him. yeah, pick and choose the parts you agree with 😂. a religious smorgasbord. Which is why sadists love the old testament. beating, killing for adultery, smiting and smoting, its got lots of the good stuff for them sadist types. old testament lord is pretty tough. drowned everybody except Noah. harsh! Im with @HardCoreBlue I was briefly excited after TheRaidAt Mar a Lago (coming soon with tom cruise as garland) but not expecting anything at all, maybe a stupid lawyer or two sacrificed for show. most painfully slow investigation in history. just looked up nuremburg trials. germany surrendered may,8 1945,: trial opened November, 1945. trump will walk, looks like. Edited August 23, 2022 by Mark F HardCoreBlue 1
Tracker Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, the watcher said: Such a disgusting comment. Like many far right Christians he is pulling statements out of the old testament and new testament when it suits him. If you follow the old testament word for word you would have to totally ignore the New Testament. Nevermind all the books and passages that have been dropped. A great exercise for most of them would to be to spend some time reading both testaments , beginning to end. Then try work out an idea of what being a Christian really means. That same section of the Bible sanctions death for anyone who wears two different fabrics (ie: wool plus cotton) at the same time, as well as death for anyone who plants two different crops in the same field, allows fathers to sell their daughters and own slaves. But these "Christians" do not want to talk about this. And men cannot sleep in the same bed as women who are having their periods or touch any woman who is not one of their wives (and polygamy is OK but not polyandry). Mark F 1
Mark F Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tracker said: That same section of the Bible sanctions death for anyone who wears two different fabrics (ie: wool plus cotton) at the same time, as well as death for anyone who plants two different crops in the same field, allows fathers to sell their daughters and own slaves. But these "Christians" do not want to talk about this. And men cannot sleep in the same bed as women who are having their periods or touch any woman who is not one of their wives (and polygamy is OK but not polyandry). how bout slaves? think its a yes, for old testament. oh you got that. whoops. Edited August 23, 2022 by Mark F
Tracker Posted August 23, 2022 Report Posted August 23, 2022 2 Men Guilty Of Conspiring To Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The jury also found Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. guilty of conspiring to obtain a weapon of mass destruction. GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, in a plot prosecutors described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists. The jury also found Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. guilty of conspiring to obtain a weapon of mass destruction, namely a bomb to blow up a bridge and stymie police if the kidnapping could be pulled off at Whitmer’s vacation home. Croft, 46, a trucker from Bear, Delaware, was also convicted of another explosives charge. It was the second trial for the pair after a jury in April couldn’t reach a unanimous verdict. Two other men were acquitted and two more pleaded guilty and testified for prosecutors. The result was a victory for the government following the shocking mixed outcome last spring. “You can’t just strap on an AR-15 and body armor and go ****** the governor,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler told jurors. “But that wasn’t the defendants’ ultimate goal, they wanted to set off a second American civil war, a second American Revolution, something that they call the boogaloo. And they wanted to do it for a long time before they settled on Gov. Whitmer.” blue_gold_84 1
bustamente Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 300 classified documents some top secret that any one at Mar A Crapo could read supposedly and yet Trump still has not answered for it. Tracker 1
Tracker Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 There seems to be no bottom to which Faux News will stoop to in lies:
FrostyWinnipeg Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 On 2022-08-22 at 9:02 PM, bustamente said: He was a WAPO reporter. You expected him to care?
Tracker Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 Tucker Carlson’s Hateful Conspiracy: Chemicals in Milk Turn Kids Trans Conspiracy theorists have become an essential and accepted component of the MAGA party/religion for some time now. As much damage as it’s done to our body politic, it gets even more dangerous when it is directed with hatred at specific marginalized groups of people, as Tucker Carlson did in claiming that chemicals in milk “turn kids trans.” The loving and respectful response is, “So? What’s the problem?” If chemicals in milk are unhealthy, then we should evaluate the benefit versus harm but not consider “turning kids trans” as an inherently bad outcome akin to cancer or skin lesions. Caution is warranted only because trans teens are the demographic segment most likely – by far – to commit suicide. It is not the resulting “trans” identity that is the problem. It is how society, like Tucker Carlson, who implies this is terrible, that is a real problem. https://www.politicususa.com/2022/08/23/tucker-carlson-milk-trans.html
HardCoreBlue Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Tucker Carlson’s Hateful Conspiracy: Chemicals in Milk Turn Kids Trans Conspiracy theorists have become an essential and accepted component of the MAGA party/religion for some time now. As much damage as it’s done to our body politic, it gets even more dangerous when it is directed with hatred at specific marginalized groups of people, as Tucker Carlson did in claiming that chemicals in milk “turn kids trans.” The loving and respectful response is, “So? What’s the problem?” If chemicals in milk are unhealthy, then we should evaluate the benefit versus harm but not consider “turning kids trans” as an inherently bad outcome akin to cancer or skin lesions. Caution is warranted only because trans teens are the demographic segment most likely – by far – to commit suicide. It is not the resulting “trans” identity that is the problem. It is how society, like Tucker Carlson, who implies this is terrible, that is a real problem. https://www.politicususa.com/2022/08/23/tucker-carlson-milk-trans.html The Legal System has allowed Fox to spew things like this on a regular basis because it's entertainment and not to be believed. What a joke. I know I must be tiring some with my disdain for the Legal system but it's so infuriating to me because the Justice System has been set-up to ultimately keep us in tact, hold us accountable for our behaviours and words and it's failing us horribly everywhere. They just seem to keep getting a free pass on what needs to change. Tracker 1
Tracker Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 "This order is hilarious": Trump-appointed judge sends back his DOJ suit because it makes no sense Former President Trump and his legal team have filed a motion asking a federal judge to pause the FBI's review of alleged classified documents taken from his Mar-a-Lago resort so a neutral special master can be appointed to inspect them. The motion was included in a federal lawsuit filed by Trump targeting the FBI's justification for the Aug. 8 raid. According to reports, Trump had more than 300 classified documents at his Palm Beach resort that he allegedly took from the White House at the end of his tenure. But in a new development this Tuesday, the judge overseeing the case gave Trump and his legal team until Friday to give more specifics as to why they think their motion should be granted. "Judge Aileen Cannon seems skeptical about Trump's lawsuit over the search of Mar-a-Lago, including what exactly he is trying to do and why he filed a separate case instead of just asking Judge Bruce Reinhart to address his grievances in the existing matter," explained New York Times reporter Charlie Savage. "The judge assigned to Trump's civil complaint is basically telling them they need to do better," tweeted Reuters reporter and legal expert Sarah Lynch. As CBS News' Steven Portnoy pointed out, the judge wants Trump's legal team to provide "the asserted basis for the exercise of this Court's jurisdiction," "the precise relief sought, including any request for injunctive relief," and the "the effect, if any, of the proceeding before" Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart. "This order is hilarious," added David French of The Dispatch. "Any decent litigator would read it and shudder--basically the judge is saying to Trump's team, 'Do your job.'" "Translation: Trump's motion is a mess and the judge needs them to spell out exactly what they're asking for and why they think they're entitled to that relief," tweeted Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/24/this-order-is-hilarious-appointed-sends-back-his-doj-suit-because-it-makes-no-sense_partner/
Wideleft Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 Terrifying. How a Secretive Billionaire Handed His Fortune to the Architect of the Right-Wing Takeover of the Courts In the largest known political advocacy donation in U.S. history, industrialist Barre Seid funded a new group run by Federalist Society co-chair Leonard Leo, who guided Trump’s Supreme Court picks and helped end federal abortion rights. ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. This story was co-published with The Lever. An elderly, ultra-secretive Chicago businessman has given the largest known donation to a political advocacy group in U.S. history — worth $1.6 billion — and the recipient is one of the prime architects of conservatives’ efforts to reshape the American judicial system, including the Supreme Court. Through a series of opaque transactions over the past two years, Barre Seid, a 90-year-old manufacturing magnate, gave the massive sum to a nonprofit run by Leonard Leo, who co-chairs the conservative legal group the Federalist Society. The donation was first reported by The New York Times on Monday. The Lever and ProPublica confirmed the information from documents received independently by the news organizations. Our reporting sheds additional light on how the two men, one a judicial kingmaker and the other a mysterious but prolific donor to conservative causes, came together to create a political war chest that will likely supercharge efforts to further shift American politics to the right. (long read) https://www.propublica.org/article/dark-money-leonard-leo-barre-seid Mark F 1
HardCoreBlue Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 From the Washington Examiner, Florida's Democratic nominee that's running against wingnut incumbent: "Those who support the governor should stay with him and vote for him. I don't want your vote. If you have that hate in your heart — keep it. I want the vote of the people of Florida who care about our state. Good Democrats, good independents, good Republicans — unify with this ticket," he declared during a press gaggle Wednesday". I don't know who this Charlie Crist is and if he's just as crazy as RD, but well said, bravo. WildPath 1
Wideleft Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: From the Washington Examiner, Florida's Democratic nominee that's running against wingnut incumbent: "Those who support the governor should stay with him and vote for him. I don't want your vote. If you have that hate in your heart — keep it. I want the vote of the people of Florida who care about our state. Good Democrats, good independents, good Republicans — unify with this ticket," he declared during a press gaggle Wednesday". I don't know who this Charlie Crist is and if he's just as crazy as RD, but well said, bravo. Crist is a former Republican Governor of Florida (2007-2011). He switched to the Dems in 2012. HardCoreBlue 1
Goalie Posted August 24, 2022 Report Posted August 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Tracker said: Tucker Carlson’s Hateful Conspiracy: Chemicals in Milk Turn Kids Trans Conspiracy theorists have become an essential and accepted component of the MAGA party/religion for some time now. As much damage as it’s done to our body politic, it gets even more dangerous when it is directed with hatred at specific marginalized groups of people, as Tucker Carlson did in claiming that chemicals in milk “turn kids trans.” The loving and respectful response is, “So? What’s the problem?” If chemicals in milk are unhealthy, then we should evaluate the benefit versus harm but not consider “turning kids trans” as an inherently bad outcome akin to cancer or skin lesions. Caution is warranted only because trans teens are the demographic segment most likely – by far – to commit suicide. It is not the resulting “trans” identity that is the problem. It is how society, like Tucker Carlson, who implies this is terrible, that is a real problem. https://www.politicususa.com/2022/08/23/tucker-carlson-milk-trans.html Every Cow Matters
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