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[Tracker]

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I assume no appeal on this bogus ruling?

Quien sabe?

[iHeart]

well at least something good happened today

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/politics/steve-bannon-not-guilty-plea-surrender-border-wall-charges/index.html

[do or die]

3 hours ago, iHeart said:

well at least something good happened today

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/politics/steve-bannon-not-guilty-plea-surrender-border-wall-charges/index.html

This time - no Trump to bail him out

[bustamente]

 

If your going to rip off conservatives might as well keep telling them that you love them and will fight for them so you can plan your next grift.

[bustamente]

 

[Tracker]

48 minutes ago, bustamente said:

 

If your going to rip off conservatives might as well keep telling them that you love them and will fight for them so you can plan your next grift.

And Bannon with all his bluster and bullpoop meekly surrendered to New York police today.

14 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Donald Trump Threatens To Sue Fox News Over Ad That Calls His Fans 'Suckers'

Donald Trump threatened Fox News on Thursday and it wasn’t with a good time.  The former president announced on his reportedly financially-challenged Truth Social platform that he is considering suing the news network for false advertising after it broadcast an insulting, humiliating ad from the Lincoln Project.

The ad in question is titled “SUCKER,” and basically explains to MAGA Republicans why they are suckers for believing basically anything Trump told them:
“Dear MAGA, we have some bad news. No, not that he lost. Not that your little coup attempt failed and its planners and the attackers are going to jail. No. The really bad news is why Trump told you he lost. Why he set it up way before the 2020 election. It wasn’t voter fraud but it was fraud.

“Trump told you the election was stolen ripped you off, to sucker you, to take your hard-earned money and shovel it into his pockets. He spent it on himself not to take back the White House.

“It was the biggest scam in political history. Every dollar you sent him paid to keep his shady business empire and lavish lifestyle going. It was a sucker game all along. And you know who the sucker is? You.”

 

 

[bustamente]

It's unbelievable that the race between him and Warnock is so close, the guy is as dumb as a brick

 

[Tracker]

Just now, bustamente said:

It's unbelievable that the race between him and Warnock is so close, the guy is as dumb as a brick

 

Obviously a perfect Trump acolyte.  His mother must be so proud of him 

[Tracker]

20 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I assume no appeal on this bogus ruling?

Justice Department leans in on Trump's special master request for document

The United States Department of Justice on Thursday filed a response to Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen Cannon's Monday ruling that granted former President Donald Trump's request for a special master to determine whether the trove of classified documents that were seized during the Federal Bureau of Investigation's search warrant execution at Trump's unsecured Mar-a-Lago estate on August 8th are covered by executive privilege, which Trump has claimed in his lawsuit against the FBI.

Cannon, whom Trump appointed, additionally required the Justice Department to pause its probe into how and why Trump had a foreign country's above-top-secret nuclear capabilities hoarded in his beach house.

The Justice Department asked Cannon "to stay the part of her order that halted the investigation and would require showing classified docs to special master, and says will appeal if she doesn't do that," New York Times national security and legal reporter Charlie Savage tweeted along with a copy of the motion. DOJ is "willing to let a master be appointed and see the unclassified docs," Savage explained.

The Justice Department in its answer unambiguously emphasized the stakes surrounding what is contained within the materials that were in Trump's possession.

"The government and the public would suffer irreparable harm absent a stay. This Court correctly recognized the government's vital interest in conducting a national security risk assessment of the possible unauthorized disclosure of the classified records and any harm that may have resulted," it wrote.

"But the review and assessment on their own are not sufficient to address and fully mitigate any national security risks presented. The Intelligence Community's review and assessment cannot be readily segregated from the Department of Justice's ('DOJ') and Federal Bureau of Investigation's ('FBI') activities in connection with the ongoing criminal investigation, and uncertainty regarding the bounds of the Court's order and its implications for the activities of the FBI has caused the Intelligence Community, in consultation with DOJ, to pause temporarily this critically important work. Moreover," DOJ continued, "the government and the public are irreparably injured when a criminal investigation of matters involving risks to national security is enjoined."

The Justice Department stated that Trump "has not shown that he had standing to seek relief, or that this Court properly exercised its equitable jurisdiction, with regard to the classified records. The classified records are government property over which the Executive Branch has control and in which Plaintiff has no cognizable property interest."

It noted that "accordingly, even if (as the Court stated) Plaintiff has made 'a colorable showing of a right to possess at least some of the seized property' sufficient to establish his standing to request that a special master review records that might potentially belong to him, D.E. 64 at 13, he categorically cannot make that showing with respect to documents marked as classified."

The Justice Department stressed that "the seized classified records at issue here — each of which the subpoena plainly encompassed — are central" to its "ongoing criminal investigation" into Trump.

It also told Cannon that the declassification power "falls upon the incumbent President, not on any former President, because it is the incumbent President who bears the responsibility to protect and defend the national security of the United States."

The Justice Department's final argument was that "Trump himself declined to assert any claim of executive privilege over the classified records at the point when it would have been appropriate to do so."

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/08/justice-department-leans-in-on-special-master-request-for-documents_partner/

Edited September 8, 2022 by Tracker

[17to85]

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

Justice Department leans in on Trump's special master request for document

The United States Department of Justice on Thursday filed a response to Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen Cannon's Monday ruling that granted former President Donald Trump's request for a special master to determine whether the trove of classified documents that were seized during the Federal Bureau of Investigation's search warrant execution at Trump's unsecured Mar-a-Lago estate on August 8th are covered by executive privilege, which Trump has claimed in his lawsuit against the FBI.

Cannon, whom Trump appointed, additionally required the Justice Department to pause its probe into how and why Trump had a foreign country's above-top-secret nuclear capabilities hoarded in his beach house.

The Justice Department asked Cannon "to stay the part of her order that halted the investigation and would require showing classified docs to special master, and says will appeal if she doesn't do that," New York Times national security and legal reporter Charlie Savage tweeted along with a copy of the motion. DOJ is "willing to let a master be appointed and see the unclassified docs," Savage explained.

The Justice Department in its answer unambiguously emphasized the stakes surrounding what is contained within the materials that were in Trump's possession.

"The government and the public would suffer irreparable harm absent a stay. This Court correctly recognized the government's vital interest in conducting a national security risk assessment of the possible unauthorized disclosure of the classified records and any harm that may have resulted," it wrote.

"But the review and assessment on their own are not sufficient to address and fully mitigate any national security risks presented. The Intelligence Community's review and assessment cannot be readily segregated from the Department of Justice's ('DOJ') and Federal Bureau of Investigation's ('FBI') activities in connection with the ongoing criminal investigation, and uncertainty regarding the bounds of the Court's order and its implications for the activities of the FBI has caused the Intelligence Community, in consultation with DOJ, to pause temporarily this critically important work. Moreover," DOJ continued, "the government and the public are irreparably injured when a criminal investigation of matters involving risks to national security is enjoined."

The Justice Department stated that Trump "has not shown that he had standing to seek relief, or that this Court properly exercised its equitable jurisdiction, with regard to the classified records. The classified records are government property over which the Executive Branch has control and in which Plaintiff has no cognizable property interest."

It noted that "accordingly, even if (as the Court stated) Plaintiff has made 'a colorable showing of a right to possess at least some of the seized property' sufficient to establish his standing to request that a special master review records that might potentially belong to him, D.E. 64 at 13, he categorically cannot make that showing with respect to documents marked as classified."

The Justice Department stressed that "the seized classified records at issue here — each of which the subpoena plainly encompassed — are central" to its "ongoing criminal investigation" into Trump.

It also told Cannon that the declassification power "falls upon the incumbent President, not on any former President, because it is the incumbent President who bears the responsibility to protect and defend the national security of the United States."

The Justice Department's final argument was that "Trump himself declined to assert any claim of executive privilege over the classified records at the point when it would have been appropriate to do so."

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/08/justice-department-leans-in-on-special-master-request-for-documents_partner/

Translation of the legalese...

[HardCoreBlue]

12 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Translation of the legalese...

I’m just hoping the DOJ isn’t your guy in the blue here.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/washington-mayor-declares-public-emergency-over-migrant-arrivals-texas-arizona-2022-09-08/

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WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser on Thursday declared a public emergency over buses of migrants sent by Republican governors from the U.S.-Mexico border states of Texas and Arizona.

Bowser, a Democrat, issued an order to support arriving migrants by creating a new Office of Migrant Services and will devote $10 million to launch the office. The city will seek reimbursement from the federal government, Bowser said.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has sent more than 7,900 migrants to Washington, D.C., since April in an effort to push responsibility for border crossers to Democrats, including U.S. President Joe Biden. Arizona has sent about 1,700.

Texas also has sent more than 2,200 migrants to New York City and 300 to Chicago, although some get off the buses in other U.S. states before reaching the cities.

Bowser's office called the busing a "political stunt," a sentiment echoed by the White House and Democratic mayors of New York City and Chicago.

 

[HardCoreBlue]

54 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/washington-mayor-declares-public-emergency-over-migrant-arrivals-texas-arizona-2022-09-08/

 

What a great way of telling the world you could give a flying F about Human Beings if they don't think, act, look and feel like you.

[Mark F]

Trump post election grift is before a grand jury, whatever that means.

 

who knows, maybe some charges will come out of left field, and finally bring the rancid rotting carcass down.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Mark F

[bustamente]

5 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Trump post election grift is before a grand jury, whatever that means.

 

who knows, maybe some charges will come out of left field, and finally bring the rancid rotting carcass down.

He got the idiots to give him 250m or so to put into stopping the steal, challenge the election and instead put it into his pocket.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

He got the idiots to give him 250m or so to put into stopping the steal, challenge the election and instead put it into his pocket.

So far, Trump is the subject of three separate investigations- two federal and one state (Georgia) and there is a good chance there will be others, If/when Trump fails to win the GOP nomination, he will also lose the potential ability to pardon his henchmen, and that will set the cat among the pigeons. Bannon's fate should be a pretty good indicator of what is to come.

[TrueBlue4ever]

4 hours ago, Mark F said:

Trump post election grift is before a grand jury, whatever that means.

 

who knows, maybe some charges will come out of left field, and finally bring the rancid rotting carcass down.

A grand jury is the US equivalent of a preliminary inquiry, where a group of civilians reviews evidence to determine if there is probable cause to believe a crime has been committed and have a defendant go to trial. 

[Tracker]

                                              

[bustamente]

Speaking of healthcare maybe the government of the day could get off their asses get some competent people to fix the wait times in all our hospitals cause what's going on now is embarrassing. In a country like Canada nobody should have to wait 10 hours to seek emergency care.

[Mark F]

 

lol "special master" b.s. 

nobody (except trump) is above the law.

 

"Larry Pfeiffer, a 32-year U.S. intelligence official who was the senior director of the White House Situation Room and chief of staff to then-CIA Director Michael Hayden, said he was “horrified” by the FBI photo of classified documents recovered from Trump's office in Mar-a-Lago.

“If that was me, I wouldn't have the luxury of sitting at a golf resort somewhere talking to lawyers, having lawyers file motions. I'd be doing all that from a jail cell somewhere,” Pfeiffer said. “And it wouldn't have been two years after I left office or retired; it would have been almost from the moment they discovered that maybe I still had some documents sitting around in my basement."

American  legal system has double, triple quadruple standards. you would need the James Webb telescope to detect signs of garland willingness to charge trump.

lol at Americans praising that hack garland for his slow, thorough approach.😂

Edited September 10, 2022 by Mark F

[JCon]

10 hours ago, bustamente said:

Speaking of healthcare maybe the government of the day could get off their asses get some competent people to fix the wait times in all our hospitals cause what's going on now is embarrassing. In a country like Canada nobody should have to wait 10 hours to seek emergency care.

They don't want to fix it, they want to privitize it completely. This is their plan. 

[HardCoreBlue]

38 minutes ago, Mark F said:

 

lol "special master" b.s. 

nobody (except trump) is above the law.

 

"Larry Pfeiffer, a 32-year U.S. intelligence official who was the senior director of the White House Situation Room and chief of staff to then-CIA Director Michael Hayden, said he was “horrified” by the FBI photo of classified documents recovered from Trump's office in Mar-a-Lago.

“If that was me, I wouldn't have the luxury of sitting at a golf resort somewhere talking to lawyers, having lawyers file motions. I'd be doing all that from a jail cell somewhere,” Pfeiffer said. “And it wouldn't have been two years after I left office or retired; it would have been almost from the moment they discovered that maybe I still had some documents sitting around in my basement."

American  legal system has double, triple quadruple standards. you would need the James Webb telescope to detect signs of garland willingness to charge trump.

lol at Americans praising that hack garland for his slow, thorough approach.😂

And yet again, the legal system and some of its players escape accountability hiding behind their cloak of 'independence' and their I 'follow the rule of law' bullshit.

 

[HardCoreBlue]

7 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

And yet again, the legal system and some of its players escape accountability hiding behind their cloak of 'independence' and their I 'follow the rule of law' bullshit.

 

If I'm a defence Lawyer, I'm going to put the work in and document all the legal moves here concerning Trump and his suspected misdeeds from all sides of the equation (Prosecution, defence, judicial) and go ambulance chase clients accused of similar crimes with less status and use that as my justification (Precedent setting sort of approach) ensuring all my cases are open camera for people to see. 

Yea I know I'm living in dream land.

[Mark F]

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yea I know I'm living in dream land.

precedent is old hat, in Murica.

its no fun at all.

by the way, got an inside tip on the next republican nominee, supreme court.

Let the jury consider their verdict,” the King said, for about the twentieth time that day.
“No, no!” said the Queen. “Sentence first—verdict afterwards.”

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Mark F

[Mark F]

1 hour ago, JCon said:

This is their plan. 

and you now see posts here and there saying healthcare is "broken" so need "new"approach.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Mark F