Mark F Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) @blue_gold_84 totally, completely nuts. jordan wants to question one of the prosecutors, Pomerantz, who had conduct of the Trump prosecution. Edited April 11, 2023 by Mark F
bustamente Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 The Republican committee heads are incompetent boobs who talk before they think and are made to look like fools, the hitched their wagon to a loser and as Blanche said in a rare moment of clarity many years ago they are going to get destroyed. Tracker 1
Tracker Posted April 11, 2023 Report Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, bustamente said: The Republican committee heads are incompetent boobs who talk before they think and are made to look like fools, the hitched their wagon to a loser and as Blanche said in a rare moment of clarity many years ago they are going to get destroyed. On behalf of all boob fanciers, I protest the analogy. JCon, HardCoreBlue, bustamente and 1 other 4
Tracker Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 Bombshell: 1000 US citizen children were separated from parents under Trump and Miller's policies A “significant” number of children who were U.S. citizens were separated by the Trump administration from their parents, a result of the then-president’s broader “zero-tolerance” anti-immigrant polices created to send a message to migrants in Central America to not travel to the United States or risk their families being permanently destroyed. “A government task force is tracking the fates of U.S. citizen children taken from migrant parents during the Trump administration. Some have spent years in foster care,” The New York Times revealed in a bombshell report Tuesday. “Hundreds, and possibly as many as 1,000, children born to immigrant parents in the United States were removed from them at the border, according to lawyers and immigrant advocates who are working with the government to find the families.” Just as with the more than 5000 immigrant children the Trump administration separated from their families who the Biden administration has been actively working to re-unite, some of the 1000 children who are U.S. citizens have also yet to be reunited with their families. “In many cases, the U.S.-born children were placed into foster care for lengthy periods, and some have yet to be reunited with their parents, lost in the system nearly five years after the separations took place.”
JCon Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Tracker said: Bombshell: 1000 US citizen children were separated from parents under Trump and Miller's policies A “significant” number of children who were U.S. citizens were separated by the Trump administration from their parents, a result of the then-president’s broader “zero-tolerance” anti-immigrant polices created to send a message to migrants in Central America to not travel to the United States or risk their families being permanently destroyed. “A government task force is tracking the fates of U.S. citizen children taken from migrant parents during the Trump administration. Some have spent years in foster care,” The New York Times revealed in a bombshell report Tuesday. “Hundreds, and possibly as many as 1,000, children born to immigrant parents in the United States were removed from them at the border, according to lawyers and immigrant advocates who are working with the government to find the families.” Just as with the more than 5000 immigrant children the Trump administration separated from their families who the Biden administration has been actively working to re-unite, some of the 1000 children who are U.S. citizens have also yet to be reunited with their families. “In many cases, the U.S.-born children were placed into foster care for lengthy periods, and some have yet to be reunited with their parents, lost in the system nearly five years after the separations took place.” IF they get another term, they'll be building whole new camps for immigrants and other undesirables and taking them there by train. We're not too far off. Tracker and Mark F 1 1
HardCoreBlue Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, JCon said: IF they get another term, they'll be building whole new camps for immigrants and other undesirables and taking them there by train. We're not too far off. And this is what types of ‘policies’ a large portion of Americans support. I guess it’s just another ‘side’ to the issue. Tracker and JCon 1 1
Tracker Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: And this is what types of ‘policies’ a large portion of Americans support. I guess it’s just another ‘side’ to the issue. What diminishes one of us, diminishes all of us. JCon 1
JCon Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 More disgusting and criminal behaviour from Fox. No wonder they appeal to the right! Bigblue204, blue_gold_84, Mark F and 2 others 4 1
HardCoreBlue Posted April 12, 2023 Report Posted April 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, JCon said: More disgusting and criminal behaviour from Fox. No wonder they appeal to the right! C’mon it’s just entertainment when they withhold key evidence, part of their MO as entertainers not to be taken seriously. They’re just playing around, just having fun. They don’t even know what evidence is or isn’t. I’m sure some judge will overrule sanctions given here accepting this defence. Bigblue204 1
Tracker Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, JCon said: More disgusting and criminal behaviour from Fox. No wonder they appeal to the right! Birds of a feather.... The presiding judge has also said that if there is any further evidence that Fox is either withholding or delaying the producing of relevant evidence (emails etc) that he will appoint a Special Master at Fox's expense to investigate this. The Special Master would have full subpoena powers with the threat of contempt of court penalties for noncompliance. Edited April 13, 2023 by Tracker JCon 1
HardCoreBlue Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tracker said: Birds of a feather.... The presiding judge has also said that if there is any further evidence that Fox is either withholding or delaying the producing of relevant evidence (emails etc) that he will appoint a Special Master at Fox's expense to investigate this. The Special Master would have full subpoena powers with the threat of contempt of court penalties for noncompliance. Help me understand why this wouldn't always be? It should be a mandatory consequence regardless of who you are and regardless of the case being investigated. If a subpoena is legally issued and I don't comply, I (regardless of who I am and where I fit along the continuum of power and status) need to feel hurt quickly and swiftly. Bigblue204 1
Tracker Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said: Help me understand why this wouldn't always be? It should be a mandatory consequence regardless of who you are and regardless of the case being investigated. If a subpoena is legally issued and I don't comply, I (regardless of who I am and where I fit along the continuum of power and status) need to feel hurt quickly and swiftly. Civil suits in Canada, and probably in the US typically do not involve government/court sanctions as essentially these are disputes between individuals or other entities (corporations, associations etc.) where no law is broken and one party or the other believes they have a grievance against the other) and seeks redress.
Tracker Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 Billionaire Harlan Crow bought property from Clarence Thomas and the Justice didn’t disclose the deal In 2014, one of Texas billionaire Harlan Crow’s companies purchased a string of properties on a quiet residential street in Savannah, Georgia. It wasn’t a marquee acquisition for the real estate magnate, just an old single-story home and two vacant lots down the road. What made it noteworthy were the people on the other side of the deal: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his relatives. The transaction marks the first known instance of money flowing from the Republican megadonor to the Supreme Court justice. The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse. The purchase put Crow in an unusual position: He now owned the house where the justice’s elderly mother was living. Soon after the sale was completed, contractors began work on tens of thousands of dollars of improvements on the two-bedroom, one-bathroom home, which looks out onto a patch of orange trees. The renovations included a carport, a repaired roof and a new fence and gates, according to city permit records and blueprints. A federal disclosure law passed after Watergate requires justices and other officials to disclose the details of most real estate sales over $1,000. Thomas never disclosed his sale of the Savannah properties. That appears to be a violation of the law, four ethics law experts told ProPublica. The disclosure form Thomas filed for that year also had a space to report the identity of the buyer in any private transaction, such as a real estate deal. That space is blank. -Propublica bustamente 1
bustamente Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 Being a white collar criminal is the American way, doing it and being praised for it is something new though. JCon, Bigblue204 and HardCoreBlue 3
Tracker Posted April 13, 2023 Report Posted April 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, bustamente said: Being a white collar criminal is the American way, doing it and being praised for it is something new though. Not all that new. The term "Robber Barons" was coined in the US in the late 1800's to describe this sort of person. JCon 1
Mark F Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) Not that anyone doesnt know all of this, but here is a link to a very good editorial NYT article outlining the descent into authoritarianism in the US. not encouraging, as wealthy right wingers in search of tax breaks align with the racists whites at the state level, with help from Supreme Court, and flaccid Democrats like Obama, with his "bipartisan" b.s. link to NYT article. "The Republican Strategists who have carefully planned all of this" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/12/opinion/republican-party-intrusive-government.html?unlocked_article_code=UO07cOcbM583lmZojYi7RbcWDz9JbJ90oZX4AvKt3sAzeaUqVfwaKSWhkRLplqYxx5wpA-MMYVSkMy8288AsXqJm7jHDSaQwAvmpfZUGBv2I7Kk8J3xFtWBE-E4xBZkgLzwAWp4gQ1Gfwji_XYW1Bpbsn8Dje75eSVRNNzz2dec1iq4vUuxZ5LM6W3Snvcdq9i8EXqHgi0E6U2GOFX6286acrjBuwjA5me7glSdqmPV-h39C-gHRe7L0xk_KSU_IM8hgohg3AHaHWqZEewktCJWAZ0alyKA9pq30ZJrKxJOXYEAUZmmyl4hc-iba-hVaBHke7r0pp3AcSQ4BdZ0DtBDI1Uw5pUqAl6r_pw&smid=url-share Edited April 14, 2023 by Mark F Tracker 1
HardCoreBlue Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mark F said: Not that anyone doesnt know all of this, but there is a link to an editorial NYT article outlining the descent into authoritarianism in the US. not encouraging, as wealthy right wingers in search of tax breaks align with the racists whites at the state level, with help from Supreme Court. link to NYT article. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/12/opinion/republican-party-intrusive-government.html?unlocked_article_code=UO07cOcbM583lmZojYi7RbcWDz9JbJ90oZX4AvKt3sAzeaUqVfwaKSWhkRLplqYxx5wpA-MMYVSkMy8288AsXqJm7jHDSaQwAvmpfZUGBv2I7Kk8J3xFtWBE-E4xBZkgLzwAWp4gQ1Gfwji_XYW1Bpbsn8Dje75eSVRNNzz2dec1iq4vUuxZ5LM6W3Snvcdq9i8EXqHgi0E6U2GOFX6286acrjBuwjA5me7glSdqmPV-h39C-gHRe7L0xk_KSU_IM8hgohg3AHaHWqZEewktCJWAZ0alyKA9pq30ZJrKxJOXYEAUZmmyl4hc-iba-hVaBHke7r0pp3AcSQ4BdZ0DtBDI1Uw5pUqAl6r_pw&smid=url-share The saying 'history tends to repeat itself' is ringing true once again. Tracker and Mark F 1 1
JCon Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 Now, they're defending Nazis. You know where this is going and it's going there really fast. Tracker and Mark F 1 1
Mark F Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JCon said: Now, they're defending Nazis. next step is ..... the Nazis were correct, next step round up Jews, gays, blacks, asians. and yeah, it seems to be accelerating. just astounding. In Germany, this stuff is not permitted. "The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance." Edited April 14, 2023 by Mark F Bigblue204 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark F said: next step is ..... the Nazis were correct, next step round up Jews, gays, blacks, asians 75% woke there
bustamente Posted April 15, 2023 Report Posted April 15, 2023 Wonder what the reasoning for point number 3 is, surely they wouldn't want supporters of the loser to get ahold of that information.
Tracker Posted April 16, 2023 Report Posted April 16, 2023 On 2023-04-13 at 5:14 PM, Tracker said: Billionaire Harlan Crow bought property from Clarence Thomas and the Justice didn’t disclose the deal In 2014, one of Texas billionaire Harlan Crow’s companies purchased a string of properties on a quiet residential street in Savannah, Georgia. It wasn’t a marquee acquisition for the real estate magnate, just an old single-story home and two vacant lots down the road. What made it noteworthy were the people on the other side of the deal: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his relatives. The transaction marks the first known instance of money flowing from the Republican megadonor to the Supreme Court justice. The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse. The purchase put Crow in an unusual position: He now owned the house where the justice’s elderly mother was living. Soon after the sale was completed, contractors began work on tens of thousands of dollars of improvements on the two-bedroom, one-bathroom home, which looks out onto a patch of orange trees. The renovations included a carport, a repaired roof and a new fence and gates, according to city permit records and blueprints. A federal disclosure law passed after Watergate requires justices and other officials to disclose the details of most real estate sales over $1,000. Thomas never disclosed his sale of the Savannah properties. That appears to be a violation of the law, four ethics law experts told ProPublica. The disclosure form Thomas filed for that year also had a space to report the identity of the buyer in any private transaction, such as a real estate deal. That space is blank. -Propublica Clarence Thomas Reported Income From a Firm That Doesn’t Exist -Joshua Roberts/Reuters Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas made headlines last week after ProPublica exposed his unreported financial ties to billionaire donor Harlan Crow. Then on Sunday, the Washington Post revealed another disclosure discrepancy: for the last two decades, Thomas stated on disclosure forms that his family received hundreds of thousands of dollars in rental income from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership—a firm that hasn’t existed since 2006. Ginger, Ltd., Partnership was a Nebraska real estate company launched by Thomas’s wife and her relatives in the 1980s. It was shut down in 2006 and a new firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, was created to take over the land leasing business—but Thomas’ disclosures still listed the old firm, reporting between $50,000 and $100,000 annually from Ginger, Ltd., Partnership in recent years. The error is just the latest omission by Thomas on his required annual disclosure forms. Thomas’ secret ties to Crow have prompted many to call for the justice’s resignation.
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