The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: trump will have a good shot at beating anyone. He's stacked the deck in his favour... Whether it be mini mike and his height and low energy, Liz Warren and her bogus heritage claim, Pete not representing the values of the nation, or Biden being a ******* relic... trump's going to have crazy illegal support- anyone is going to be in tough. Bernie and his socialism will get hammer too... but Bernie seems to be the only one in the field that has real momentum. Barring an even crazier cheating effort than last time or a crazy last minute scandal, trump would get whooped by anyone. But not Bernie.
do or die Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, Zontar said: The threat of shutting down of entire fossil fuel industries wont just freak out the multi nationals and the donor class.... ordinary people with good paying jobs in previously depressed areas ( after going years without one) will tell Sanders to take his repackaged Marxism and shove it. Was referring more to entities such as pharmaceutical industry, insurance industry, the ole military industrial complex.....who gobble up billions, while millions of Americans can't get proper insurance, health care etc. JCon 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Barring an even crazier cheating effort than last time or a crazy last minute scandal, trump would get whooped by anyone. But not Bernie. Considering the DOJ is pretty much weaponized for trump's foreign political influence and the GOP is OK with it.... it will be even crazier... I thought in all 1 on 1 polls Bernie was actually the candidate best suited to take trump on.
johnzo Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Which previously depressed areas? Are they the same ones with the illegal voting problems?
Zontar Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Sanders will try to sell it as Scandinavian style statism. Meanwhile his "bros" are gunning for full on eat -the- rich 1917 style .
17to85 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 The rich need to be eaten quite frankly.
do or die Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 They have nothing to fear from Trump any in any case. Having chiseled on his own taxes, he certainly will defend their ability to use a multitude of tax and investment loopholes to live high off the hog. Example: Amazon not only did not pay any US federal income tax - but received a 129 Million tax rebate.
Zontar Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 6 hours ago, 17to85 said: The rich need to be eaten quite frankly. Yes, I'll have the Soros special with the Bezos on the side , please.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 12 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Considering the DOJ is pretty much weaponized for trump's foreign political influence and the GOP is OK with it.... it will be even crazier... I thought in all 1 on 1 polls Bernie was actually the candidate best suited to take trump on. I wasn’t a Warren fan early but honestly I think she’s the ideal candidate. When trump treats her like he rested Hilary and probably worse, it won’t look good. Hilary has the “*****” thing where people disliked her and her trump still was considered a bully and misogynistic. To warren he’s look like a serial killer. But Bernie....Bernie can put forth a good argument. He will hold his own because he’s a prick too. But point being is, it will be all about Bernie. Bernies politics. Bernies policies. Bernies misdeeds. Not trumps. Bernie will be on the defensive the whole campaign. They said Reagan was too old. Bernie is ancient and has a bad heart. It will also be a referendum on his running mate. He almost has to pick to Warren to be honest. Because he can’t pick any of the losers because trump will designate them the real nominee and why weren’t they the nominee? Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
17to85 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 I completely disagree with your take. That is the hope of the corporate media whose owners don't want to actually have to pay taxes. Bernie is the best at engaging people of all the candidates. He is strong at messaging and won't get sucked into trying to not offended anyone. Yeah he's old as **** and that's a negative, but the guy had built a following. He's got support for a reason. It's the same reason there is a faction that supports trump no matter what. He tells them what they want to hear. Except in Bernie's case it's not racism but things that will actually help people.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I completely disagree with your take. That is the hope of the corporate media whose owners don't want to actually have to pay taxes. Bernie is the best at engaging people of all the candidates. He is strong at messaging and won't get sucked into trying to not offended anyone. Yeah he's old as **** and that's a negative, but the guy had built a following. He's got support for a reason. It's the same reason there is a faction that supports trump no matter what. He tells them what they want to hear. Except in Bernie's case it's not racism but things that will actually help people. Like I said. I hope I’m wrong. Bernie isn’t holding a majority of democratic primary voting though. He’s winning. But with a large field he’s winning with 20-30%. He could actually still lose the nomination. The candidates who are out of it should quit now. Let Bernie, Biden & Warren battle it out. There is no doubt Bernie can capture the far left vote. But there is a lot of middle ground. We’re all logical people with common sense. We’re not racists or delusional. So we assume the vast middle ground will vote against trump. Bernie can beat trump. Hell you or I could beat trump. He’s awful. But he’s the candidate trump wants and he’s the candidate Russia wants for a reason. Because he’s less likely to whoop trump then any of the other front runners. If Bernie is the nominee and beats trump I’ll come here and gladly say I was wrong. But I think every election has an attack strategy. It’s either the age or inexperience or health or whatever of the candidate. Bernie is all of those.
17to85 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Choose between a better social safety net, affordable healthcare, a more equitable system or racism... there is no middle ground let's not kid ourselves. The oligarchy in the US has dragged everything to the right that their cries for the middle ground are still right wing ****. Trump might want Bernie, but I think anyone else is an easier target because the people of the US want change. It's the entire reason trump himself got elected. He was different than other politicians. As for Russia, they want Bernie cause they want chaos and the democratic party imploding on itself is good for chaos, and that might happen if Bernie wins. Mark F 1
Mark F Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, 17to85 said: As for Russia, Canada has a higher GDP than Russia. "In 2012 oil, gas and petroleum products accounted for over 70% of total exports,As of the 2nd quarter of 2015 inflation, compared to the second quarter of 2014, was 8%; the economy had contracted by 4.6%Russia is rated one of the most unequal of the world’s major economies,A poll completed in 2018 among 1400 managers of non-hydrocarbons Russian businesses demonstrated high level of pessimism, with majority describing the economic situation in the country as "catastrophic". 73% of respondents in large businesses and 77% in medium and small are dealing with a "crisis"... wiki amazing that a country so badly run, can cause so much trouble. When the oil bus ends, Russia is going to be in chaos. again. Edited February 25, 2020 by Mark F
do or die Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484506-limbaugh-claims-coronavirus-is-being-weaponized-to-bring-down-trump Real exciting news! You just won't believe it! Can't get that raise? Tired of the neighbours, co-workers and media looking down on you? Make yourself great again!! For only $39.95 per month, you too, can have your very own Medal of Freedom!! Yes!, the ultimate symbol of American citizen achievement can be yours!! No imitation, this medal is really huge, comes in its own monogrammed box, and has a tremendous shiny finish!, it is also stamped with the actual signature of Donald J.Trump! But wait! There's more! This gorgeous medal actually comes with a built in speaker/recorder, so you can whisper or even roar your latest conspiracy theories into it - and have it played back to you, over and over again!!! Just think how much fun you and the kids can have!! This is a limited time offer only, as no other product has ever sold like this in the entire history of the world. Order now, and receive at no extra charge - a fully life size cardboard cutout of President Trump!! You can then proudly wear your MOF as you salute it, every night!!! If it's good enough for the President - its good enough for you!! No returns allowed, because there won't be any!! So just pick up the phone and dial WHITEHOUSE-3777 or send checks by mail or text to: Account: 2938494-DJT Deutsche Bank AG Frankfurt, Germany JCon, Mark F, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 4
JCon Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, do or die said: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484506-limbaugh-claims-coronavirus-is-being-weaponized-to-bring-down-trump Real exciting news! You just won't believe it! Can't get that raise? Tired of the neighbours, co-workers and media looking down on you? Make yourself great again!! For only $39.95 per month, you too, can have your very own Medal of Freedom!! Yes!, the ultimate symbol of American citizen achievement can be yours!! No imitation, this medal is really huge, comes in its own monogrammed box, and has a tremendous shiny finish!, it is also stamped with the actual signature of Donald J.Trump! But wait! There's more! This gorgeous medal actually comes with a built in speaker/recorder, so you can whisper or even roar your latest conspiracy theories into it - and have it played back to you, over and over again!!! Just think how much fun you and the kids can have!! This is a limited time offer only, as no other product has ever sold like this in the entire history of the world. Order now, and receive at no extra charge - a fully life size cardboard cutout of President Trump!! You can then proudly wear your MOF as you salute it, every night!!! If it's good enough for the President - its good enough for you!! No returns allowed, because there won't be any!! So just pick up the phone and dial WHITEHOUSE-3777 or send checks by mail or text to: Account: 2938494-DJT Deutsche Bank AG Frankfurt, Germany Just like the links between cancer and cigarettes. I wonder how many more people will die as a result of this druggie's snake oil?
blue_gold_84 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/donald-trump-ruth-bader-ginsburg-sonia-sotomayor-recusal/index.html It's CNN, though... Must be just fake news.
Zontar Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Practically the entire US MSM pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian asset . For three years. They've completely memory holed their involvement in it apart from of a few hardcore truthers but it's Limbaugh , a talk radio host, who's credibility should take a hit ? Seriously ?
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Zontar said: Practically the entire US MSM pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian asset . For three years. They've completely memory holed their involvement in it apart from of a few hardcore truthers but it's Limbaugh , a talk radio host, who's credibility should take a hit ? Seriously ? Well, he is. bb.king and JCon 2
blue_gold_84 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 Yes, Zonty… The coronavirus was artificially manufactured in a Chinese lab, more than three years after the fact, to undermine Donald Trump's presidency. You're supposed to wear the tinfoil, not eat it. And Limbaugh has credibility like he has good health. But feel free to cry about the "evil Murican MSM" and their pushing of conspiracy theories.
Zontar Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Well, he is. There was a second shooter in the grassy knoll too.
Zontar Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Yes, Zonty… The coronavirus was artificially manufactured in a Chinese lab, more than three years after the fact, to undermine Donald Trump's presidency. You're supposed to wear the tinfoil, not eat it. And Limbaugh has credibility like he has good health. But feel free to cry about the "evil Murican MSM" and their pushing of conspiracy theories. Not defending the theory. Havnt heard it or read it. Limbaugh isnt the point. Anti trump conspiracy theories are dime a dozen in media culture. Some of them cheer leaded by supposedly respectable media. But when a theory comes along that says hes a victim suddenly it's time for scrutiny and ridicule ?
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, Zontar said: Practically the entire US MSM pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian asset . For three years. They've completely memory holed their involvement in it apart from of a few hardcore truthers but it's Limbaugh , a talk radio host, who's credibility should take a hit ? Seriously ? He is a total Russian asset. He has done more for the Russians in undermining the US and NATO than any ops the Russians have ever launched... If you don't believe me, just go through the check boxes of what trump admin has done that Putin would support. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Zontar said: There was a second shooter in the grassy knoll too. Just because you deny obvious facts doesn’t make them untrue. At least you’re admitting to your absurd blind commitment to a stark raving racist.
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: He is a total Russian asset. He has done more for the Russians in undermining the US and NATO than any ops the Russians have ever launched... If you don't believe me, just go through the check boxes of what trump admin has done that Putin would support. Yup. Unwitting asset is still an asset. Although he’s clearly a bit of both.
blue_gold_84 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Posted February 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zontar said: Not defending the theory. Havnt heard it or read it. Limbaugh isnt the point. Anti trump conspiracy theories are dime a dozen in media culture. Some of them cheer leaded by supposedly respectable media. But when a theory comes along that says hes a victim suddenly it's time for scrutiny and ridicule ? What are you "defending" exactly? Maybe read the content in the link and then formulate a coherent reply, lest we all have to read another comment of yours rife with useless deflection and whataboutism. Man, it's like trying to have a discussion with a houseplant. Only the houseplant doesn't sap oxygen from the room. bb.king and The Unknown Poster 2
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