do or die Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Zontar said: Trump's mangling of the language is just he's mostly a horrible off the cuff public speaker. Doesnt value preparedness and polish. He doesn't value much of anything. Your willingness to always deflect from Trump's obvious bluster and ignorance about just about any topic, under the sun.........is pretty well Pavlovian, at this point. Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare..... Wideleft 1
Zontar Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, do or die said: Not hard to figure out the Trump crisis playbook - whatever happens, you can pretty well count on: Bullying (shooting messengers, in his own administration, who embarrass or merely contradict him)Deflections (blame the Fed, Immigrants, Democrats, Media et al.)Spinning (especially whacked out conspiracy theories)Lying (about virtually everything at anytime, anywhere)Bombast dismissing serious issues (“hoax”, “witch hunt”, "Presidential harassment") So in other words... politics ?
Zontar Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 Just now, do or die said: He doesn't value much of anything. Your willingness to always deflect from Trump's obvious bluster and ignorance about just about any topic, under the sun.........is pretty well Pavlovian, at this point. Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare..... Not deflecting anything. Trump is a horrible at verbalizing. Biden is horrible from his mentally detiorating. Kind of a difference there blue_gold_84 1
do or die Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Zontar said: Not deflecting anything. Trump is a horrible at verbalizing. Biden is horrible from his mentally detiorating. Kind of a difference there So, Trump's big drawback as supposed leader of the free world...... is that he is horrible at verbalizing? Inaccurate and simplistic. But in fairness, probably deliberately so,
Zontar Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, do or die said: So, Trump's big drawback as supposed leader of the free world...... is that he is horrible at verbalizing? Inaccurate and simplistic. But in fairness, probably deliberately so, The number of highly polished speakers but mediocre, ineffective politicians is legion.
blue_gold_84 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Zontar said: Not deflecting anything. Trump is a horrible at verbalizing. Biden is horrible from his mentally detiorating. Kind of a difference there Spare the lame-ass excuses; there's no difference between them. The two are all of four years apart (Trump is 73 and Biden is 77). Trump is just as senile and demented if you could manage to look at things objectively. Neither of these geriatric assclowns should be in politics.
do or die Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 Well, Biden is a bread pudding, past its expiry date. His VP choice would have to do a lot of heavy lifting. But at least.......Biden is not a loudmouth, bulling, blustering, raging, malignant narcissist. Quite a difference as far as the potential damage, to America. Wideleft and blue_gold_84 2
Zontar Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Spare the lame-ass excuses; there's no difference between them. The two are all of four years apart (Trump is 73 and Biden is 77). Trump is just as senile and demented if you could manage to look at things objectively. Neither of these geriatric assclowns should be in politics. Wrong. Trump's habits havnt changed .Pretty much been that way his whole professional life. Same can't be said for Biden and that's being polite.
17to85 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Trump is less coherent now than whe he ran for election (as low as that bar is). His mind is clearly on it's way out of the building. Edited March 3, 2020 by 17to85
Zontar Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, do or die said: Well, Biden is a bread pudding, past its expiry date. His VP choice would have to do a lot of heavy lifting. But at least.......Biden is not a loudmouth, bulling, blustering, raging, malignant narcissist. Quite a difference as far as the potential damage, to America. Biden is the worst kind of politican. Say anything, do anything, go with the flow to keep career moving and make business contacts along the way and retire on a mountain of money. He spouts the loony leftist stuff but it's clear his heart ain't in it. He could stand up to the party establishment and demand a return to the party's, sensible, working class roots.. But , again, say anything, do anything...snout in the trough and swamp muck.
blue_gold_84 Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Zontar said: Wrong. Trump's habits havnt changed .Pretty much been that way his whole professional life. Same can't be said for Biden and that's being polite. You can't be serious. He's been slimy and uncouth his entire life. No argument there. This isn't about his habits, though. It's about his inability to articulate himself, pronounce words, and otherwise express himself in a way that's either stately or sophisticated. Go back 15, 20, 25 years. He was capable of speaking like functional human being back then. His age and perhaps his genetics have caught up with him. If you can't see the deterioration of his mental health over the last five or so years, you're either wilfully ignorant or flat out delusional. Perhaps both.
Wideleft Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Zontar said: Biden is the worst kind of politican. Say anything, do anything, go with the flow to keep career moving and make business contacts along the way and retire on a mountain of money. He spouts the loony leftist stuff but it's clear his heart ain't in it. He could stand up to the party establishment and demand a return to the party's, sensible, working class roots.. But , again, say anything, do anything...snout in the trough and swamp muck. He's 77 and still not retired. You may have noticed he is running for president. The rest of this is as incoherent, unsupported and meaningless as something Trump would say. blue_gold_84 1
Wideleft Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: You can't be serious. He's been slimy and uncouth his entire life. No argument there. This isn't about his habits, though. It's about his inability to articulate himself, pronounce words, and otherwise express himself in a way that's either stately or sophisticated. Go back 15, 20, 25 years. He was capable of speaking like functional human being back then. His age and perhaps his genetics have caught up with him. If you can't see the deterioration of his mental health over the last five or so years, you're either wilfully ignorant or flat out delusional. Perhaps both. I'm betting on wilfully ignorant. This level of ignorance requires supreme effort and probably years of practise. blue_gold_84 1
rebusrankin Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 I think its fair to question/have concerns about Trump's, Biden's and Sander's health and metal states.
CodyT Posted March 3, 2020 Report Posted March 3, 2020 20 hours ago, 17to85 said: I've seen polls showing bernie polls best vs. Trump. Biden is a worse candidate than hillary. Mark my words if the Democrats insist on trying to play the moderate hand it will backfire. The republicans are fighting a war, you need some extreme opposition. That's what the people want. Watched a video with Michael Moore on Canadian news saying exactly this. If the dems play it safe it's a guaranteed L. That country needs a total overhaul, and although I don't love all of Sanders policy's he is hands down the only one with the hearts of the people. He is standing up for what he believes in. Guaranteed health care isn't a ridiculous ask for the a country that spends more money on military than the next 10 countries combined. If you think what is really the largest security/health risk to their country? It's not Iraq, or the never ending wars. It's right at home where people are being ****** over the coals for health treatments and medication. What a backwards brainwashed world. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Wideleft 2
The Unknown Poster Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 Imagine admitting you’re a trump guy. Talk about embarrassing. Anyway look like Warren is done. She’ll get to play king maker. What’s with Americans and women? Wideleft 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 Aaaand queue up the "Quip Pro Joe" slogans.... Trump and fox are going to beat the living **** out of Joe.... 4 more years of trump if he is the nomination.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Aaaand queue up the "Quip Pro Joe" slogans.... Trump and fox are going to beat the living **** out of Joe.... 4 more years of trump if he is the nomination. Well if it’s Biden or Bernie and you think Biden has no shot then he’s it’s a trump win. Not four more years. It’s the end of legitimate democracy. And a trump autocracy Shame about Warren. She was the best. Summed up well by a wonderful actor: Wanna-B-Fanboy and CodyT 2
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) They think this guy is going to take on trump and fox machine... Edited March 4, 2020 by wanna-b-fanboy blue_gold_84 1
The Unknown Poster Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: They think this guy is going to take on trump and fox machine... Oh please. Trump can tell the difference between his wife and daughter but wants to bang them both. Biden will be fine. He’ll whoop trump in the debates. Edited March 4, 2020 by The Unknown Poster
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Oh please. Trump can tell the difference between his wife and daughter but wants to bang them both. Biden will be fine. He’ll whoop trump in the debates. Biden is like Hillary Clinton- except he's less popular. And his fighting days are over- this ain't Ali in his prime- this is Ali vs Holmes. Biden's toast.
The Unknown Poster Posted March 4, 2020 Report Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Biden is like Hillary Clinton- except he's less popular. And his fighting days are over- this ain't Ali in his prime- this is Ali vs Holmes. Biden's toast. Trump only won because he cheated. And the moderate Republicans who thought they were voting for a traditional republican see the truth now. Biden really has to do nothing to win. Deliver the moderates. As someone else said, his VP can be the fighter. Bernie has soooo much baggage. and if Joe is like Hilary that’s a good sign. She whooped trump. Edited March 4, 2020 by The Unknown Poster
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