Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Good read Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Anyone see the irony of Trump posing, these days, as the "law and order" President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 It's time like this that America could use a President, instead of a coward hiding at the WH in a secured bunker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Tracker said: As an example of American "Justice"- this 14 year old boy was executed for allegedly raping a white woman in the 50's. He was exonerated almost 70 years later when the "victim" on her deathbed recanted. The only evidence was her statement. Don't mean to pick on you Tracker but this story has some wires crossed and the presentation of facts is important, these photos look like they were possibly taken from a re-enactment of the event as colour photog. was not at all common in 1955, even less so in 1944. Emmett Till 14 was kidnapped from his Uncle's home in Mississippi in 1955, executed and dumped in the Tallahatchie River for allegedly flirting with a white shop-keeper who later recanted specific details of her testimony in an interview granted in 2008. This was not a govt. sanctioned execution, although sure enough a jury of their peers let the accused parties walk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till George Stinney was a 14 year old boy executed by electric chair by the State of South Carolina in 1944 for allegedly murdering two girls, ages 7 and 11. His conviction was overturned in 2014, 70 years after he was executed when a court ruled that he had not received a fair trial. Stephen King was inspired by this case to write his book “The Green Mile”, which was made into a movie released in 1999. https://lifenroots.com/en/the-real-story-behind-the-green-mile-you-will-cry/ Edited June 1, 2020 by Throw Long Bannatyne Wideleft and Fred C Dobbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Tracker said: As an example of American "Justice"- this 14 year old boy was executed for allegedly raping a white woman in the 50's. He was exonerated almost 70 years later when the "victim" on her deathbed recanted. The only evidence was her statement. That was not what he was charged and convicted of. He was convicted of killing two young girls in a sham trial (a 2 hour trial and 10 minute deliberation). His conviction was overturned 70 years after his execution though. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/18/the-rush-job-conviction-of-14-year-old-george-stinney-exonerated-70-years-after-execution/ Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Electrocuting a 14 year old innocent kid with 5400 volts to the head??? Reminds me of a song from 1973 called That's The Night That The Lights Went Out In Georgia written by Reba McIntyre with the lyrics: "The Judge said guily in a make believe trial Slapped the Sheriff on the back with a smile Said supper's waiting at home and I gotta get to it." Amazing how in 1944 they overlooked the weight of the beam yet figured it out 70 years later? It doesn't take Perry Mason to have known the teen couldn't have lifted the beam as it would have been too heavy for him. Those fuckers knew at the time. The boy's lawyer knew. The Prosecutor knew. The Judge knew. The jury knew. The cops knew. The people in the courtroom knew. The reporters knew. They all knew but just didn't care. He was black & that was all that mattered. Two little white girls were killed by someone else. The real murderer may have walked among that community for another half century. Thing is, they let the real guilty person get away with it. But they got their kind of justice & that's all that mattered. Edited June 1, 2020 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Oh how everybody misses this guy... A real leader. blue_gold_84 and Fred C Dobbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Don't mean to pick on you Tracker .. Oh it's not just you. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-stinney-execution-exoneration/ I'm bringing it up just so that people not freak out that it was an actual picture. You can take away the flag but it's still the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 blue_gold_84, The Unknown Poster, Fred C Dobbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Don't mean to pick on you Tracker but this story has some wires crossed and the presentation of facts is important, these photos look like they were possibly taken from a re-enactment of the event as colour photog. was not at all common in 1955, even less so in 1944. Emmett Till 14 was kidnapped from his Uncle's home in Mississippi in 1955, executed and dumped in the Tallahatchie River for allegedly flirting with a white shop-keeper who later recanted specific details of her testimony in an interview granted in 2008. This was not a govt. sanctioned execution, although sure enough a jury of their peers let the accused parties walk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till George Stinney was a 14 year old boy executed by electric chair by the State of South Carolina in 1944 for allegedly murdering two girls, ages 7 and 11. His conviction was overturned in 2014, 70 years after he was executed when a court ruled that he had not received a fair trial. Stephen King was inspired by this case to write his book “The Green Mile”, which was made into a movie released in 1999. https://lifenroots.com/en/the-real-story-behind-the-green-mile-you-will-cry/ It appears that you are correct and I was wrong. Thank you for the correction but the point still stands. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 The Pastor Who Called Trump's White House ‘Holy Ground’ Is Raking in the Bucks ‘IN THE NAME OF JESUS’ When Trump told her he was running for president and wanted her to be his “bridge” to the Christian right, she introduced him to 30 or 40 pastors at a time. The One Voice Prayer Movement launched out of the White House a year ago by Pastor Paula White is a case study in how to leverage religious connections for political gain. Appointed special adviser to the Office of Faith and Opportunity initiative by President Trump, White is mobilizing religious-right leaders to promote Trump’s Reopen America message and defend his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. White’s supporters see her as an agent sent by God to ensure Trump’s re-election, and she claims to have had a “divine encounter” at the White House that gave her “every authority to declare the White House as holy ground because I was standing there and where I stand is holy.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/pastor-paula-white-who-called-trumps-white-house-holy-ground-is-raking-in-the-bucks?ref=home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 On Fox News, McEnany claims Trump hasn't delivered Oval Office address about Floyd because of Antifa "A national Oval Office address is not going to stop Antifa,” McEnany says. “What’s going to stop Antifa is action" White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday blamed Antifa for President Donald Trump's refusal to give an Oval Office address to the nation in the wake of George Floyd's apparent killing by Minneapolis police. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/01/on-fox-news-mcenany-claims-trump-hasnt-delivered-oval-office-address-about-floyd-because-of-antifa_partner/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Trump Was Reportedly Rushed To Underground Bunker For Protection During D.C. Protests Melania and Barron Trump reportedly accompanied him. As anti-racist protests continued for a fourth night in Washington, D.C., the Secret Service rushed President Donald Trump to an underground bunker, according to a number of media reports. Trump and his family were never in any real danger on Friday when they were relocated but the incident rattled them, sources told The New York Times, which was the first news outlet to report the extraordinary safety measure. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/donald-trump-bunker-george-floyd-protests_n_5ed47035c5b6d9860129333f (Trump flaunts his courage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklewasher Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tracker said: Trump Was Reportedly Rushed To Underground Bunker For Protection During D.C. Protests Melania and Barron Trump reportedly accompanied him. As anti-racist protests continued for a fourth night in Washington, D.C., the Secret Service rushed President Donald Trump to an underground bunker, according to a number of media reports. Trump and his family were never in any real danger on Friday when they were relocated but the incident rattled them, sources told The New York Times, which was the first news outlet to report the extraordinary safety measure. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/donald-trump-bunker-george-floyd-protests_n_5ed47035c5b6d9860129333f (Trump flaunts his courage) Can they leave him there? Like just "accidentally" lock the door and come back upstairs? Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tracker said: On Fox News, McEnany claims Trump hasn't delivered Oval Office address about Floyd because of Antifa "A national Oval Office address is not going to stop Antifa,” McEnany says. “What’s going to stop Antifa is action" White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday blamed Antifa for President Donald Trump's refusal to give an Oval Office address to the nation in the wake of George Floyd's apparent killing by Minneapolis police. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/01/on-fox-news-mcenany-claims-trump-hasnt-delivered-oval-office-address-about-floyd-because-of-antifa_partner/ They dont even pretend anymore. When he praised the nazi's as very fine people they explained it away as him supporting the protestors too. Now they dont even pretend. Not a word about white supremacists. He needs to not only lose the election, but lose badly. Im beginning to get a bad feeling. They wont allow it. It's going to be stolen and probably overtly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Obama pens an essay on the situation today: "Throughout American history, it’s only in response to protest that the political system has even paid attention to marginalized communities," he said. "But eventually, aspirations have to be translated into specific laws and institutional practices — and in a democracy, that only happens when we elect government officials who are responsive to our demands." "The bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both," "Change would be most impactful at the local level. The elected officials "who matter most" when it comes to reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work as state, city and county officials." Voter turnout in these local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people — which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact that who wins and who loses those seats is often determined by just a few thousand, or even a few hundred, votes,." Think about the specific changes we want for their local criminal justice system and police department. The more specific the demands are, the harder it will be for elected officials to just "pay lip service." “It’s natural to wish for life ‘to just get back to normal’ as a pandemic and economic crisis upend everything around us, but we have to remember that for millions of Americans, being treated differently on account of race is tragically, painfully, maddeningly ‘normal’ Fred C Dobbs, Tracker, The Unknown Poster and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Obama could be the difference make this election. Well, really he shouldnt be. But he will be great at shoring up Biden's weak spots. Biden is just the avatar for the moderates and lefts. A surely one term President who will help bring people together and heal a nation before turning it over to younger more progressive leadership. Its interesting that Obama swept to victory on a campaign of change and hope. And you see him invoking the same things now. The US is far more in need of change and hope than when Obama ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Tracker said: On Fox News, McEnany claims Trump hasn't delivered Oval Office address about Floyd because of Antifa "A national Oval Office address is not going to stop Antifa,” McEnany says. “What’s going to stop Antifa is action" White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday blamed Antifa for President Donald Trump's refusal to give an Oval Office address to the nation in the wake of George Floyd's apparent killing by Minneapolis police. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/01/on-fox-news-mcenany-claims-trump-hasnt-delivered-oval-office-address-about-floyd-because-of-antifa_partner/ I really really want everyone in the press conference to start asking her what exactly it is about anti-fascists that bothers them so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, do or die said: Obama pens an essay on the situation today: "Throughout American history, it’s only in response to protest that the political system has even paid attention to marginalized communities," he said. "But eventually, aspirations have to be translated into specific laws and institutional practices — and in a democracy, that only happens when we elect government officials who are responsive to our demands." "The bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both," "Change would be most impactful at the local level. The elected officials "who matter most" when it comes to reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work as state, city and county officials." Voter turnout in these local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people — which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact that who wins and who loses those seats is often determined by just a few thousand, or even a few hundred, votes,." Think about the specific changes we want for their local criminal justice system and police department. The more specific the demands are, the harder it will be for elected officials to just "pay lip service." “It’s natural to wish for life ‘to just get back to normal’ as a pandemic and economic crisis upend everything around us, but we have to remember that for millions of Americans, being treated differently on account of race is tragically, painfully, maddeningly ‘normal’ Obama is right, rural America is a very insular place, they don't pay a lot of attention to anything going on outside of their lives or communities thus change comes very slowly as the young are educated by the old, passing on their attitudes and values. They would look at recent events as a freak show that could only happen in big cities, the negative footage and imagery will only make them entrench deeper within their own beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Obama is right, rural America is a very insular place, they don't pay a lot of attention to anything going on outside of their lives or communities thus change comes very slowly as the young are educated by the old, passing on their attitudes and values. They would look at recent events as a freak show that could only happen in big cities, the negative footage and imagery will only make them entrench deeper within their own beliefs. It has been said that the reason that America has become so polarized is that between Faux News, the GOP and now Trump, the neo-fascists and racists have become comfortable in coming out into the light. The mainstream media is not blameless. They have bent over backwards to present opposing points of view, even when one of them is as diseased as the alt-right, giving more legitimacy to who were fringe lunatics before. I cannot see how this malevolent genie can be put back in the bottle. Fatty Liver and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Illinois governor immediately confronted Trump over his ‘inflammatory’ rhetoric during call In leaked audio obtained by CNN, President Donald Trump can be heard lambasting governors during a teleconference call on Monday — slamming them as “weak” for not doing more to bring protestors under control and not encouraging more arrests. Trump stressed that he wanted governors to “dominate” protestors. But Democratic Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker did not take it lying down. https://www.alternet.org/2020/06/illinois-governor-immediately-confronted-trump-over-his-inflammatory-rhetoric-during-call/ (Sound like Trump is displacing his bedroom fantasies here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Ex-FBI official slams Bill Barr for ignoring the right-wing ‘Boogaloo Bois’ infiltrating protests Attorney General Bill Barr was slammed by the former assistant director for counterintelligence at the Federal Bureau of Investigation on Saturday for misleading Americans about the source of violence at the protests over the killing of George Floyd while in police custody. “There’s evidence developing, Brian, that the organization we’re seeing of the most violent protesters is coming from a couple of disturbing places,” both, by the way, there’s disparate in terms in being from the right or the left. here’s what those who monitor these groups and sites are seeing. We’re seeing a far-right group, one group for example known as the Boogaloo Bois, who on their private Facebook page and social media outlets are calling for violence, calling for people to show up,” Frank Figliuzzi told MSNBC’s Brian Williams. https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/ex-fbi-official-slams-bill-barr-for-ignoring-the-right-wing-boogaloo-bois-infiltrating-protests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Trump is so dumb and weak that he thinks you just brutalise protestors to get them to stop. He clearly doesn't understand why these protests are happening. Just a pathetically weak human being that thinks being a bully is being strong. Strength is Joe Biden going to a protest and showing understanding. Strength are the police who joined the protestors. Weakness is cowering in a bunker, or hiding behind your tough guy security detail or screaming from safety to hurt people. If there was a guideline for showing leadership in times of crisis Trump always does the opposite. It is staggering to me that he can be so incapable. I mean surely you would think that he would even accidentally do the right thing at least once... but everything has been a complete disaster. He had the easiest job in the world coming out ahead with the pandemic and these protests, but he fumbled both of them because he let his ego get the better of him. Doing the right thing would have made people look at him in the light he wants to be seen in, instead he acted like a monkey throwing **** everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blueingreenland Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 16 hours ago, bustamente said: It's time like this that America could use a President, instead of a coward hiding at the WH in a secured bunker The President DOES NOT make the call of going into the bunker...the Secret Service does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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