Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 “Relying on naturally obtaining herd immunity would be “scientifically and ethically problematic”, Tedros said. “Allowing a dangerous virus that we don’t fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It’s not an option.” https://apple.news/AiV4wjJzlRWWCL61XJb_4Sg Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Unger Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 If only WHO was all on the same page.. https://disrn.com/news/who-official-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-virus-control-method?fbclid=IwAR30YkB12EtHkF2GH5lPf6kdGZDEqo2KPcW-CBJ018u2mZfzY-OV_rwvYks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: “Relying on naturally obtaining herd immunity would be “scientifically and ethically problematic”, Tedros said. “Allowing a dangerous virus that we don’t fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It’s not an option.” https://apple.news/AiV4wjJzlRWWCL61XJb_4Sg 13 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: If only WHO was all on the same page.. https://disrn.com/news/who-official-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-virus-control-method?fbclid=IwAR30YkB12EtHkF2GH5lPf6kdGZDEqo2KPcW-CBJ018u2mZfzY-OV_rwvYks I fail to see how the two are exclusive? The article is saying that herd immunity is immoral. You are saying the WHO says to stop lockdowns as primary virus control. The two statements are not mutually exclusive. You can have other systems and protocols in place and not have to chase Herd Immunity. Wideleft, Mr Dee and Tracker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: The biggest error in judgement on Covid response in the states was New York governor Cuomo. He literally implemented a policy that required nursing homes to accept clients who already had covid which ended up leading to a massively high fatality rate in New York. I see your Cuomo and raise you a Desantis. One made a mistake at the beginning of the pandemic when little was known about the virus,; the other willfully disregards the science and endangers countless people by ignoring the pandemic and spits in the face of evidence based decision making. I know which of the two I would crown with the title of "biggest error in judgement on Covid response" Edited October 13, 2020 by wanna-b-fanboy Mr Dee, bb.king, Fred C Dobbs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I see your Cuomo and raise you a Desantis. One made a mistake at the beginning of the pandemic when little was known about the virus,; the other willfully disregards the science and endangers countless people by ignoring the pandemic and spits in the face of evidence based decision making. I know which of the two I would crown with the title of "biggest error in judgement on Covid response" One admitted his error and stated it was "on him" The other, well.... Tracker, Wideleft, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Floridation..DeSantis’ own version of adjusting the Corona Virus. Fred C Dobbs, blue_gold_84, bustamente and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Colin Unger said: The biggest error in judgement on Covid response in the states was New York governor Cuomo. He literally implemented a policy that required nursing homes to accept clients who already had covid which ended up leading to a massively high fatality rate in New York. I beg to differ. By Lena H. Sun May 10, 2018 at 3:32 p.m. CD The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded under a reorganization by national security adviser John Bolton. The abrupt departure of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer from the National Security Council means no senior administration official is now focused solely on global health security. Ziemer’s departure, along with the breakup of his team, comes at a time when many experts say the country is already underprepared for the increasing risks of a pandemic or bioterrorism attack. Ziemer’s last day was Tuesday, the same day a new Ebola outbreak was declared in Congo. He is not being replaced. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/ blue_gold_84, Tracker, Mr Dee and 5 others 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 https://www.the-sun.com/news/1625454/donald-trump-superfan-dies-praying-coronavirus/ If only this guy had lived long enough to be brought in to appear front and centre at a Trump rally..... Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, Wideleft said: I beg to differ. By Lena H. Sun May 10, 2018 at 3:32 p.m. CD The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded under a reorganization by national security adviser John Bolton. The abrupt departure of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer from the National Security Council means no senior administration official is now focused solely on global health security. Ziemer’s departure, along with the breakup of his team, comes at a time when many experts say the country is already underprepared for the increasing risks of a pandemic or bioterrorism attack. Ziemer’s last day was Tuesday, the same day a new Ebola outbreak was declared in Congo. He is not being replaced. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/ Oh yeah, that was a bone headed move- I remember when that was announced.... I was totally confused by the short-sightedness and stupidity of the move, then my confusion lifted when I remembered what administration we are dealing with here. Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 It does make you wonder.. Tracker, Wideleft, Mark F and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 This a solid thread discussing how a party that caters to the elites can win elections with a widening equality gap. It also touches on where the general strategy of the GOP is taking them and the importance of narrow messaging. It's totally worth a read. Wideleft, Tracker and JCon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: It does make you wonder.. Religion .... one of the tools used by crooks to hide behind, as they fleece the suckers. doesnt have to be, but is there a better example than Trump? Edited October 13, 2020 by Mark F Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 I dont know if anyone is following the SCOTUS confirmation hearing, but man someone needs to ask Barrett about her comments about Garland's nomination. Wideleft, Tracker and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 And one of the highest tweeting rates.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Really?? Internet this week. In a recent report on Barrett’s notable opinions, the Associated Press highlighted a 2019 workplace discrimination ruling that Barrett wrote for a unanimous three-judge panel. According to the the report, Barrett said that there was no evidence that use of the n-word “created a hostile or abusive working environment.” Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Anyone else find it a little premature to place someone on the SCOTUS, when they have been a judge for less than 3 years? Is this unusual? I guess it's like all of trump's appointees, cabinet, and administration- light on actual experience in the role they thrust into. I was curious to see if less than three years experience was an abnormality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Republicans know exactly what they have in ACB, she will be confirmed but will always be associated with the way she got onto the SCOTUS, Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Don’t mess with scientists. Fred C Dobbs and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) This thread is great. It shows how the two parties approach these issues. GOP - full steam ahead to push their own agenda. Democrats - inability to have a plan and to implement it. Edited October 13, 2020 by JCon Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Well, he looks fairly stable.. bustamente, Mark F and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Republicans putting out decoy, real looking ballot collection boxes in CA. Republicans call it "ballot harvesting" sure sounds like Don the Con's idea. SACRAMENTO, CALIF. -- California's chief elections official on Monday ordered Republicans to remove unofficial ballot drop boxes from churches, gun shops and other locations and Attorney General Xavier Becerra warned those behind the "vote tampering" could face prosecution. Republicans refused, saying they are taking advantage of California's liberal ballot collection law that allows anyone to collect ballots from voters and deliver them to county election offices. "As of right now, we're going to continue our ballot harvesting program," California Republican Party spokesman Hector Barajas said. What a bunch of crazy kids! 28 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Well, he looks fairly stable.. VOTE TRUMP.... OR I'LL SUCK YOUR BLOOOOD!!!! Edited October 13, 2020 by Mark F Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I fail to see how the two are exclusive? The article is saying that herd immunity is immoral. You are saying the WHO says to stop lockdowns as primary virus control. The two statements are not mutually exclusive. You can have other systems and protocols in place and not have to chase Herd Immunity. It is because some people want to live in a black and white world and can't grasp the nuance that exists in nearly everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 This is great! Mark F, blue_gold_84, Fred C Dobbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Everyone has an idea of where Trump has gotten his money, his taxes will confirm this that's why he is more interested in keeping them secret that the 200k plus that have died from the virus that he let rum wild Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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