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15 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

???

 

listening right now.

Announcing that Iran and Russia have compromised voter registration databases and that it's them (not the proud boys as was earlier announced) that are pushing out fake election alarms over email.   (edit: and asking Americans to be "thoughtful consumers of information.")

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53 minutes ago, johnzo said:

Back in 2008 I seriously wanted the DOJ to put John Yoo on trial,

And John Yoo is back, advising Trump.

 

“Alka Pradhan, a defence counsel in the 9/11 terrorism cases against inmates in the Guantánamo Bay prison camp, said: “John Yoo’s so-called reasoning has always been based on ‘What can the president get away with?’ rather than ‘What is the purpose and letter of the law

“The fact that John Yoo is employed and free to opine on legal matters is an example of the culture of impunity in the United States,” she said.”

Obama completely screwed that up. And it was obvious at the time. And it is partly why we have trump.

The Republicans will just keep pushing the limit of  their criminal culture until someone stops them, with jail time punishment. Shame, and reputation are irrelevant, as is collegiality.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

I think it was Sasha Baron Cohen

 

This is what struck me watching the first debate. Trump uses business jargon to avoid facts. Things like "i just had X in my office discussing that" or "X and I spoke on the phone about that" that might be a fine stall tactic in a board room but it doesn't work in politics.

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Does anybody really expect to see Trump abide by this Thursday’s debate rules? Even with a much needed mute button, Trump will bellow out whenever he feels the need, because he knows the other mic’s will pick it up. And that need resides within him to feed his ego and quell his anxiety. He knows he’s losing grip on the presidency and tonight’s debate, mute button and all, will not stop him if he feels he must break in to Biden’s answers. He will also use the ‘open’ mic time to bully his way past any objections and try to control the proceedings. He won’t be able to control himself.
At least, that’s the way I look at it.
 

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3 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

Does anybody really expect to see Trump abide by this Thursday’s debate rules? Even with a much needed mute button, Trump will bellow out whenever he feels the need, because he knows the other mic’s will pick it up. And that need resides within him to feed his ego and quell his anxiety. He knows he’s losing grip on the presidency and tonight’s debate, mute button and all, will not stop him if he feels he must break in to Biden’s answers. He will also use the ‘open’ mic time to bully his way past any objections and try to control the proceedings. He won’t be able to control himself.
At least, that’s the way I look at it.
 

Odds have to be pretty good that he will try and use Biden mic at some point.

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Aaaand this is the state of the once mighty USA National Security aparatus.

 

This is after 4 years of trump... a golf caddy and GM of a golf course has weight in deciding the future of the director of the FBI... chew on  that for a bit- that is ******* crazy.

Golf Caddy... GM of a golf course... involved with decision of FBI director.

 

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8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Aaaand this is the state of the once mighty USA National Security aparatus.

 

This is after 4 years of trump... a golf caddy and GM of a golf course has weight in deciding the future of the director of the FBI... chew on  that for a bit- that is ******* crazy.

Golf Caddy... GM of a golf course... involved with decision of FBI director.

 

Why surprised?

If one studies the list of Cabinet members, WH officials, and Department heads......unqualified grafters, hacks, and Trump flunkies are legion...

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Fox News once again supplying an outlet for speedy boy Donnie Jr. to unveil their “no nonsense” plan to cover the moderator and the mute button, because, you see, this is an Obama appointed moderator.
You can’t make this stuff up..


Speaking of speedy boy, he can babble much faster than I can even listen..

 

 

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15 minutes ago, do or die said:

Why surprised?

If one studies the list of Cabinet members, WH officials, and Department heads......unqualified grafters, hacks, and Trump flunkies are legion...

Bush appointee in charge of hurricane Katrina response. Heckofa job brownee

“Before joining FEMA, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association from 1989-2001. After numerous lawsuits were filed against the organization over disciplinary actions that Brown took against members violating the association's code of ethics,[11] Brown resigned and negotiated a buy-out of his contract.

 

Top to bottom, Republicans dont give a **** about qualifications.

kind of typical for conservatives everywhere.

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So, debate bingo:

3 cards, one Trump, one Biden, one moderator

Trump -

1. “You’ve never seen/heard“ or “no one’s ever done anything like this ever” - CHECK

2. Greatest economy ever - CHECK

3. refers to COVID as China flu, Wuhan virus or some other foreign label - CHECK (plague from China)

4. The phrase “sleepy Joe“ or “cognitive decline” (nope)

5. “Most corrupt“ politician or family in reference to Biden - almost CHECK (left out the “most”)

6. Hillary - CHECK

7. Obama (pick a random bonus square if he drops in the middle name Hussein somewhere) - CHECK (no bonus)

8. Antifa (nope)

9. Protect the suburbs (nope)

10. Radical left (I debated adding a reference to “the squad”, which he did do, but no to the specific phrase)

11. Rioters, looters, burning, and Democrat run cities all in the same single answer. - close, but no

12. Rigged election (no)

13. Hunter Biden e-mail scandal (take any bonus square if this comes up in his first 10 minutes of speaking time) - CHECK (in a roundabout way, no bonus)

14. Gets into it in any way with the moderator, either by arguing, unfair question complaint, cutting them off - CHECK, did talk over her when she wanted to move on

15. interrupts while Biden is speaking (even with the mute button feature, this is your “free space”), or mentions “mute button” and “unfair” in the same sentence - CHECK
 

Biden - 

1. “He doesn’t have a plan” (bonus square if he replaces the word “plan” with “clue”) - CHECK

2. “Soul of America”, “return to integrity” or “decency” (said “character of the nation”, last sentence had “decency” - CHECK

3. Mentions Hunter, even if to deflect from the issue (no)

4. Apologizes for/ acknowledges any past errors in his political career
- CHECK

5. Says something knee-jerk nasty about Trump after being goaded (not really, worst he did was “give me a break”)

6. Apologizes for knee-jerk nasty comment (no)

7. Drops the word “man” out of context (ex. says “look,man” as opposed to “this man here”) - looks like I should have gone with “c’mon”

8. Mentions Obama - CHECK

9. Mentions Kamala (no)

10. Answers a question WITHOUT gesturing with both of his hands at the same time - CHECK (but at least one hand all the time, don’t recall him answering without using his hands)

11. Trump’s national COVID failure (Free space) - CHECK

12. Health care (bonus square if he ties this and the Supreme Court issue together) - CHECK (but moderator tied it to Supreme Court, he did not mention them both together)

13. “Worst President” or “most corrupt” President (no, but did say “criminal”)

14. References the fact Trump himself had COVID in any way - CHECK

15. Makes a comment about the mute button in reference to Trump (no)
 

Moderator-

1. Live time fact checks any answer (will accept “That’s not true” as a fact check) - CHECK

2. Says”I’m sorry” in any context (no, was forceful when she interjected)

3. Asks Trump about his taxes or China bank account - CHECK

4. Asks Biden about stacking the Supreme Court (no)

5. Election interference - CHECK

6. Interrupts a candidate mid-answer to get them to answer the real question and not what the candidate wants to say - CHECK (In fact she warned Trump before he started to answer the “talk to black people”, and Trump still did not answer the question)

7. Interrupts a candidate mid-answer to remind the other candidate not to interrupt (Bonus square if they make mention of the agreed upon “debate rules” as part of their chiding) (no)

8. Asks a follow-up question to pin a candidate down on a wish-washy answer (this may be the one that prevents a blackout card) - CHECK

9. COVID (free space) - CHECK

10. “Let’s move on” (bonus square if either candidate returns back to the previous topic right after the new topic is brought up) - CHECK (no bonus)

11. Allows either candidate to ask their opponent a question on an unrelated topic instead of cutting them off - CHECK, but she did a good job many time’s of not allowing it, only let it happen on the Crime bill

12. Reminds us that there is an audience who will stay quiet throughout the proceedings - CHECK

13. Mentions the mute button - CHECK

14. Reminds either candidate a second time about the mute button as a warning or threat

15. Has to tell a candidate more than once during an answer that they are out of time - CHECK

Obviously missed a few options, any obvious ones I could replace with something better?

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He’s doing a lot of talking in this interview, but if you’re listening carefully, all you really hear is wah, wah, wah wah wah.

And then he walks out. I’ve never seen this behaviour before.

“Cowvard”

 

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1 minute ago, Mr Dee said:

He’s doing a lot of talking in this interview, but if you’re listening carefully, all you really hear is wah, wah, wah wah wah.

And then he walks out. I’ve never seen this behaviour before.

“Covard”

 

Brushing aside facts, with a wave of his tiny hands....

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