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Please Schumer save it. Weak. Even in your he’s guilty speech after Trump is acquitted you still can’t call out certain GOP senators and call them accomplices enablers etc. You only called them witnesses. Weak poser. 

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5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

 

Onto the criminal trials for Trump. His lawyers won't be able to pull the same **** they did here.

Which is kind of ****** up... you'd think that an impeachment would have a higher standard of... regulations than regular state criminal court... 

But, as we saw with co-conspirators being members of the jury and the jury openly coordinating with the defense... well what ever... I wash my hands of this.

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GOP is to stupid enough to know that Trump has split the party, he may of gotten 74m voters last time but when the party splits he wont get half of that if he actually tries to win as a third party

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2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

GOP is to stupid enough to know that Trump has split the party, he may of gotten 74m voters last time but when the party splits he wont get half of that if he actually tries to win as a third party

He has already killed that party. They just don't know it yet.

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The only rationale for the Democrats not calling a multitude of witnesses to Trump's seditious and criminal behaviours that I can think of relates to possible criminal indictments pending. If all of the evidence against Trump is displayed at the impeachment hearing, then Trump's defence could ask for all charges to be dismissed on the grounds that all of that evidence made public has poisoned any potential jurors that could be impaneled. 

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1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Oh man LGraham has gone full MAGA.

Blanche is a two faced liar that no one should ever pay attention too, he is a disgrace, Cruz may be the most hated Republican Senator in his own party, but Graham is very close behind, as for Trump why would they want him to lead the party, he lost the House, was defeated in the Presidential race, and lost the Senate, he is a loser, everything he has ever done has failed, Democrats should hope that he goes the 3rd party way cause that helps them in '22 and the next general election. 

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56 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Blanche is a two faced liar that no one should ever pay attention too, he is a disgrace, Cruz may be the most hated Republican Senator in his own party, but Graham is very close behind, as for Trump why would they want him to lead the party, he lost the House, was defeated in the Presidential race, and lost the Senate, he is a loser, everything he has ever done has failed, Democrats should hope that he goes the 3rd party way cause that helps them in '22 and the next general election. 

Sen. Lindsey Graham Brushes Off Trump's Election Lies: 'I'm Into Winning'

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday acknowledged that former President Donald Trump spread lies about the election and could have “done more” to stop the deadly insurrectionist attack on the U.S. Capitol last month. Nonetheless, the GOP senator said he will stick by Trump’s side because he likes “winning.”

Asked during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday” whether Trump bears any responsibility for the Capitol riot, Graham said “no in terms of the law.”

“He bears responsibility of pushing narratives about the election that I think are not sound and not true,” said Graham, who helped peddle Trump’s baseless claims of widespread election fraud and urged him not to concede the race days after President Joe Biden declared victory.

“I don’t think that he caused the riot,” Graham added. He conceded, however, that Trump’s behavior after the election was “over the top.”

Either way, Graham added, Republicans can’t win back the House in 2022 without Trump, who lost the popular vote to Biden by more than 7 million votes.

“To the Republican Party, if you want to win and stop the socialist agenda, we need to work with President Trump,” Graham told Fox News. “We can’t do it without him. ... I’m into winning. And if you want to get something off your chest, fine. But I’m into winning.”

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2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Sen. Lindsey Graham Brushes Off Trump's Election Lies: 'I'm Into Winning'

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday acknowledged that former President Donald Trump spread lies about the election and could have “done more” to stop the deadly insurrectionist attack on the U.S. Capitol last month. Nonetheless, the GOP senator said he will stick by Trump’s side because he likes “winning.”

Asked during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday” whether Trump bears any responsibility for the Capitol riot, Graham said “no in terms of the law.”

“He bears responsibility of pushing narratives about the election that I think are not sound and not true,” said Graham, who helped peddle Trump’s baseless claims of widespread election fraud and urged him not to concede the race days after President Joe Biden declared victory.

“I don’t think that he caused the riot,” Graham added. He conceded, however, that Trump’s behavior after the election was “over the top.”

Either way, Graham added, Republicans can’t win back the House in 2022 without Trump, who lost the popular vote to Biden by more than 7 million votes.

“To the Republican Party, if you want to win and stop the socialist agenda, we need to work with President Trump,” Graham told Fox News. “We can’t do it without him. ... I’m into winning. And if you want to get something off your chest, fine. But I’m into winning.”

This coming from a guy on January 6th said he was done, anything that comes out of his mouth should be taken with a grain of salt and the main street media should shun him and his insincerity.

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16 hours ago, bustamente said:

as for Trump why would they want him to lead the party, he lost the House, was defeated in the Presidential race, and lost the Senate, he is a loser, everything he has ever done has failed, Democrats should hope that he goes the 3rd party way cause that helps them in '22 and the next general election. 

No it doesn't. They are so dependent on that 30% of crazy voters they need the Trump base. 

Republicans rely on the unwavering support of anti-abortionists, evangelicals, white supremacists and ultra wealthy. Lose any group they will never win again. 

The voters suppression is going ramp up immensely going forward. It is their only hope.

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7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

No it doesn't. They are so dependent on that 30% of crazy voters they need the Trump base. 

Republicans rely on the unwavering support of anti-abortionists, evangelicals, white supremacists and ultra wealthy. Lose any group they will never win again. 

The voters suppression is going ramp up immensely going forward. It is their only hope.

As insane as it may seem, most Republicans believe that Trump is their best chance of regaining power in the houses and presidency. With  the only sane possible presidency candidate being Mitt Romney, and Trump will do his damnedest to make sure he never gets so much as a whiff of that, there is no real alternative to Trump. Besides, who else would appeal to the Jesus freaks and knuckle-draggers?

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26 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

That's just it. The crazy base are in the Trump cult so anyone who crosses him is a pariah. 

The republican party created a monster and now the monster is out of control.

Yup drag these 43+ GOP senators, Trump, his family and their enablers non-stop thru the courts (Criminal, Civil whatever) till they take their last breath on this earth.

No Mercy.

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39 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

That's just it. The crazy base are in the Trump cult so anyone who crosses him is a pariah. 

The republican party created a monster and now the monster is out of control.

Republicans formalize their embrace of American fascism with Trump's acquittal
   
The full malevolence of this new Republican Party nullification of consequences for political corruption—this time, in the form of a president sending a mob to block the certification of the U.S. election that would remove him from power, a president responding to the resulting violence by singling out to the mob his own specific enemies, then sitting back to watch the violence unfold on his television while taking no action to either contain the mob or protect the Congress, is difficult to even grasp.

The ultimate irony of the Republican sabotage, however, is that impeachment was unquestionably the most appropriate remedy for Trump's actions. It was an absolute necessity, and now the entire nation will suffer the consequences. Yet again.

Whether or not what Trump did was criminal is as yet undetermined, but even Sen. Mitch McConnell himself honed in on the central sin of Trump's actions. It was, at the very least, an unforgivable dereliction of duty. When faced with a clear and present need to defend the country, Trump did not. He betrayed his oath. He proved himself not just unfit for office, but a malevolent figure willing to use even violence against lawmakers as avenue for further political power.

Republicans formalize their embrace of American fascism with Trump's acquittal - Alternet.org

Lindsey Graham says Lara Trump is the "future of the Republican Party"

Lara Trump, the daughter-in-law of America's biggest loser, has just been proclaimed the winner of the impeachment trial that resulted in a 57-43 vote to convict husband Eric's dad for inciting insurrection against America.

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has somehow decided that Donald Trump's escape means Lara Trump is now certain to become senator of North Carolina. She's expected to seek the seat being vacated next year by Senator Richard Burr, who infuriated the Republican Party Saturday by voting to convict Trump. Burr had announced in 2016 he wouldn't seek another term in 2022.

If Graham has a reason to elevate Lara Trump other than her last name, he's keeping it to himself.

"The biggest winner I think of this whole impeachment trial is Lara Trump," Graham told Fox News' Chris Wallace. "If she runs, I will certainly be behind her because I think she represents the future of the Republican Party."

Lindsey Graham says Lara Trump is the "future of the Republican Party" | Salon.com

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Pennsylvania Republicans are lashing out at Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) after he became one of the Republicans who voted to convict former president Donald Trump for inciting an insurrection on the U.S. Capitol last month.

“We did not send him there to vote his conscience. We did not send him there to do the right thing or whatever he said he was doing,” a GOP chair in Washington County, Dave Ball, told local CBS affiliate KDKA in an interview Monday. “We sent him there to represent us.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pa-gop-lashes-out-at-toomey-conviction-vote-he-was-not-elected-to-do-the-right-thing

 

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2 hours ago, Mark F said:

Pennsylvania Republicans are lashing out at Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) after he became one of the Republicans who voted to convict former president Donald Trump for inciting an insurrection on the U.S. Capitol last month.

“We did not send him there to vote his conscience. We did not send him there to do the right thing or whatever he said he was doing,” a GOP chair in Washington County, Dave Ball, told local CBS affiliate KDKA in an interview Monday. “We sent him there to represent us.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pa-gop-lashes-out-at-toomey-conviction-vote-he-was-not-elected-to-do-the-right-thing

 

And isn't that just America in a nutshell? 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-giuliani-capitol-riot-suit-1.5915344

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A Democratic congressman accused Donald Trump in a federal lawsuit on Tuesday of inciting the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and of conspiring with his lawyer and extremist groups to try to prevent Congress from certifying the results of the presidential election he lost to Joe Biden.

The lawsuit filed on behalf of Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson by Joseph Sellers, a Washington lawyer, and the NAACP, is part of an expected wave of litigation over the Jan. 6 riot and is believed to be the first filed by a member of Congress. Thompson, the Democratic chair of the House's homeland security committee, could be joined by other members of Congress, lawyers said.

The case also names as defendants the former Republican president's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and groups including the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, extremist organizations that had members charged by the Justice Department with taking part in the siege. The suit seeks unspecified punitive and compensatory damages.

The suit, filed in federal court in Washington under a Reconstruction-era law known as the Ku Klux Klan Act, comes after Trump was acquitted on Feb. 13 in a Senate impeachment trial that centred on allegations that he incited the riot that saw five people in attendance die, including a Trump supporter who was fatally shot and a Capitol police officer who was killed in circumstances that are still unclear.

Trump's acquittal is likely to open the door to fresh legal scrutiny over his actions before and during the siege.

 

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