The Expansion Draft

[bb1]

11 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

So you're saying picking 13 rather than 24 is more valuable than Lowry or Perrault or Myers?

its not. They lost ZERO players.  And still have a first round pick. 

Ugh they were already protected we could of only lost Dano or Enstrom. We dropped down 11 spots for ethier one ....

Edited June 22, 2017 by bb1

[bb1]

1 minute ago, Atomic said:

With the NMC we would have had to trade with VGK to protect Myers which would have been an even steeper cost.

Any defenceman drafted 13th overall isn't going to be in the league for 2 years at least.  Like Morrissey.  Who's to say we still desperately need an LHD 2 years down the road?  Needing an LHD right now is irrelevant to the trade.

Who's signing here?  Who's making 5 mil+ and doesn't have WPG on their no trade list?  Really not that simple at all.

So your willing to drop 11 spots for Dano or Enstrom huh? 5 mill ain't gonna get us a decent free agent d-man man? Hey if  one those 2 players are worth it to u great trade then. They are obviously  over estimated by Chevy. If there is nothing else to this. Imo horrible overpay for 2 marginal players at best in this stage of their careers.

[Atomic]

3 minutes ago, bb1 said:

5 mill ain't gonna get us a decent free agent d-man man?

OK well tell me who?

https://capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2018/caphit/all/defense

[The Unknown Poster]

20 minutes ago, bb1 said:

Ugh they were already protected we could of only lost Dano or Enstrom. We dropped down 11 spots for ethier one ....

No. Toby had a NMC. He waived in exchange for a promise he'd be protected. So don't pretend like we could walk away from him. We couldn't. 

Jets HAD to make a deal to protect him. Hell a few hours ago we thought we were losing Dano AND a draft pick. 

We swapped picks. Other teams gave more.  We lost ZERO players. How hard is that to understand? 

They had to do something because they promised Toby. If they wouldn't make that promise then they either lose Myers or leave perreault or Lowry exposed. 

They dropped 11 spots in a weak draft to preserve all their players. 

Get it?

[bb1]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

No. Toby had a NMC. He waived in exchange for a promise he'd be protected. So don't pretend like we could walk away from him. We couldn't. 

Jets HAD to make a deal to protect him. Hell a few hours ago we thought we were losing Dano AND a draft pick. 

We swapped picks. Other teams gave more.  We lost ZERO players. How hard is that to understand? 

They had to do something because they promised Toby. If they wouldn't make that promise then they either lose Myers or leave perreault or Lowry exposed. 

They dropped 11 spots in a weak draft to preserve all their players. 

Get it?

If that was the case then you drop down to protect Lowry or Perreault if you can't get a NMC you don't get your ass kicked for Enstrom by promising him you will what protect him at all cost? What if this wasnt enough for Lvk then what? No way Chevy promises Enstrom he will protect him.

[bb1]

20 minutes ago, Atomic said:

OK well tell me who?

https://capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2018/caphit/all/defense

Ok Trevor Daley Chris Russel hell Oduya again, Polak...how many more you need? All could replace what Enstrom has given us the last 2 years .....

[bb1]

The reason Chevy asked Enstrom to waive his Nmc is because he was the best player to lose if the Jets had to lose a player... should of let him go. We basically blew a whole year last year to draft 24???

[kelownabomberfan]

3 hours ago, bustamente said:

Don't forget Thorburn is UFA he can still resign with the Jets 

Rory Kohlert 2.0

[Goalie]

22 minutes ago, bb1 said:

The reason Chevy asked Enstrom to waive his Nmc is because he was the best player to lose if the Jets had to lose a player... should of let him go. We basically blew a whole year last year to draft 24???

The guy we picked at 13 wouldnt help us this year. We lost nobody and will still get a d man at 24. 

[Goalie]

41 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

No. Toby had a NMC. He waived in exchange for a promise he'd be protected. So don't pretend like we could walk away from him. We couldn't. 

Jets HAD to make a deal to protect him. Hell a few hours ago we thought we were losing Dano AND a draft pick. 

We swapped picks. Other teams gave more.  We lost ZERO players. How hard is that to understand? 

They had to do something because they promised Toby. If they wouldn't make that promise then they either lose Myers or leave perreault or Lowry exposed. 

They dropped 11 spots in a weak draft to preserve all their players. 

Get it?

I agree but. 

 

 

[Goalie]

25 minutes ago, bb1 said:

The reason Chevy asked Enstrom to waive his Nmc is because he was the best player to lose if the Jets had to lose a player... should of let him go. We basically blew a whole year last year to draft 24???

No. He asked him to waive because he could then protect Perreault lowry armia and copp. If vegas wanted dano they would have just taken him. Theyd rather have a ufa and a pick tho. So we move back a few spots... Oh well. A decent player will still be there and like at pick 13 wont help for 2 or 3 years still. 

Maybe chevy aint done yet. Perhaps he moves pick 24 for something. Who knows. He did kind of say pick 13 was in play a while back. But... Oh well... We keep our entire roster and still have a first... Nyi and Columbus gave up 1sts and got nothing back. 

[SpeedFlex27]

We didn't lose anyone other than Thorburn & he won't be missed. I think that's a bonus. You see the faces of Crosby & Lemieux when the Marc Andre Fleury pick was announced. That said everything. Chevy has to get busy on July 1st. Signing a goaltender in free agency is paramount. He can't sit on the sidelines anymore being a disinterested participant as in previous years. This summer he has to actually do something.

Edited June 22, 2017 by SpeedFlex27

[The Unknown Poster]

42 minutes ago, bb1 said:

If that was the case then you drop down to protect Lowry or Perreault if you can't get a NMC you don't get your ass kicked for Enstrom by promising him you will what protect him at all cost? What if this wasnt enough for Lvk then what? No way Chevy promises Enstrom he will protect him.

If they went 4-4 you think they swap first rounders to protect perreault or Lowry?  No. It probably costs more.  Look what other teams gave up to protect players

other teams lost a player AND gave a pick if not more. Jets lost no players and swapped picks, didn't give one away. 

I know this seems complicated but it isn't. Chevy made a great deal to keep his entire roster intact AND keep a first round pick. He could only have done better or Vegas actually gave us something 

[Goalie]

Get Raanta or Grubauer and im happy. 

[Goalie]

Just now, The Unknown Poster said:

If they went 4-4 you think they swap first rounders to protect perreault or Lowry?  No. It probably costs more.  Look what other teams gave up to protect players

other teams lost a player AND gave a pick if not more. Jets lost no players and swapped picks, didn't give one away. 

I know this seems complicated but it isn't. Chevy made a great deal to keep his entire roster intact AND keep a first round pick. He could only have done better or Vegas actually gave us something 

No. They would probably have traded pick 13 straight up to protect them and lost a dano also. This way.. They still get a 1st rd pick. Its a smart move by chevy. We Lost NOBODY. 

[The Unknown Poster]

9 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I agree but. 

 

 

Bull.  Makes zero sense. Perhaps they call "well do everything we can to keep you bit there is no guarantee " a no deal. Clearly their intent was to protect everyone. And they did it. And kept a first round pick. Jets did better today then probably any of the teams. 

[Goalie]

I think we also got Carolina's 5th rd pick also didnt we? 

[The Unknown Poster]

Just now, Goalie said:

No. They would probably have traded pick 13 straight up to protect them and lost a dano also. This way.. They still get a 1st rd pick. Its a smart move by chevy. We Lost NOBODY. 

Exactly my point. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp. Did they think the jets should have come away from expansion draft WITH players? Lol

[The Unknown Poster]

Just now, Goalie said:

I think we also got Carolina's 5th rd pick also didnt we? 

I've seen speculation to that 

[The Unknown Poster]

Did any other team make it without losing a player?

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Bull.  Makes zero sense. Perhaps they call "well do everything we can to keep you bit there is no guarantee " a no deal. Clearly their intent was to protect everyone. And they did it. And kept a first round pick. Jets did better today then probably any of the teams. 

At the time was possibly 3 weeks ago... So at that time there probably wasnt but maybe a week ago they agreed or once the lists came out. 

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Exactly my point. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp. Did they think the jets should have come away from expansion draft WITH players? Lol

They wouldnt announce that today even if they did. Tomorrow tho. 

[Goalie]

1 hour ago, bb1 said:

Ugh they were already protected we could of only lost Dano or Enstrom. We dropped down 11 spots for ethier one ....

Why didnt they just take dano then cuz they could have... U know why they didnt? Cuz they didnt want him. U see the players they took? Some will be flipped tomorrow.. Already rumors of TVR to Carolina and Miller to Toronto. This team is going to suck.. Bad. 

They skipped on top 4 d like manson or vatanen and skipped on dumba because a 3rd line center and prospect from minny worked better. Ppl talk about tanking... Vegas is the new definition

[bustamente]

Think there will be a flurry of trades before the draft and during the draft, Chevy needs to be a player and get us a goalie to complement and push Helle, do not want to see Hutch back as a back up next season.

[Goalie]

47 minutes ago, bb1 said:

Ok Trevor Daley Chris Russel hell Oduya again, Polak...how many more you need? All could replace what Enstrom has given us the last 2 years .....

Lol. They arent even upgrades on chiarot and oduya got traded cuz he didnt want to be here so u can remove his over rated old ass from the equation.