Goalie Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) So since a few like to rip on Helle and think he's not good. . Let's play a fun little game of who am I. My first NHL season. I played 41 games and had a .920 save percentage My Second NHL season over 52 games .905 save %My 3rd NHL season over 41 games .912 save % Who AM I? For Comparison sake Helle played 26 games last year with a .918 save percentage This year ... 17 games and a .915 save percentage Edited November 28, 2016 by Goalie
Goalie Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 Nope. He's currently in the league
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Brandon said: That was some poor goaltending. Ugh just the worst uni;s #jetsv1
bigg jay Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, Goalie said: So since a few like to rip on Helle and think he's not good. . Let's play a fun little game of who am I. My first NHL season. I played 41 games and had a .920 save percentage My Second NHL season over 52 games .905 save %My 3rd NHL season over 41 games .912 save % Who AM I? For Comparison sake Helle played 26 games last year with a .918 save percentage This year ... 17 games and a .915 save percentage Goalie 1
bb1 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Hmmm I was gonna guess Quick but Price looks like the right dude...?
BomberBall Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Price was the first guy to pop into my head.
Rich Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 I'm a Hellebuyck fan and everything, but does this really prove Hellebuyck is going to be as good as Price? How many goalies had similar stats that turned into nothing? sweep the leg 1
IC Khari Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 I hope Helle doesn't get Price's proclivity for the "Flu"
Ducky Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Helle is the best we have and hasn't had a lot of help in front of him but other than 2 or 3 games he has played average at best. We need above average goaltending. I am patient enough to wait though. He is not gong to be an allstar goalie in his first year and how good would Price be in the Jets' net this year? Helle/Comrie is the future.
The Unknown Poster Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rich said: I'm a Hellebuyck fan and everything, but does this really prove Hellebuyck is going to be as good as Price? How many goalies had similar stats that turned into nothing? No but it doesnt mean he's a bust like some say. Its a great point about how talented goalies can take time to reach their potential. Goalie 1
Goalie Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: No but it doesnt mean he's a bust like some say. Its a great point about how talented goalies can take time to reach their potential. This is exactly the point. It takes time. Not even Carey Price was as good as he is now right away. And I'm not saying helle will be as good as price. I'm just saying it took price 3 years in the NHL before he became the goalie he is today. This is essentially helles first full year. Edited November 28, 2016 by Goalie JCon 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Goalie defends goalie. I GET THAT! Helle is the best we have. Maybe. I still think Pav would have won more games for us. He just is quicker and im not talking frantic flipping on your back like Hutchison quicker. And whats up with that. Hutch how did you turn into a POS?!? Still Helle is the best we have and to me thats the problem. I think he's been given the job without having taken it away from anyone. And that's my nickle. Edited November 28, 2016 by FrostyWinnipeg
Brandon Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 It's this guy... I swear! IC Khari 1
sweep the leg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Still Helle is the best we have and to me thats the problem. I think he's been given the job without having taken it away from anyone. I disagree. I think he outplayed Pavelec last season and was given the job this year as a result. Goalie, JCon and Judd 3
The Unknown Poster Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Goalie defends goalie. I GET THAT! Helle is the best we have. Maybe. I still think Pav would have won more games for us. He just is quicker and im not talking frantic flipping on your back like Hutchison quicker. And whats up with that. Hutch how did you turn into a POS?!? Still Helle is the best we have and to me thats the problem. I think he's been given the job without having taken it away from anyone. And that's my nickle. Im no expert but the reason Pavs appears quicker and makes highlight reel saves is that he is not a strong positional goalie. The knock on Helle is that he is very strong positionally but thats about it. I've heard people say if the puck doesnt hit him, then he misses it. Thats an exaggeration ofcourse. He lets his glove hand drop and isnt fast enough to make the crazy glove save.
mbrg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Still Helle is the best we have and to me thats the problem. I think he's been given the job without having taken it away from anyone. The why is more important than the what. The Jets obviously decided on this course of action before the season started. The incumbent got only one start in preseason and got sent to the minors despite getting a shut out in that game, while the two keepers who survived that cut didn't really inspire confidence in exhibition. So why? Management needed to know what they have. They knew what they thought they had. With only a year left on the incumbent's contract and an expansion draft also a year away, are the the plans the Jets have for the future likely to bear fruit? The Jets aren't winning the cup this year; being in a playoff position is a pleasant surprise as far as I'm concerned, and I'd expect a truly honest answer from management to indicate the same. So they use this year to take a long look at two of the guys who could be the future and see how they respond to different situations. To a full 82 game schedule. To losing streaks. To long road trips. To aholes on the internet who think letting in 5 goals in a game is proof that they'll never be an NHL goalie. Find out what they show and find out how much they grow. In short, the why in all of this is so that they can make as informed a decision as possible at the end of this season.
mbrg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 As for Price, a very big part of the reason he is the world's best goalie is he made a decision to stop relying just on his (incredible) natural ability and start eating clean, training hard, working hard.
Goalie Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 @FrostyWinnipeg Pavelec? Seriously. Guy is a backup in the AHL who has barely played and has an awful save percentage. The same guy who NOBODY picked up on waivers? The same guy who for 5.5 6 seasons was legit one of the worst goalies in the league in terms of numbers and save percentage. A guy that isn't even in the top 30 in the AHL numbers wise? Do you think Cory Schneider would help the Jets have more wins? Keep in mind him and Helle the exact same numbers this year (not exact but tiny tiny tiny difference) You crap on the goalie but... what Goalie is gonna win when the team in front of him scores 6 goals in total in 5 games? None of them.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Don't like Cory Schneider either lol. Never have.
kelownabomberfan Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 7 hours ago, Goalie said: So since a few like to rip on Helle and think he's not good. . Let's play a fun little game of who am I. My first NHL season. I played 41 games and had a .920 save percentage My Second NHL season over 52 games .905 save %My 3rd NHL season over 41 games .912 save % Who AM I? For Comparison sake Helle played 26 games last year with a .918 save percentage This year ... 17 games and a .915 save percentage Marco Belchior! Noeller 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Denis Lemieux? Edited November 29, 2016 by FrostyWinnipeg mbrg and rebusrankin 2
Noeller Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 OWNNNNZZZZZZAAA OWWWWWNZZZZZZZZZAAAAA
Ducky Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 Who am I? Games played starting with first full season followed by Goals Against Average. Arguably the best goalie of all time. 64, 2.68 GAA 54, 2.24 GAA 56, 2.26 GAA 62, 2.69 GAA 56, 2.14 GAA 52, 2.05 GAA 47, 2.30 GAA He played 7 full seasons and a small part of another and had a winning percentage of .600. He also won six Stanley cups, a Calder Trophy, a Conn Smythe Trophy and five Vezinas. Think about his awards considering his time in the game and his winning percentage. In my eyes the best goalie of all time.
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