Bombers (...and Jets, Moose, 'Eyes...) Eligible For Millions In Grant Funding

[17to85]

1 hour ago, tracker said:

Unlike say, Harper, who ran deficits 5 of the seven years he was in power. He didn't raise taxes, but borrowed to pass the debt down to the next government. It has been the wont of Tories to make token tax cuts after bewailing the state of affairs and then reward themselves and their cronies while slashing vital government services to people like veterans. Government is supposed to balance the needs of all parts of the society they have a mandate to govern and not favour one over another as a matter of policy.

One can argue that stepping into power during a global recession and having to pander to the opposition in minority government situations led to those deficits....

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

One can argue that stepping into power during a global recession and having to pander to the opposition in minority government situations led to those deficits....

Except that Harper didn't have a minority government for three of the five deficit years, and clung to power only by asking the pliable governor-general to do something never done before in Canadian history- prorogue Parliament when there was every reason to believe that Harper was going to lose a non-confidence motion.

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, tracker said:

Except that Harper didn't have a minority government for three of the five deficit years, and clung to power only by asking the pliable governor-general to do something never done before in Canadian history- prorogue Parliament when there was every reason to believe that Harper was going to lose a non-confidence motion.

The opposition in 2008 were planning on forming a coalition government to oust Harper in a coup & at the time the recession had just got started. Harper had a completely different budget but was forced by the Libs, NDP & Bloq to rip it up & go from an austerity budget to deficit spending.

[Tracker]

30 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The opposition in 2008 were planning on forming a coalition government to oust Harper in a coup & at the time the recession had just got started. Harper had a completely different budget but was forced by the Libs, NDP & Bloq to rip it up & go from an austerity budget to deficit spending.

A "Coup?" Like the Conservatives and Reform untied to oust the Liberals? If it was the sole pressure of the opposition, then why did not Harper  impose a fiscally conservative budget regimen each year when he had a clear majority?

[17to85]

1 hour ago, tracker said:

A "Coup?" Like the Conservatives and Reform untied to oust the Liberals? If it was the sole pressure of the opposition, then why did not Harper  impose a fiscally conservative budget regimen each year when he had a clear majority?

The ReformaCons put that party before the people in several elections so not comparable at all. If you're going 5o slag Harper at least use the time he mused about using the ndp and bloc in a liberal minority situation

[Noeller]

Let's take this to Gen Forum...

[Fraser]

On 24/12/2016 at 10:44 AM, 17to85 said:

One can argue that stepping into power during a global recession and having to pander to the opposition in minority government situations led to those deficits....

And he continued to run them  half a decade out of the recession  with  a majority  government because? 

[Eternal optimist]

 

On 12/23/2016 at 6:23 AM, gcn11 said:

In principle the subsidizing of pro sport with tax dollars is not to my liking. In practical, knowing the buffoons and bloated bureaucracy would just waste this money on something to prop up their own weight makes me not care.

When our governments at the different levels fix their epic mismanagement of funds then I will be more adverse to them not getting more.

The inherent problem with a bureaucracy is that it is a government that takes care of itself first. There will always be some level of mismanagement as a result of this. In addition, government entities face the issue of a lack of competition to keep them in check - a poorly managed private enterprise will just go belly up in the free market.

Personally, I just can't wait until the Trudeau government honeymoon is over and the Bank of Canada finally admits the need to raise interest rates to stay competitive with our neighbors to the south. That is when things will really get interesting in both the real estate market because the millennial generation have some growing pains realizing how much debt they are actually in and the joy of watching the provincial governments (including our own) struggle to find ways to service our mountains of debt at higher interest rates.

[17to85]

23 hours ago, Fraser said:

And he continued to run them  half a decade out of the recession  with  a majority  government because? 

because spending rarely is done for one year only. You fund a program it's going to run for several years generally. I mean he coulda jacked up the taxes to pay for everything and not run a deficit, is that what people want? 

Honestly deficit is such a buzz word. Spending during a recession is good.