2017 WJC

[Noeller]

It's a low end draft year...no real high end guy like McJesus or Crosby. Patrick is/was consensus #1 guy, but it's a low bar this year...

[Ducky]

14 hours ago, Goalie said:

I'm not convinced he does. I think it depends on who is drafting first overall. I think there's a real possibility Liljegren goes 1st overall. 

Patrick's ceiling they say is 2nd line center. Be nice to have but... there's a few more interesting prospects for sure. Nico Hishier ( spelling) from Halifax.  People say he's the Swiss ehlers but a center. Hes a guy I'd take... not 1st but 4th 5th 6th ish I would 

This coming from the guy that said the Jets might not pick Laine and might go with Puljujarvi instead...

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 hour ago, Ducky said:

This coming from the guy that said the Jets might not pick Laine and might go with Puljujarvi instead...

I know i said that - waaaaay wrong. Where is Poolparty? WJC?

[Noeller]

8 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I know i said that - waaaaay wrong. Where is Poolparty? WJC?

Still in Edmonton...

[kelownabomberfan]

I was just looking at the 1988 draft year and I saw that Chevy was drafted only six picks after Teemu.  Did anyone else know that?  I sure didn't...

Pick #	Player	Position	Nationality	NHL team	College/junior/club team
1	Mike Modano	Centre	United States	Minnesota North Stars	Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
2	Trevor Linden	Centre/Right Wing	Canada	Vancouver Canucks	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)
3	Curtis Leschyshyn	Defence	Canada	Quebec Nordiques	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)
4	Darrin Shannon	Left Wing	Canada	Pittsburgh Penguins	Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
5	Daniel Dore	Right Wing	Canada	Quebec Nordiques	Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
6	Scott Pearson	Left Wing	Canada	Toronto Maple Leafs	Kingston Canadians (OHL)
7	Martin Gelinas	Left Wing	Canada	Los Angeles Kings	Hull Olympiques (QMJHL)
8	Jeremy Roenick	Centre	United States	Chicago Blackhawks	Thayer Academy (USHS–MA)
9	Rod Brind'Amour	Centre/Right Wing	Canada	St. Louis Blues	Notre Dame Hounds (SJHL)
10	Teemu Selanne	Right Wing	Finland	Winnipeg Jets	Jokerit (Finland)
11	Chris Govedaris	Left Wing	Canada	Hartford Whalers	Toronto Marlboros (OHL)
12	Corey Foster	Defence	Canada	New Jersey Devils	Peterborough Petes (OHL)
13	Joel Savage	Right Wing	Canada	Buffalo Sabres	Victoria Cougars (WHL)
14	Claude Boivin	Left Wing	Canada	Philadelphia Flyers	Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
15	Reggie Savage	Right Wing	Canada	Washington Capitals	Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL)
16	Kevin Cheveldayoff	Defence	Canada	New York Islanders	Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)

[Goalie]

3 hours ago, Ducky said:

This coming from the guy that said the Jets might not pick Laine and might go with Puljujarvi instead...

I like how you act like what ever you suggest always happens and what everyone else suggests NEVER does...  considering you are trading players every other day and making line ups in your own little fantasy world, this is truly what is referred to as the POT calling the Kettle black. 

[kelownabomberfan]

3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I like how you act like what ever you suggest always happens and what everyone else suggests NEVER does...  considering you are trading players every other day and making line ups in your own little fantasy world, this is truly what is referred to as the POT calling the Kettle black. 

well whatever we decided back then (and there's nothing wrong with a little healthy debate) so far my Finnish friend seems to have been bang on.  Poolparty will probably start to really blossom next year and narrow the gap, but right now there was no question who the Jets should have drafted with that second-rounder.  So glad to see Laine in a Jets uniform and not in an ugly Oiler or Columbus uniform.

[Floyd]

50 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

I was just looking at the 1988 draft year and I saw that Chevy was drafted only six picks after Teemu.  Did anyone else know that?  I sure didn't...

Pick #	Player	Position	Nationality	NHL team	College/junior/club team
1	Mike Modano	Centre	United States	Minnesota North Stars	Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
2	Trevor Linden	Centre/Right Wing	Canada	Vancouver Canucks	Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL)
3	Curtis Leschyshyn	Defence	Canada	Quebec Nordiques	Saskatoon Blades (WHL)
4	Darrin Shannon	Left Wing	Canada	Pittsburgh Penguins	Windsor Spitfires (OHL)
5	Daniel Dore	Right Wing	Canada	Quebec Nordiques	Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
6	Scott Pearson	Left Wing	Canada	Toronto Maple Leafs	Kingston Canadians (OHL)
7	Martin Gelinas	Left Wing	Canada	Los Angeles Kings	Hull Olympiques (QMJHL)
8	Jeremy Roenick	Centre	United States	Chicago Blackhawks	Thayer Academy (USHS–MA)
9	Rod Brind'Amour	Centre/Right Wing	Canada	St. Louis Blues	Notre Dame Hounds (SJHL)
10	Teemu Selanne	Right Wing	Finland	Winnipeg Jets	Jokerit (Finland)
11	Chris Govedaris	Left Wing	Canada	Hartford Whalers	Toronto Marlboros (OHL)
12	Corey Foster	Defence	Canada	New Jersey Devils	Peterborough Petes (OHL)
13	Joel Savage	Right Wing	Canada	Buffalo Sabres	Victoria Cougars (WHL)
14	Claude Boivin	Left Wing	Canada	Philadelphia Flyers	Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL)
15	Reggie Savage	Right Wing	Canada	Washington Capitals	Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL)
16	Kevin Cheveldayoff	Defence	Canada	New York Islanders	Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)

Nordiques did not have good scouts.  Ouch.

[kelownabomberfan]

4 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Nordiques did not have good scouts.  Ouch.

yeah two bad picks there all right.

[The Unknown Poster]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Still in Edmonton...

Wasnt he sent back to Junior?

[Ducky]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

I like how you act like what ever you suggest always happens and what everyone else suggests NEVER does...  considering you are trading players every other day and making line ups in your own little fantasy world, this is truly what is referred to as the POT calling the Kettle black. 

A bit of a difference between trade proposals and you saying the Jets might not take Laine at 2nd or Patrick won't go 1st overall, no? A trade proposal isn't predicting anything.

Predictions? I was the one that said Connor would start with the big team and Thorbs shouldn't be dressed. Also said Petan deserved a chance to be called up just before they called him up. I have also been a BIG supporter of Armia and he was playing really well before his injury......those 4 things are what most people on here jumped on me for saying and all came true. Same as last year in late November when I said the Jets weren't going to make the playoffs.

I'll be the first to admit that i didn't think Tanev would start with the big team or they had the balls to send Pavs down although I said it is what should be done. I didn't think they would sit Stu for as many games as they have either.

 

Oh ya, I remember you trying to lecture me why Staf deserved tobe on the team this year too..hahahahhahash. Almost as laughable as Werenski taking the Calder over Laine if it were decided now...hahahahhash...

 

Puljujarvi wasn't in junior?

Edited December 20, 2016 by Ducky

[bigg jay]

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Wasnt he sent back to Junior?

Nope, still with the big club.  He's got 8 points in 23 games so far but has been a healthy scratch the last couple games.

[Floyd]

8 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Oh ya, I remember you trying to lecture me why Staf deserved tobe on the team this year too..hahahahhahash. Almost as laughable as Werenski taking the Calder over Laine if it were decided now...hahahahhash...

 

Puljujarvi wasn't in junior?

A 19 year old defenceman playing 22 minutes on the best team in the league - that WAS one of the worst last year - with 20+ pts and massive fancy stats...  he deserves the Calder.

[bigg jay]

10 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Puljujarvi wasn't in junior?

Correct.  As a non-CHL draft pick, Edmonton can send him to the AHL rather than to a junior team.

[Noeller]

They're being patient with PoolParty. No need to rush him. It's worked out really well with Dr Drai so far...

[sweep the leg]

56 minutes ago, Floyd said:

A 19 year old defenceman playing 22 minutes on the best team in the league - that WAS one of the worst last year - with 20+ pts and massive fancy stats...  he deserves the Calder.

Yeah, Werenski has been outstanding so far this season. I'd vote for Laine b/c I'm a homer, but they're both having great years.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

1 hour ago, Floyd said:

Nordiques did not have good scouts.  Ouch.

Leschyshyn had a pretty good career.

[Floyd]

6 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Leschyshyn had a pretty good career.

He had a long career.  Not a good career. 

[JCon]

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Edited December 21, 2016 by JCon

[Ducky]

 that is what I mean he was never in Junior.

[JCon]

1 minute ago, Ducky said:

 that is what I mean he was never in Junior.

I thought you were talking about CHL and not WJHC. I got confused.

[Goalie]

It wasn't until the juniors and really the Finnish championship series that Laine pulled ahead of Puljujarvi. At this point last year Puljujarvi was the number 2 prospect behind Matthews 

[Ducky]

Hirschier scored a 2 goals for Switzerland against Canada. I didn't see the game but a buddy told me he was dominating most every time he was on the ice.

Foley got 2 assists and Roslo got a goal for USA.

[Ducky]

Spacek got a goal today for the Czechs...

Roslo and Foley get zero points in the 6-1 USA win...

[BomberBall]

2 hours ago, Ducky said:

Spacek got a goal today for the Czechs...

Roslo and Foley get zero points in the 6-1 USA win...

It was a game winner for Spacek, too.  Not bad.

Carter Hart had a dreadful game for Canada tonight.   That score really flattered the Russians.